savior vs leta, feb 2nd 2009

though he came way earlier then you seem to recommend, he seemed to fAvOr your strategy to a tee. mostly hydra, mix with ling+mut- and just walked on him.

couldnt help but think of this as i watched it, and savior scouted mech.

:D

skindzer

Chile5114 Posts

February 09 2009 05:19 GMT

#164

I tend to get overrun when they open with vults then 4-6 wraiths then do a push with marines gols tanks T_T. Its like wtf stick to something!

Geo.Rion

7377 Posts

February 09 2009 15:11 GMT

#165

sir, this thread is extraordinary useful, i think i already claimed this. But it's just awesome how this 9th drone scout 3 hatch fast hydra works. I was hit by many variations including 1 vulture into mnm drop, and crushed them, and some of those metal builds were done by superior players, and i usually lose to Terrans who are worse or just as good as me, if they go bionic

Bloodwolf

Costa Rica32 Posts

February 09 2009 19:44 GMT

#166

That was very helpful indeed sir. Thanks a lot! Also thanks motbob for the transcription and youtube finds, I will review that when I get a chance.

And yes, you do sound like Dr. Cox lol.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

February 10 2009 00:00 GMT

#167

Here is a ZvT rep from yesterday. Guy FE'd and built this bunker/depot defense at his nat. I didn't even expect him to go Mech, and was on my way to defiler/ultra. Then I realized that it was mech and I had a group of lurkers and swarm and started on my hydra upgrades.

Just shows you that lurkers can still be useful vs mech. And tech switching is possible if you use them to delay long enough.

http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=7589&name=SpoR vs gosucomputer.rep

PS- Nydus Flank FTW!

wurm

Philippines2296 Posts

March 13 2009 09:13 GMT

#168

Is there any way I can download this? I want to listen to this on the go.

neliel

Sweden63 Posts

March 13 2009 09:26 GMT

#169

http://rapidshare.com/files/208661866/StoppingMech.mp3.html

Just uploaded it. Tell me if you want his other audio aswell.

Harem

United States11393 Posts

March 24 2009 22:03 GMT

#170

Hey Day, could I get your thoughts on JD's approach in the game vs Forgg? :o

Day[9]

United States7366 Posts

March 24 2009 22:15 GMT

#171

On March 13 2009 18:13 wurm wrote:
Is there any way I can download this? I want to listen to this on the go.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=89581

Crunchums

United States11144 Posts

June 11 2016 21:06 GMT

#172

i feel like every single ZvT FPVOD I watch where the terran mech switches, the zerg always goes for ultras and loses horribly. e.g.
+ Show Spoiler +

i'm always like "why don't they follow day[9]'s advice and go hydras??"
why zergs, why?

B-royal

Belgium1330 Posts

June 11 2016 21:38 GMT

#173

From my experience, because past a certain supply/upgrades of the terran, hydras get demolished before they even get in range.

Ty2

United States1434 Posts

June 11 2016 22:16 GMT

#174

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VHbb

692 Posts

June 12 2016 03:33 GMT

#175

Is this the first inspiration from which we got the Day9 dailies?

Bakuryu

Germany1065 Posts

June 12 2016 05:44 GMT

#176

On June 12 2016 06:06 Crunchums wrote:
i feel like every single ZvT FPVOD I watch where the terran mech switches, the zerg always goes for ultras and loses horribly. e.g.
+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23J06e00edo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zuemGRHML8

i'm always like "why don't they follow day[9]'s advice and go hydras??"
why zergs, why?

since this is a simple question, i give you simple answers:

1. mech =/= late mech
2. zerg players are bad, but zero surprised me this game by playing slightly smarter than usual....

Espers

United Kingdom606 Posts

June 12 2016 18:16 GMT

#177

The advice isn't so relevant today, it was back when mech first builds were in vogue (Fantasy build, vulture expand, 2 fac speed vults etc). Versus that early Hydras into mass Hydra/Muta is king for defending the early harassment, crushing the early pushes and causing them trouble as they expand, but versus the late game mech switch Hydras are terrible.

Ty2

United States1434 Posts

June 12 2016 18:59 GMT

#178

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AsianEcksDragon

United States1036 Posts

June 13 2016 06:10 GMT

#179

Ultralisk are probably the least cost effective unit you can make vs. mech. Tanks and Spider Mines rips through them and even Goliaths deal respectable damage.

I think Air Carapace Upgrade is a must. Not only must your Mutas be able to tank Goliaths, you'll have to be doing a lot of doom drops or drops on top of Siege Tanks.

Burrow is also underrated. You can save a lot of drones whenever the mech army steamrolls through your bases. Rather than butt heads with the army, I like to just give up the less important bases, doom drop to take out the Terran's production, and then throw endless waves of units against the army.

c3rberUs

Japan11721 Posts

June 13 2016 11:49 GMT

#180

I think day9 was talking about countering mech openings effectively as bakuryu said. However, with how good terrans are at using bio before transitioning to mech, it will be suicidal to go mass hydras while bio is still roaming the field.