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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13076 Posts
November 09 2009 12:14 GMT
#1721
2/2 LB kinda surprized because i suck in LB. Mostly because of KHAN/OZ votes lol
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 09 2009 12:16 GMT
#1722
On November 09 2009 21:14 Jackal03 wrote:
the best game was the 4th by far (violet vs hyuk)


I liked Best vs Flash better. But Violet had the most epic moment!
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 12:17:16
November 09 2009 12:16 GMT
#1723
On November 09 2009 21:10 cabarkapa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:09 Pholon wrote:
Or maybe you don't send a Protoss on Moon Glaive


I'd risk Best/Bisu vs. Luxury rather than fantasy vs. Flash


Well are you the SKT coach? Do you think you are an expert on the both the map and each of the players' ability vs T?

Jesus some people are so unbelievably dumb

and honestly kt's chance of sending lux are pretty slim -_-
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
November 09 2009 12:16 GMT
#1724
On November 09 2009 21:14 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:10 cabarkapa wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:09 Pholon wrote:
Or maybe you don't send a Protoss on Moon Glaive


I'd risk Best/Bisu vs. Luxury rather than fantasy vs. Flash



come on. u have no idea how high fantasys tvt winning rate in team games is do u?
so pls stop blabbering.


Fantasy's Tvt is pretty good actually, except for Fvf.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
AlCabone
Profile Joined July 2009
Romania31 Posts
November 09 2009 12:16 GMT
#1725
On November 09 2009 21:11 GinNtoniC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2009 21:06 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:05 Sunyveil wrote:
Stupid ZvP imbalance, zerg too cheesy.
Moon Glaive so imba TvT
Violet only won because PvZ not fair lategame and he just turtled like a skilless noobie

SKT 5-0 imo.


ok dude...even i that im unhappy with skt losing have to ask u to save retarded comments like that to yourself =X

I already played the romanian card once in this thread - twice would just be lame! ^^

Quick, someone else play it!


WTF is the romanian card??
Life's short, don't be a bitch.
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
November 09 2009 12:18 GMT
#1726
Yes its funny how FBH can put up a really good TvT against Flash but fails against most scrubs.
Guy needs to get out of his slump
Thailand is my new obsession
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 12:21:18
November 09 2009 12:18 GMT
#1727
Fantasy had the right idea - Flash seems to always somehow come ahead in the map splitting in other TvTs so he tried really hard to prevent this. Seemed like Fantasy saw FBH hold the near expand and figured he could do it too, and wanted to use all his extra minerals on Vultures/Turrets for map control. Then he positioned himself for the 12 o'clock main.

But Flash was one step ahead (not often you get to say this against Fantasy or SKT1 in general), and saw this coming. So he just cashed in his big time gas advantage (it was really big especially with the delays from Vultures) with a ton of Tanks/Dropships. Fantasy was preparing a midgame split but didn't have time to reinforce anti-air and once he lost multiple Tanks, Flash ended up with something like twice as many Tanks and just went straight for the main which was undefended, given how Fantasy was playing for a late game split.

As good of a TvT midgame timing attack as you'll see in a game.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
November 09 2009 12:18 GMT
#1728
Violet had the pimpest play with his Maelstrom.

Though I would say Fantasy vs Hoejja was the most entertaining match with the amazing tech switch (MnM --> 3 ports/mass wraiths --> mass tanks --> nuke...).
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 09 2009 12:18 GMT
#1729
On November 09 2009 21:16 AlCabone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:11 GinNtoniC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2009 21:06 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:05 Sunyveil wrote:
Stupid ZvP imbalance, zerg too cheesy.
Moon Glaive so imba TvT
Violet only won because PvZ not fair lategame and he just turtled like a skilless noobie

SKT 5-0 imo.


ok dude...even i that im unhappy with skt losing have to ask u to save retarded comments like that to yourself =X

I already played the romanian card once in this thread - twice would just be lame! ^^

Quick, someone else play it!


WTF is the romanian card??

There is a running joke on TL that romanians can't understand sarcasm. Sunyveil was being sarcastic, so you shouldn't have responded so seriously.
RIP Aaliyah
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
November 09 2009 12:19 GMT
#1730
On November 09 2009 21:16 AlCabone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:11 GinNtoniC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2009 21:06 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:05 Sunyveil wrote:
Stupid ZvP imbalance, zerg too cheesy.
Moon Glaive so imba TvT
Violet only won because PvZ not fair lategame and he just turtled like a skilless noobie

SKT 5-0 imo.


ok dude...even i that im unhappy with skt losing have to ask u to save retarded comments like that to yourself =X

I already played the romanian card once in this thread - twice would just be lame! ^^

Quick, someone else play it!


WTF is the romanian card??



hahahah welcome to TL.

there was a time on teamliquid, where some romanians simply did not understand sarcasm, and so the term stuck
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
November 09 2009 12:19 GMT
#1731
On November 09 2009 21:16 AlCabone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:11 GinNtoniC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2009 21:06 UGC4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:05 Sunyveil wrote:
Stupid ZvP imbalance, zerg too cheesy.
Moon Glaive so imba TvT
Violet only won because PvZ not fair lategame and he just turtled like a skilless noobie

SKT 5-0 imo.


ok dude...even i that im unhappy with skt losing have to ask u to save retarded comments like that to yourself =X

I already played the romanian card once in this thread - twice would just be lame! ^^

Quick, someone else play it!


WTF is the romanian card??


JOSEPHCAKE

They are saying we don't get the subtle joke.
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
November 09 2009 12:20 GMT
#1732
On November 09 2009 21:16 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:14 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:10 cabarkapa wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:09 Pholon wrote:
Or maybe you don't send a Protoss on Moon Glaive


I'd risk Best/Bisu vs. Luxury rather than fantasy vs. Flash



come on. u have no idea how high fantasys tvt winning rate in team games is do u?
so pls stop blabbering.


Fantasy's Tvt is pretty good actually, except for Fvf.


it doesnt matter. do u think the SKT coach(es) dont know about flashs tvt? my god.. they will have had their reason to send out fantasy
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 09 2009 12:21 GMT
#1733
meh flash love those gas heavy units
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
November 09 2009 12:22 GMT
#1734
finaly Skt lost again 8D
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
November 09 2009 12:22 GMT
#1735
On November 09 2009 21:20 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:16 cascades wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:14 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:10 cabarkapa wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:09 Pholon wrote:
Or maybe you don't send a Protoss on Moon Glaive


I'd risk Best/Bisu vs. Luxury rather than fantasy vs. Flash



come on. u have no idea how high fantasys tvt winning rate in team games is do u?
so pls stop blabbering.


Fantasy's Tvt is pretty good actually, except for Fvf.


it doesnt matter. do u think the SKT coach(es) dont know about flashs tvt? my god.. they will have had their reason to send out fantasy


Moon Glaive must be really bad TvP. I guess I can believe it since it has a pretty short rush distance (especially to get to the high ground ramps outside a natural for a very, very hard to break contain), ample room to build Turrets in the middle, and expands along the way of the push.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7851 Posts
November 09 2009 12:22 GMT
#1736
Pretty sick games tonight. Bummer for SKT but they'll bounce back.

Hopefully Flash keeps working on that new TvP and he'll be unbeatable.
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
November 09 2009 12:22 GMT
#1737
On November 09 2009 21:18 darktreb wrote:
Fantasy had the right idea - Flash seems to always somehow come ahead in the map splitting in other TvTs so he tried really hard to prevent this. Seemed like Fantasy saw FBH hold the near expand and figured he could do it too, and wanted to use all his extra minerals on Vultures/Turrets for map control. Then he positioned himself for the 12 o'clock main.

But Flash was one step ahead (not often you get to say this against Fantasy or SKT1 in general), and saw this coming. So he just cashed in his big time gas advantage (it was really big especially with the delays from Vultures) with a ton of Tanks/Dropships. Fantasy was preparing a midgame split but didn't have time to reinforce anti-air and once he lost multiple Tanks, Flash ended up with something like twice as many Tanks and just went straight for the main which was undefended, given how Fantasy was playing for a late game split.

As good of a TvT midgame timing attack as you'll see in a game.

This.
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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
November 09 2009 12:23 GMT
#1738
That was a good TvT, but it shows how Flash has a TvT aura. Fanta knew that if he didn't do something special the game would turn out just like Flash v FBH so he tried to grab an uneven split of the map, he raced Flash to the other main. Flash grabbed a gas base as his 3rd and noticed how overextended Fantasy was. He cashed in his gas advantage for a drop right up the middle to finish off Fantasy.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
November 09 2009 12:24 GMT
#1739
On November 09 2009 21:22 arbiter_md wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:18 darktreb wrote:
Fantasy had the right idea - Flash seems to always somehow come ahead in the map splitting in other TvTs so he tried really hard to prevent this. Seemed like Fantasy saw FBH hold the near expand and figured he could do it too, and wanted to use all his extra minerals on Vultures/Turrets for map control. Then he positioned himself for the 12 o'clock main.

But Flash was one step ahead (not often you get to say this against Fantasy or SKT1 in general), and saw this coming. So he just cashed in his big time gas advantage (it was really big especially with the delays from Vultures) with a ton of Tanks/Dropships. Fantasy was preparing a midgame split but didn't have time to reinforce anti-air and once he lost multiple Tanks, Flash ended up with something like twice as many Tanks and just went straight for the main which was undefended, given how Fantasy was playing for a late game split.

As good of a TvT midgame timing attack as you'll see in a game.

This.


Oh wow a FAR superior post than mine.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8092 Posts
November 09 2009 12:26 GMT
#1740
On November 09 2009 21:08 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2009 21:07 SuperArc wrote:
On November 09 2009 21:06 Ikonn wrote:
Yeah, FBH is pretty much the only one who can go toe-to-toe with Flash in TvT


Watch Skyhigh vs Flash games, Skyhigh not slumping is as good as Flash.

No. Just no. No one has ever been on Flash's level in TvT. Seriously.


Skyhigh has been the only terran i have seen for about a year and a half that has actually out macroed flash, when playing at form he is on the same level as flash mabey better
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
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