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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs Woongjin Stars - Page 5

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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17709 Posts
October 08 2009 19:42 GMT
#81
Bisu
Hyuk
free
TheZerg
G_G
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
aG.Admirai
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada55 Posts
October 08 2009 21:21 GMT
#82
Like many ppl predicted,
Bisu < Fighting Spirit > PianO
Hyuk < Tornado > Kwanro
fantasy < Match Point > free[gm]
Thezerg < Moon Glaive > ZerO
Bisu < Heartbreak Ridge > Kwanro
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 08 2009 22:36 GMT
#83
amazing op!

SKT GET THEM

free vs fantasy should be fun.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2112 Posts
October 08 2009 22:48 GMT
#84
Fuck yeah! It's been way too long.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
October 08 2009 23:03 GMT
#85
There's no way Woonjin throws Kwanro vs Bisu in an Ace match, ZerO has been beating the hell out of Bisu for a while now and Fantasy is looking real shaky vs. zerg. Almost sure to see ZerO sent out here so SKT might send Hyuk.
the last wcs commissioner
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
October 09 2009 00:21 GMT
#86
On October 09 2009 04:34 mog87 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2009 22:43 fanatacist wrote:
On October 08 2009 15:57 mog87 wrote:
On October 08 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
On October 08 2009 14:52 mog87 wrote:
Ill pick woonjin and I def think you have to pick zero over bisu if it goes to ace on HBR..REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME?!???

Consistency > one-game fiasco imo.

On October 08 2009 14:53 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On October 08 2009 14:52 fanatacist wrote:
On October 08 2009 14:40 Avidkeystamper wrote:
What a way to kick off the season! Also, is Best literally B-teamed? If so, source?
Also, just unbanned in time for the Starcraft to start.

No but his absence here is one indicator, although like someone else has mentioned it could also be the necessity of mirror Z's on certain maps. Another indicator is his loss in MSL offlines. A third is his presence with the B-teamers in the map tests. I have no actual source, but if he isn't there yet I predict he soon will be (unless of course he cleans his act up, but that'd be redundant to say).


Doesn't Best always lose in MSL offlines?

If that's true then that's pretty pathetic, if his competition was as light as it was this time around.


Uh Bisu also consistently loses vs Zero, hes like 1-4....but thanks for helping my point?

Free beating fantasy isnt much of an upset either, Im not sure I remember the map stats for match point, so depending on the balance i suppose it could be considered a minor upset.

Uh Bisu is also the best Protoss in the world and Zero is the second... wait no, third.... wait no, fourth... maybe... best Zerg. Considering their careers, relative win rates, etc. Bisu is a more consistent player. Trying to bend my words to your argument, nice try.

Fantasy has the best TvP in the world. Free is the second... wait no, third... wait no, fourth... maybe... best at PvT. Considering their careers, relative win rates, etc. Fantasy is a more consistent player.


How is that relevant to picking Bisu over Zero, when RECENTLY hes been dominated by zero, and was absolutely torn apart on the same map. Obviously Bisu can win, but Zero is the favorite and you say Bisu is the best protoss in the world, but thats meaningless because right now zero is one of the best ZvPers.

Fantasy best tvp in the world meh, Ive stuck by Flash being the best at every MU, and free being fourth or third best at TvP is nice, but his PvT is more than good enough to beat fantasy, regardless of Stork and Jangbi being better historic PvTers. That being said my point was Free beating Fantasy isnt an upset at all. Fantasy would only be a slight favorite before considering the map balance.

Read my later posts please.
Peace~
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 09 2009 02:05 GMT
#87
(P)Bisu > (T)PianO
(Z)Hyuk > (Z)Kwanro
(T)fantasy > (P)free[gm]

3:0 gogogo! (although this game has no effect on my FPL team)
[TLMS] REBOOT
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 09 2009 02:36 GMT
#88
Just in time too!! I finally got OGN back on TV, WOOT!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 09 2009 02:52 GMT
#89
wow that sucks. hyuk and kwanro are both on my anti-team >:0
:)
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
October 09 2009 03:33 GMT
#90
Very nice OP format =]
Entusman #12
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
October 09 2009 03:37 GMT
#91
Great OP…so excited for the return of Proleague!

T1 fighting!!
✌
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 09 2009 03:56 GMT
#92
fuck yeah SKT1
POGGERS
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
October 09 2009 05:14 GMT
#93
I doubt Best is a b-teamer, he's one of SKT's top 4 (seriously, Thezerg? they kid no one). Since the new maps are slanted Z>T>P or T>Z>P according to evaluations, and that means all teams are playing with double Zerg except two which are playing double terran, and Best's vZ is notoriously bad... and ZerO's vP is great while his vZ is mediocre at best.

Really psyched out about fantasy vs. free, as fantasy's play is nearly as sexy as free's late-game vT.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
October 09 2009 08:19 GMT
#94
(P)Bisu < Fighting Spirit > (T)PianO
(Z)Hyuk < Tornado > (Z)Kwanro
(T)fantasy < Match Point > (P)free[gm]
(Z)Thezerg < Moon Glaive > (Z)ZerO

Why you ask?
Easy:
* Bisu is Bisu, no Question there.
* Hey Kwanro was in MSL Finals ;-) (honestly its vs SKT Failzergs)
* free should watch the stork replays. free will "stork" fantasy!
* SKT Failzerg
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 09 2009 10:54 GMT
#95
(P)Bisu < Fighting Spirit > (T)PianO
(Z)Hyuk < Tornado > (Z)Kwanro
(T)fantasy < Match Point > (P)free[gm]
(Z)Thezerg < Moon Glaive > (Z)ZerO

Game 1: Bisu has this. I remember when PianO was considered to be the one that would support free to take Stars to the next level but he is just a mediocre terran.

Game 2: I always thought one of Hyuk's biggest problems was self-confidence, and I believe he has gained a lot of it lately. Adding that to the possible unstability that Kwanro's recent transfer to a new team and environment could cause, I'd say this is almost a coin toss with Hyuk having a slight edge.

Game 3: free didn't seemed to sturggle a little in the final stretches of last season, and I don't think merely battle skills will be enough to take Fantasy down.

(Game 4): If Kwanro happens to defeat Hyuk, it will go to the ace game. Both players struggled their ZvZ last season, but ZerO struggled against oponents like JD, Calm and a on-fire Kwanro, while TheZerg got beat down by not so great zergs.

(Ace): I think Stars will send out free (they could send any of their two star zergs, but both Fantasy and Bisu are very strong against z), and if SKT1 realizes that, Bisu should be the logical option. In that case, I think Bisu will take home their first proleague win this season.
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
October 09 2009 12:49 GMT
#96
On October 09 2009 19:54 RamenStyle wrote:
(P)Bisu < Fighting Spirit > (T)PianO
(Z)Hyuk < Tornado > (Z)Kwanro
(T)fantasy < Match Point > (P)free[gm]
(Z)Thezerg < Moon Glaive > (Z)ZerO

Game 1: Bisu has this. I remember when PianO was considered to be the one that would support free to take Stars to the next level but he is just a mediocre terran.

Game 2: I always thought one of Hyuk's biggest problems was self-confidence, and I believe he has gained a lot of it lately. Adding that to the possible unstability that Kwanro's recent transfer to a new team and environment could cause, I'd say this is almost a coin toss with Hyuk having a slight edge.

Game 3: free didn't seemed to sturggle a little in the final stretches of last season, and I don't think merely battle skills will be enough to take Fantasy down.

(Game 4): If Kwanro happens to defeat Hyuk, it will go to the ace game. Both players struggled their ZvZ last season, but ZerO struggled against oponents like JD, Calm and a on-fire Kwanro, while TheZerg got beat down by not so great zergs.

(Ace): I think Stars will send out free (they could send any of their two star zergs, but both Fantasy and Bisu are very strong against z), and if SKT1 realizes that, Bisu should be the logical option. In that case, I think Bisu will take home their first proleague win this season.


hshjshjajshahjas Hes 1-4 vs ZERO!!!!! I also dont know how you give hyuk a slight edge over kwanro even with a transfer. I can respect your opinion on free vs fantasy, but personally I think its a toss up,but hard to say as its a new map.

Ace match you gotta favor Zero over Bisu, Free is also a decent choice but Free often loses to Bisu so not really. I mean if you arent a huge t1 fan you have to put Zero over Bisu on HBR, or you could be a funny one like an earlier poster and predict kwanro goes out for Bisu, thus justifying bisu winning, but why send kwanro? Zero vs Fantasy is also probably, but Zero's ZvT has been on point and zero is very good at defending early rushes from terran as well dealing with mech, so I think hed take fantasy. A double mindgame Free vs Fantasy is also possible for ACE. The logic being that skt1 thinks woonjin will send zero, and thus send fantasy, and woonjin may anticipate and send free(maybe even guemchi?heh), which would be good considering the map, as long as free doesnt 12 nex and get depot blocked and ravaged like vs reality in osl prelim finals.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
October 09 2009 13:43 GMT
#97
Bisu < Fighting Spirit > PianO
Hyuk < Tornado > Kwanro
fantasy < Match Point > free[gm]
Thezerg < Moon Glaive > ZerO
Rape incoming
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
October 09 2009 14:17 GMT
#98
On October 09 2009 22:43 n.DieJokes wrote:
Bisu < Fighting Spirit > PianO
Hyuk < Tornado > Kwanro
fantasy < Match Point > free[gm]
Thezerg < Moon Glaive > ZerO
Rape incoming

Losing 4-0 in a BO5 is a pretty bad rape yes.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 09 2009 15:31 GMT
#99
If it goes to an ace match, I would be very surprised if Woongjin doesn't send out Zero.
Zero fighting.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 09 2009 15:52 GMT
#100
btw did i mention how cute the OP is?
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