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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
November 14 2009 06:47 GMT
#601
That seemed pretty one-sided.

Don't choke, stork :o
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 06:48 GMT
#602
On November 14 2009 15:47 Dfgj wrote:
That seemed pretty one-sided.

Don't choke, stork :o

he usually won't choke until he gets his silver
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 14 2009 06:48 GMT
#603
On November 14 2009 15:47 Dfgj wrote:
That seemed pretty one-sided.

Don't choke, stork :o


Stork won't choke here. He got his eyes on the silver.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
November 14 2009 06:48 GMT
#604
On November 14 2009 15:47 Dfgj wrote:
That seemed pretty one-sided.

Don't fall asleep, stork :o

fixed that for you.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 14 2009 06:48 GMT
#605
That first sunken break by stork must have hurted Koll, he lost like 5 drones, 2 sunkens, quite a number of lings and then had to spend more minerals on lings --> slow hydras/lurker

That and he spent mineral on mutas to get picked on by archons ... hopefully he'll do better in the 2nd game ...
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Chanted
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway1001 Posts
November 14 2009 06:49 GMT
#606
Why is there no english commentary on this game? Awesome stream btw, love the music !
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 14 2009 06:50 GMT
#607
The digimon music cracks me up.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
November 14 2009 06:50 GMT
#608
On November 14 2009 15:49 Chanted wrote:
Why is there no english commentary on this game? Awesome stream btw, love the music !

English commentary is only for main stage stuff.
twitter: @terrancem
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 06:50 GMT
#609
game two starts stork at 12 and knoll at 6 on outsider
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
ruffe
Profile Joined November 2009
China40 Posts
November 14 2009 06:50 GMT
#610
i think the sunker place is not very good for koll to defense the first fight
quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#611
I'm sure this has already been asked but what's with all the conflicting reports of koll's age? Chinese commentators just said he was 14.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 06:51:34
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#612
stork likely 2 gate-ing

12 hatch from kolll
gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#613
On November 14 2009 15:45 OneOther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2009 15:43 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:41 OneOther wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:39 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:36 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:35 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:32 gk_ender wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:30 MuffinDude wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:26 Spt.Worked wrote:
On November 14 2009 15:22 MuffinDude wrote:
[quote]
You know having creativity doesn't equal having skills.


Creativity is a skill... and that's not what I am talking about. He said I changed my argument from 'who takes this game seriously to who remained playing' I am pointing out that I never said Mondi and the others stopped playing. I said they stopped playing competitively. Therefor he failed miserably and would probably be best fit to slit his wrist.

Even though you didn't write it in your first sentence of your first quote, you still wrote in your first quote that they are more skilled. But skill in here are things like harassing, army management, multitasking. Having good strategy means shit if you can't execute it well.

To further this point, the best strategey comes as a result of perfect mechanics, you can only perform great strategey with the help of mechanics to get you the units, positioning, and situation necessary, idc how great an idea you have, it wont work against a anyone ever when met with people with overwhelming better mechanics.



you guys are now talking about the Korean Pro's. Atleast I hope you are because if you think any top foreigner has 'perfect mechanics' that is really funny.

new foreigner's mechanics>old foreigner's mechanics



only reason new foreigners would beat the old school ones is because like what I said in first post. They just use what they see the Korean pros do. There is a Korean pro match on basically every night now for us to watch. Back in the day there was never any.

so getting builds from koreans and being mechanically exceptional is not skill? i would argue it's harder nowadays to stand out as a foreigner because of the easy access you mentioned.



the foreigners are NOT mechanically exceptional now... what makes you think they are? Koreans DOMINATE the iccup rankings and they are getting raped by the koreans at WCG as we speak.

uh, no shit they are not mechanically exceptional compared to koreans. i mean that foreigners have to be better mechanically better than other foreigners to be considered top and consistently win. that's skill according to me, and probably everyone else too.

Do you see what one other i saying here, like the entire idea? Can you read a whole paragraph and understand the meaning of all the sentences in it? Using analogies is a way to present an example of what we are saying, so we use comparison to help illustrate those ideas. Koreans are way better mechanically, if you read our posts weve said that like 500 times (that called a hyperbole, it is an exaggeration used for the purpose of satire), and we are saying that that is the reason they beat us, but on the flip side that logic still applies to the foreigners now compared to the foreigners of yester-year, there mechanics are better therefore they are better.
Taek Bang
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#614
Oh, stork is NOT doing forge fast expand.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#615
On November 14 2009 15:50 ruffe wrote:
i think the sunker place is not very good for koll to defense the first fight

it was just up too late and he didn't pull his drones and lings early enough.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
vishrut
Profile Joined April 2009
United States567 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#616
stork is gonna 2 gate into sair reaver
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#617
bisu vs jaedong to be on main stage
Can you feel the rush?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-14 06:52:13
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#618
Protoss has been doing this build a lot recently on Outsider.

Nvm, appears to be a different build.
Spt.Worked
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada48 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#619
--- Nuked ---
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 14 2009 06:51 GMT
#620
12 hatch for knoll, looking good for stork
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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