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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
October 28 2009 04:40 GMT
#201
This is an awkward moment...
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 04:44:06
October 28 2009 04:40 GMT
#202
On October 28 2009 13:36 Jadyks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:35 ryuu_ wrote:
Wtf happened to the top zergs today? T_T + Show Spoiler +
Effort gets Hyuk'd and JD loses 2 ZvZs in a row?

+ Show Spoiler +
Hyuk is the top Zerg now. THE top zerg. Period. Except Calm. I'll give Calm the gold and Hyuk the silver.


+ Show Spoiler +
No he isn't. If he improves his ZvT to something very respectable, he'll be up there. No one can be considered "up the top" of the pack if they have a FBH sized weakness in one matchup. And he's ZvT record is worse than FBH's TvP which to say the least is bad.
amoeba
Profile Joined October 2004
United States283 Posts
October 28 2009 04:40 GMT
#203
I'm not sure why Jaedong keeps going for 12 hatch in zvzs. it boggles my mind.
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
October 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#204
On October 28 2009 13:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:38 Zozma wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
wow, jaedong is in a slump. losing to random zergs, his jvz is now a zvz now.

This was a BO loss, and Hyuk's actually good now. ?
Seems to me more like a "going 12 hatch on a two-player map" loss.

I guess we can just say that Jaedong didn't anticipate correctly what build 815 was going to go for.

12 Hatch is an advantage against everything except 9 pool first. It's good against even overgas, or 9gas pool. So...?

But jaedong used to override that law, no he doesn't.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
October 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#205
On October 28 2009 13:36 Jadyks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:35 ryuu_ wrote:
Wtf happened to the top zergs today? T_T + Show Spoiler +
Effort gets Hyuk'd and JD loses 2 ZvZs in a row?

+ Show Spoiler +
Hyuk is the top Zerg now. THE top zerg. Period. Except Calm. I'll give Calm the gold and Hyuk the silver.


+ Show Spoiler +
Ugh. The sickening SKT / Hyuk bandwagoning looks to continue, sadly. At least keep it in the SKT vs CJ thread where we can ignore it, eh?
Oh, my eSports
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
October 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#206
On October 28 2009 13:38 Zozma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
wow, jaedong is in a slump. losing to random zergs, his jvz is now a zvz now.

This was a BO loss, and Hyuk's actually good now. ?
Seems to me more like a "going 12 hatch on a two-player map" loss.

I guess we can just say that Jaedong didn't anticipate correctly what build 815 was going to go for.


EVERYTHING is a risk in ZvZ. There is no safe/standard play.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
October 28 2009 04:41 GMT
#207
Well, zergs have gotten better.
Jaedong
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 04:43:16
October 28 2009 04:42 GMT
#208
On October 28 2009 13:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:38 Zozma wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
wow, jaedong is in a slump. losing to random zergs, his jvz is now a zvz now.

This was a BO loss, and Hyuk's actually good now. ?
Seems to me more like a "going 12 hatch on a two-player map" loss.

I guess we can just say that Jaedong didn't anticipate correctly what build 815 was going to go for.

12 Hatch is an advantage against everything except 9 pool first. It's good against even overgas, or 9gas pool. So...?
12 hatch is almostalways a risk ZvZ. Doing it on a map where his lings are 100% coming to your base first is an even bigger risk, I'd say.

It's not like I'm saying Jaedong was stupid. He probably just thought 815 would go for a safer, more economic build, and was wrong about that.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 28 2009 04:43 GMT
#209
On October 28 2009 13:37 lux[chavii] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:32 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:28 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:25 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:24 Marine50 wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:21 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:19 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:16 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:11 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:08 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
[quote]

Indeed it does

Yeah, the op is saying Orange Tv is streaming. I didn't know the op was a producer on our channel.


Well usually the OP confirms with who is streaming before posting. Am I wrong to assume this?

Your sarcasm is unwarranted.

He doesn't. He just posted that. Never pmed me or anything.


How should we know. Don't go crazy about random stuff and we're all good

He does it a lot -_-

He gets blamed for not streaming while some random people post that he will stream.Wouldn't you?


No I wouldn't. In fact I couldn't care less.

You couldn't care less but yet you reply to him defending himself?
Get lost


It's because he makes a drama out of simple things. Where is the problem in just saying the OP is misinformed and he is not streaming, instead of using inappropriate sarcasm and making people, who can't know any better, make look bad?
Also how is my carelessness exactly related to his defense? As far as i can tell no one attacked or blame him in the first place and even if so, it's the internet, stop taking yourself so very seriously.
But maybe thats just me.

Its not really my problem so ill stop arguing here, you just gotta know that stream is avalivable when the actual owner posts it instead of random people.If others blame the owner for not streaming and he comes to defend himself, with sarcasm or without, its none of your buissness.
Its internet, but you gotta respect people who do so much for the commiunity, like TOP.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-28 04:45:22
October 28 2009 04:43 GMT
#210
12 hatch is less of a risk on this map, the distances make it a normal build for HBR.

On October 28 2009 13:43 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:37 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:32 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:28 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:25 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:24 Marine50 wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:21 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:19 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:16 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:11 T.O.P. wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, the op is saying Orange Tv is streaming. I didn't know the op was a producer on our channel.


Well usually the OP confirms with who is streaming before posting. Am I wrong to assume this?

Your sarcasm is unwarranted.

He doesn't. He just posted that. Never pmed me or anything.


How should we know. Don't go crazy about random stuff and we're all good

He does it a lot -_-

He gets blamed for not streaming while some random people post that he will stream.Wouldn't you?


No I wouldn't. In fact I couldn't care less.

You couldn't care less but yet you reply to him defending himself?
Get lost


It's because he makes a drama out of simple things. Where is the problem in just saying the OP is misinformed and he is not streaming, instead of using inappropriate sarcasm and making people, who can't know any better, make look bad?
Also how is my carelessness exactly related to his defense? As far as i can tell no one attacked or blame him in the first place and even if so, it's the internet, stop taking yourself so very seriously.
But maybe thats just me.

Its not really my problem so ill stop arguing here, you just gotta know that stream is avalivable when the actual owner posts it instead of random people.If others blame the owner for not streaming and he comes to defend himself, with sarcasm or without, its none of your buissness.
Its internet, but you gotta respect people who do so much for the commiunity, like TOP.

Well, the thing is, the OP just copy pasted that portion from another thread, and because the stream posted in the OP is usually posted by the streamers, I don't see why he was wrong in asking why it didn't work.
Jaedong
Brewdish
Profile Joined July 2007
United States17 Posts
October 28 2009 04:44 GMT
#211
815 looks so satisfied.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
October 28 2009 04:44 GMT
#212
On October 28 2009 13:41 NeoOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:38 Zozma wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:33 MuffinDude wrote:
wow, jaedong is in a slump. losing to random zergs, his jvz is now a zvz now.

This was a BO loss, and Hyuk's actually good now. ?
Seems to me more like a "going 12 hatch on a two-player map" loss.

I guess we can just say that Jaedong didn't anticipate correctly what build 815 was going to go for.


EVERYTHING is a risk in ZvZ. There is no safe/standard play.
I can't see how this is an argument for using 12 hatch against an inferior opponent on a two-player map.
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
October 28 2009 04:44 GMT
#213
godamnit
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
October 28 2009 04:46 GMT
#214
On October 28 2009 13:43 Avidkeystamper wrote:
12 hatch is less of a risk on this map, the distances make it a normal build for HBR.
Is that so? If it is, I guess I can see where you're coming from. Still, I can't see any advantage for Jaedong in doing something that can be hard-countered like that.
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
October 28 2009 04:46 GMT
#215
I think other Zergs have improved to the point where JD would find it very difficult beating, say, 12 hatch with a 12 pool.
Brewdish
Profile Joined July 2007
United States17 Posts
October 28 2009 04:46 GMT
#216
here's to som more epic tvt from flash
lux[chavii]
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Germany115 Posts
October 28 2009 04:47 GMT
#217
On October 28 2009 13:43 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2009 13:37 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:32 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:28 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:25 Itachii wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:24 Marine50 wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:21 lux[chavii] wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:19 T.O.P. wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:16 Hopkingreenfrog wrote:
On October 28 2009 13:11 T.O.P. wrote:
[quote]
Yeah, the op is saying Orange Tv is streaming. I didn't know the op was a producer on our channel.


Well usually the OP confirms with who is streaming before posting. Am I wrong to assume this?

Your sarcasm is unwarranted.

He doesn't. He just posted that. Never pmed me or anything.


How should we know. Don't go crazy about random stuff and we're all good

He does it a lot -_-

He gets blamed for not streaming while some random people post that he will stream.Wouldn't you?


No I wouldn't. In fact I couldn't care less.

You couldn't care less but yet you reply to him defending himself?
Get lost


It's because he makes a drama out of simple things. Where is the problem in just saying the OP is misinformed and he is not streaming, instead of using inappropriate sarcasm and making people, who can't know any better, make look bad?
Also how is my carelessness exactly related to his defense? As far as i can tell no one attacked or blame him in the first place and even if so, it's the internet, stop taking yourself so very seriously.
But maybe thats just me.

Its not really my problem so ill stop arguing here, you just gotta know that stream is avalivable when the actual owner posts it instead of random people.If others blame the owner for not streaming and he comes to defend himself, with sarcasm or without, its none of your buissness.
Its internet, but you gotta respect people who do so much for the commiunity, like TOP.


I still can't see where he was blamed for not streaming, also thanks for telling me what is my business, however I am able to decide that on my own, thanks anyway.

He can be the best poster in the world, if he treats others like shit (watch out, exaggeration!) I will never respect him.
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
October 28 2009 04:48 GMT
#218
getting a weird vibe flash will lose
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 28 2009 04:48 GMT
#219
Flash, stomp this noob!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
October 28 2009 04:49 GMT
#220
On October 28 2009 13:48 thestool91 wrote:
getting a weird vibe flash will lose
If Jaedong loses ZvZ, Flash can lose TvT and it might correct the balance.
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