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The Essentials - Video Tutorials

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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 15:24:30
August 23 2008 04:04 GMT
#1
I've always wondered why with the advent of video sites like youtube, there has been a lack of video tutorials for starcraft. I've set about to rectify this problem.

The Starcraft community is a very elitest community that is very difficult to break into for new players. As it has been around for a long time, there are many nuances that everyone is expected to know. Therefore, there are no resources on how to learn these techniques and often they are difficult to find out by ones' own accord.

The Essentials aims at showing off these simple yet vital techniques and their application in real game situations. Every video that I will upload will show off something that you can immediately use to improve your game.


Latest Video: Stacking Air Units




Previous Issues

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 01: Moving Shot] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 02: Hold Lurker] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 03: Zeal Bombing] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 04: Vulture Patrol Micro] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 05: Using Splash Against Cloaked…] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 06: Vessel Eraser] +

+ Show Spoiler [Issue 07: Stacking Air Units] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfqQYJzq7o0


I'll try to keep on releasing these videos on a somewhat consistent basis. I'll update the OP whenever a new video is ready and uploaded. My youtube profile page can be found at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ArtofStarcraft

Any comments, suggestions and criticisms are appreciated.
AUSSIESCUM
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 23 2008 04:29 GMT
#2
wow ive watched some of these, pretty good!
might want to add on the lurker one if you have spare time to point out holding with ovies or anything works as well, not just attacking things under fog of war
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
August 23 2008 04:29 GMT
#3
ooh, these are cool. definitely liked the pro clips, keep up the good work
I feel like pwning noobs
doghunter
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States23 Posts
August 23 2008 04:45 GMT
#4
Helpful videos, thanks!
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 23 2008 04:50 GMT
#5
you can do a wraith/scout micro vs scourges video

I don't have much experience with muta micro so I'm not sure if they are done the same way
blabberrrrr
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
August 23 2008 04:51 GMT
#6
Wow I really like these videos. Thanks so much guys.
Super serious.
sillyboy_tomato
Profile Joined July 2008
United States157 Posts
August 23 2008 04:53 GMT
#7
a video about the "magic box" will be so helpful
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 23 2008 05:01 GMT
#8
Ive seen the first two on youtube and know the othes. Also nada has a better vid for patrol move. Gj posting here, more people will see it.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
August 23 2008 05:52 GMT
#9
Awesome work! Keep it up!
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
August 23 2008 05:55 GMT
#10
That's a nice set of videos you have going there.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 06:19:13
August 23 2008 06:12 GMT
#11
Very nice project. Good job

I think a simple one you can show is the moving drop. You used it in the zeal bombing video but didn't explain it, and something like that deserves it's own video
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16981 Posts
August 23 2008 06:21 GMT
#12
You have a very sexy accent. Even though you're a guy.

Just wanted to point that out. Australian accents are so hot. Even IF you are a guy.

And good videos, I suppose.
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luiohh
Profile Joined February 2008
Bangladesh78 Posts
August 23 2008 06:38 GMT
#13
muta micro please?
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-23 06:39:09
August 23 2008 06:38 GMT
#14
edit: Nvm ~_~
^-^
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 23 2008 06:43 GMT
#15
On August 23 2008 13:50 blabber wrote:
you can do a wraith/scout micro vs scourges video

I don't have much experience with muta micro so I'm not sure if they are done the same way


They're different

Mutalisk micro is order them to move behind the target, and then when they move into range you order them to attack that unit. Once you see the glaives flying move away and repeat.

Mutalisk vs Scourge or Wraith vs Scourge is pretty simple. Clump your units together (helps if you have Overlord with Mutalisks) and when the Scourge get into firing range, press patrol right on top of your Mutalisks and move away quickly. If done right, the Mutalisks will fire a glaive backward, bouncing and killing multiple Scourge and will move away to cause more trouble.
^-^
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 23 2008 07:09 GMT
#16
yeah what I meant by "muta micro" was with respect to killing scourge I wasn't really sure since I haven't played that many ZvZ games
blabberrrrr
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 23 2008 09:10 GMT
#17
Great Videos. It would be great if more people who knew all the little tricks would make videos explaining how to do them. Much nicer than trying to interpret what somebody typed out.
Thank you!
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
August 23 2008 09:55 GMT
#18
wow very very good videos. short, precise and helpful!
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
August 23 2008 10:50 GMT
#19
Nicely made, thanks for doing this. Gotta love the music
Stimpacked
Profile Joined June 2008
Philippines368 Posts
August 23 2008 10:58 GMT
#20
very good videos its hard to pull of that splash thing but the rest is ok... good job man! more pls...
live and let live...
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
August 23 2008 11:53 GMT
#21
Awesome. tx
觀過斯知仁矣.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 23 2008 17:42 GMT
#22
I already knew these, but the message was gotten across concisely and effectively. Very helpful.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 23 2008 17:47 GMT
#23
Nice! Can you upload some on how to micro against marines vs lurkers? I try to move them to the side but they all get killed
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
August 23 2008 18:03 GMT
#24
On August 24 2008 02:47 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Nice! Can you upload some on how to micro against marines vs lurkers? I try to move them to the side but they all get killed


I think lurkers naturally attack the closest unit so those are the ones you want to move, you want to move them aswell in a way that dodges the line of the spine, for example you dont want to move a group of marines away in a direction where the back marines still walk through the spines.
Insane Lane
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States397 Posts
August 23 2008 18:12 GMT
#25
Very nice, I love the nice, clean format of your explanations
r3dox
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Germany261 Posts
August 23 2008 20:52 GMT
#26
good job with the vids
Riviera
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada5 Posts
August 23 2008 21:22 GMT
#27
Keep it uppp.
bm
Profile Joined August 2008
14 Posts
August 23 2008 21:24 GMT
#28
On August 23 2008 13:53 sillyboy_tomato wrote:
a video about the "magic box" will be so helpful

this!
understanding how your units behave really helps you in microing your units
Riviera
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada5 Posts
August 23 2008 21:28 GMT
#29
Do a worker stack tutorial too.

Using worker stack to stop a ramp run by, defending near your mineral line, offensive worker drill (JulyZerg of course!), slipping a scout in/out of enemies base through their ramp block etc. Tons of applications.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 23 2008 21:33 GMT
#30
great videos, very nice.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
August 23 2008 23:45 GMT
#31
Really nice

Maybe make some videos about progamers like Boxer, Iloveoov, Savior, Nada, Nal_ra, etc?

Like informative ones ^^
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
August 24 2008 01:35 GMT
#32
Nice videos they're very simple and useful. Massive brainstorm for you.

Video about clicking right in front of your army repeatedly to keep it in formation while moving? About aiming your lurkers at the right timing while they burrow to shoot faster? Scourge cloning? Mutalisk stacking and timing hold-position? Proper terran wall-in basics? Unload while move. The eraser. Muta/hydra/scourge + plague vs vessel. Manner pylon/gas. Various ways to clip through minerals. Goon micro. Dweb/reaver
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 24 2008 05:29 GMT
#33
thanks for all the suggestions and comments guys, i really appreciate them.

don't be afraid to criticize either. i fucked up the vulture micro video because i wasn't clear on the instructions and if it weren't for some criticisms i received i wouldn't have updated it to be more concise
AUSSIESCUM
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 24 2008 05:44 GMT
#34
I think you should do videos describing build orders, or how to utilize certain strategies.

Like, someone might know the build for 1fax fe, but might not understand how to pull it off correctly. There is a stunning lack of tutorials on youtube, and I really appreciate what you're doing. keep it up!
RIP Aaliyah
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
August 27 2008 02:26 GMT
#35
Very nice. Any game that my opponent goes DT's I use the lurker one. Use 2 lurkers to burrowed and then attack another lurker(or pref a ling w/ speed but it's trickier because the DT can kill it fast) that you move around trying to manipulate the DT in between the burrowed lurkers and the moving lurker. Then just before the spines hit, move your lurker and the spines will hit the DT but not your own unit! :3. I still end up losing most of the time because I micro instead of macro but it's fun and put on a really good show.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
Phyre
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1288 Posts
August 27 2008 02:35 GMT
#36
Awesome stuff, I'm sure a lot of people will benefit greatly from these. After you get the fairly basic stuff out of the way, definitely looking forward to you doing some more advanced or in depth stuff.
"Oh no, I got you with your pants... on your face... That's not how you wear pants." - Nintu, catching 1 hatch lurks.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 27 2008 17:48 GMT
#37
Wow, these are great. Keep up the good work!
✌
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
August 27 2008 18:57 GMT
#38
These videos are too strong
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 27 2008 21:57 GMT
#39
You might want to do one on mineral hopping too. That's always useful~
this is my quote.
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
August 27 2008 23:01 GMT
#40
very nice smb!
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
August 27 2008 23:26 GMT
#41
Impressive. Most impressive.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
August 28 2008 01:16 GMT
#42
that just boosted my vulture micro by alot =/
ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
August 28 2008 03:27 GMT
#43
pretty cool :D i didnt know the hold lurker one until now, i guess i got left outta the loop i was still spammin S
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
August 28 2008 03:40 GMT
#44
Very cool, the information isn't really anything special, but how you present it is great. Love the pro game application.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 28 2008 03:43 GMT
#45
Very nice. Those are great vids for people just starting out.
God Bless
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
August 28 2008 04:03 GMT
#46
Not to rush you guys or anything, but keep the vids coming! I really enjoyed the videos, even if they are kind of simple. You guys present them in a really clear coherent manner.
Super serious.
illeszt
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States350 Posts
August 28 2008 04:34 GMT
#47
Some suggestions:
1) worker stacking/attacking (the legal one, ie jaedong v lucifer) and moving through units by clicking gas/minerals
2) killing spider mines without detection (2 goons micro forward and backward then shoot)
3) dropping units while moving (unloading on the unit itself while moving)

keep the vids comin!
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
August 28 2008 07:19 GMT
#48
damn these are really nice, especially the pro gamer examples they use
Pain is temporary, but glory is forever.
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
August 28 2008 10:39 GMT
#49
Great videos! A little dark though, perhaps increase SC's gamma?

Thank you for your time.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
August 28 2008 13:41 GMT
#50
Hey if you need ideas I started this thread and its been sort of AFK for a while http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66532
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
August 28 2008 13:43 GMT
#51
Wow, these are very well done. I can definitely see these being extremely useful to someone just beginning who doesn't get the "common-knowledge" techniques. Next person I introduce to Starcraft will be watching these videos early on. Keep it up!
parasite
Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
August 28 2008 23:47 GMT
#52
any more toss vids?
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
August 29 2008 00:34 GMT
#53
Really clear and concise videos. Much appreciated, especially from an eternal noob like me.
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
August 29 2008 00:45 GMT
#54
Wow, I watched the first one, and it was very clear and precise, not too much fluff, and it was very professional too! Keep it up, I'll be looking into this if I get into SC again.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
August 29 2008 00:53 GMT
#55
as a total noob, i really appreciate these videos, thanks
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
September 08 2008 01:08 GMT
#56
the reach v oov zealot bomb demonstration needs to show more of that epic battle. reach bombed OOV for like 5 minutes and i remember watching that for the first time and being like, "oh.. that's how you zealot bomb"
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-08 11:25:06
September 08 2008 11:20 GMT
#57
These are awesome!

Some suggestions that people might wonder about/haven't thought of;

- How to drop units while moving
- How to probe/scv/drone jump
- Mineral slide for scouting purposes/breaking chokes or early game contains. (Works to break stasised chokes as well)
- How to set rallypoints effectively (by using the F-keys)
- Using dmatrix vs lurkers (terran only)
- Eraser. Irradiate 2 vessles and put them on patrol over your opponents mineral line (terran only)


Those are the ones I could think of right now. Keep up the good work!

Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
September 08 2008 19:14 GMT
#58
These are basically "How to execute pimpest plays" which is great. So far I've known all of them but I could imagine there are few tricks that I'm unaware of. meRz gave good examples for next episodes in previous comment if you lack ideas.

So yeah, keep up the good work.
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
September 09 2008 01:41 GMT
#59
I'm going to subscribe on YouTube. This seems really useful. I'll probably link some to friends. =D

Thank you.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
September 09 2008 21:04 GMT
#60
Bookmarked!
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 04 2009 08:14 GMT
#61
the essen...who?

new update! the vessel eraser is explained in all its glory.

any comments, criticisms and suggestions that anyone may have are appreciated.
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
January 04 2009 08:21 GMT
#62
The videos and the information you give are very good. The only thing bothering me is the way you speak. Like you kind of have a monotone and the pauses seem a bit unnatural. It might just be me though and that's not even a big problem.
Axieoqu
Profile Joined October 2005
Finland204 Posts
January 04 2009 08:22 GMT
#63
Wow this is great! Gotta make my noob friends see this.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 04 2009 08:34 GMT
#64
Wow these are really cool and they look proffesional!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
January 04 2009 09:09 GMT
#65
Nice job, I found these on youtube a couple of days ago.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 04 2009 09:40 GMT
#66
Such a nice game to pick the pro example for the eraser.

Without that eraser, flash would've lost for sure, but he turned that game around into a win. Most clutch eraser in pro history.
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 04 2009 12:34 GMT
#67
On January 04 2009 17:21 Demoninja wrote:
The videos and the information you give are very good. The only thing bothering me is the way you speak. Like you kind of have a monotone and the pauses seem a bit unnatural. It might just be me though and that's not even a big problem.

the pauses are a result of not having enough audio to go with the amount of video that i want to show. thanks for bringing it up though, i didn't realize that they were that noticeable and annoying for anyone else.
the voice problems are partly a result of the bargain bin microphone i use, and partly because that's my actual voice and not all of us are natural born voice actors :p.
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
January 04 2009 13:16 GMT
#68
Just discovered this, very nice and helpfull for me, thank you!
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
January 04 2009 14:01 GMT
#69
This reminds me of an old project various members of TL were putting together. It was a collection of videos dedicated to showing the fundamentals of the game for a casual audience (macro, micro, expanding, a little about each race, and so on), but I have no idea what happened with all of it. I was curious to see how that came together... did it die out?
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Moff
Profile Joined August 2008
United Kingdom166 Posts
January 04 2009 14:42 GMT
#70
the videos are very good for newer and even more experienced players, i think videos speak a lot louder than huge walls of text.
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
January 04 2009 19:16 GMT
#71
the side by side showing the ultra ling attack was a really nice touch. great video.
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
January 06 2009 08:44 GMT
#72
Really nice video.
Super serious.
Love.Zelduck
Profile Joined February 2008
United States170 Posts
January 06 2009 15:53 GMT
#73
On January 05 2009 04:16 DhakhaR wrote:
the side by side showing the ultra ling attack was a really nice touch. great video.

I thought it was an extremely powerful visual.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 06 2009 17:44 GMT
#74
Very nice videos I've seen them before on youtube. Good job.
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 06 2009 17:48 GMT
#75
Very nice!

Though, be careful which songs you choose or YouTube will delete them without remorse!
Chains none
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
January 06 2009 20:14 GMT
#76
SMB what's the song played in the Vessel Eraser video? :O
^-^
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 06 2009 20:37 GMT
#77
good shit, let me know if you need some assistance again~
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-06 21:42:26
January 06 2009 21:41 GMT
#78
On January 07 2009 05:14 Equinox_kr wrote:
SMB what's the song played in the Vessel Eraser video? :O


Dropkick Murphys - I'm Shipping Up To Boston



edit: Sorry for slightly derailing the thread.
Chains none
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
January 06 2009 21:53 GMT
#79
nice new vid, ive used the eraser from time to time on drones, but never thought of using it against Ultraling
I feel like pwning noobs
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
January 06 2009 22:39 GMT
#80
On January 07 2009 05:37 thedeadhaji wrote:
good shit, let me know if you need some assistance with anything

Moderator
UnS)DeathTrap
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada150 Posts
January 06 2009 23:42 GMT
#81
How bout goons micro?
Load/Unload Dropship?

Maybe they could be usefull for videos
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27146 Posts
January 07 2009 00:04 GMT
#82
Great work. This was my first time to see this thread.
ModeratorGodfather
JaZz
Profile Joined December 2008
United States23 Posts
January 07 2009 03:52 GMT
#83
I'd like to see a video of d-web usage
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
January 07 2009 05:49 GMT
#84
Good work, but the title seems a little off. These are more like useful tricks than essentials. >.>
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
January 07 2009 06:12 GMT
#85
Wow I really like that use of irradiate to kill of the zerg attack at the natural
Nice vid, fairly basic stuff, but things every player should have in their arsenal
more weight
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-07 06:42:17
January 07 2009 06:40 GMT
#86
On January 07 2009 14:49 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Good work, but the title seems a little off. These are more like useful tricks than essentials. >.>

i called it the essentials because i believe these are tricks that every player should know. they are very common and some can be used on a game to game basis.

edit: which is why there won't be a video on dweb usage (sorry jazz). if sair reaver were still a common pvz build i'd have considered it but its more or less obsolete now.
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SecondComing
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States30 Posts
January 07 2009 06:51 GMT
#87
On January 07 2009 15:40 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2009 14:49 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Good work, but the title seems a little off. These are more like useful tricks than essentials. >.>

i called it the essentials because i believe these are tricks that every player should know. they are very common and some can be used on a game to game basis.

edit: which is why there won't be a video on dweb usage (sorry jazz). if sair reaver were still a common pvz build i'd have considered it but its more or less obsolete now.


wait sair reaver isn't common now?
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
January 07 2009 06:56 GMT
#88
Fast expanding against every race, with every race would be pretty essential?

Or I guess its more detailed details and such i guess. Very nice video though if you need help with anything, i would be willing to help =).
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 07 2009 06:58 GMT
#89
On January 07 2009 15:51 SecondComing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2009 15:40 SoMuchBetter wrote:
On January 07 2009 14:49 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Good work, but the title seems a little off. These are more like useful tricks than essentials. >.>

i called it the essentials because i believe these are tricks that every player should know. they are very common and some can be used on a game to game basis.

edit: which is why there won't be a video on dweb usage (sorry jazz). if sair reaver were still a common pvz build i'd have considered it but its more or less obsolete now.


wait sair reaver isn't common now?

not in the traditional sense, unless its made a resurgence in the past couple of months since i stopped following progaming. sair reaver used to be a build used for an entire game, then it became a mid game build used to take islands/expansions before transitioning into another build for lategame and even that eventually died off.
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Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
January 09 2009 09:39 GMT
#90
Thanks. This is pretty useful!
I've always wondered how vulture patrol micro and could't figure it out with the help of guides. Now with the video i finally understood how it works.

Thanks again.
Gustav_Wind
Profile Joined July 2008
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-11 12:58:23
January 11 2009 12:56 GMT
#91
On January 07 2009 15:40 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2009 14:49 Gustav_Wind wrote:
Good work, but the title seems a little off. These are more like useful tricks than essentials. >.>

i called it the essentials because i believe these are tricks that every player should know. they are very common and some can be used on a game to game basis.


Haha, I understand. I just mentioned it because I had just watched TL Attack with Chill and he kept mentioning how some players knew lots of fancy micro tricks but didn't know build orders/mechanics.

Sair/Reaver is still common as a transitional strategy. Protosses often open Sair/Reaver and force the Zerg to deal with it, then switch to ground.

It is true that that build doesn't use D-web, though.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
January 11 2009 23:59 GMT
#92
I hope you have the videos saved somewhere in case youtube decides to ban your video/account for copyright issues. (Dropkick Murphey's song)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Shado.
Profile Joined February 2008
United States187 Posts
January 25 2009 02:08 GMT
#93
On September 08 2008 20:20 meRz wrote:
These are awesome!

Some suggestions that people might wonder about/haven't thought of;

- How to drop units while moving
- How to probe/scv/drone jump
- Mineral slide for scouting purposes/breaking chokes or early game contains. (Works to break stasised chokes as well)
- How to set rallypoints effectively (by using the F-keys)
- Using dmatrix vs lurkers (terran only)
- Eraser. Irradiate 2 vessles and put them on patrol over your opponents mineral line (terran only)


Those are the ones I could think of right now. Keep up the good work!



How do you set rally points effectively by using the F-Keys? (I play zerg)
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
January 25 2009 02:28 GMT
#94
On January 25 2009 11:08 Shado. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2008 20:20 meRz wrote:
These are awesome!

Some suggestions that people might wonder about/haven't thought of;

- How to drop units while moving
- How to probe/scv/drone jump
- Mineral slide for scouting purposes/breaking chokes or early game contains. (Works to break stasised chokes as well)
- How to set rallypoints effectively (by using the F-keys)
- Using dmatrix vs lurkers (terran only)
- Eraser. Irradiate 2 vessles and put them on patrol over your opponents mineral line (terran only)


Those are the ones I could think of right now. Keep up the good work!



How do you set rally points effectively by using the F-Keys? (I play zerg)

Next time use search first find on "rally points". This doesnt work that good for zerg.
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beyond.wudge
Profile Joined December 2007
Australia58 Posts
January 25 2009 07:38 GMT
#95
Really really good vids. Keep it up.
MiOB
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1 Post
January 28 2009 04:59 GMT
#96
very very new player who happened to find this thread. Registered just to post this. But I'll make a post about me if I want to later.

1) huge thank you for posting this stuff here. I've been practicing macro / micro etc against computers and this will give me some fun stuff to break things up and keep me engaged (and maybe break that 40 apm barrier).

2) I nominate this thread to be added to this thread under the beginner or possibly advanced section.

3) I might suggest that a lot of the things in the aforementioned thread, both in the beginner and advanced sections, could be explained much more clearly with a video.

4) Some people have suggested that magic box be covered. It is somewhat covered by this video although I think you would do a much better job actually explaining it. But just linking to that video with a 3 sentence description should work pretty well if you want to save some time.

5) A very easy way to practice some of these things, I've found/guessed, is to create a single player game against a computer, (possibly) use power overwhelming, tech to whichever units you need to perform the action, and save just before doing the technique. I could create some save files for the applicable techniques if you'd like to link to them from the videos for immediate newbie see, newbie do practice. I don't know where I'd host them though. I think it could possibly be pretty neat, actually, for later videos, if you could set up one of these saved games, play through it in your video, and then have the newb replicate the exact same technique from that saved game for, say, a quality reaver drop or a pro tvz micro battle.
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 21 2009 15:26 GMT
#97
don't mind me just passing by.
whats that in my pocket? a new essentials video?
dont be silly
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Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
February 21 2009 15:55 GMT
#98
nice work. I always wondered how you attack while moving and I never knew about that way of creating lurker traps; I always thought hold lurker was the only one.
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Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
February 21 2009 18:38 GMT
#99
SoMuchBetter, I really applaud your effort. The Essentials is an excellent video series and I enjoy each new installment. I hope it will have a long future and that I will indeed learn something.

That said, I was slightly dissapointed by the latest Essentials video. While you explained well how the technique is done, you did not include any examples of professional gamers doing it. Also, as a Protoss player, I would have appretiated a demonstration of Carrier stacking.

Nevertheless, I commend your good work. Keep it up.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 21 2009 18:47 GMT
#100
Carriers are usually not stacked in this way I don't think, they stack fairly well on their own anyway, and you need to be able to press I for interceptors.
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koreakool
Profile Joined January 2008
United States334 Posts
February 21 2009 19:43 GMT
#101
You should do one on move larva
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
February 21 2009 20:41 GMT
#102
isn't it just pressing "stop" when an overlord is selected with them?

Nice videos somuchbetter!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 21 2009 21:00 GMT
#103
The vulture one helped alot, I'd been doing it like the move shot all this time (fleeing, then clicking to move towards for a split second before I attack move and then move away again -_-)
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-21 21:59:28
February 21 2009 21:57 GMT
#104
plz do a continuation of the last one with muta vs scourge

also, you can use burrowed unit for mutalisk. or in the case of bluestorm, you can use a fat unit like a lurker who can't fit in the narrow choke, and he'll run around (or you could wall the little choke with a ling and use another ling)
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Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
February 21 2009 22:50 GMT
#105
Simple enough, and well explained. Nice job.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
February 21 2009 23:42 GMT
#106
Stacking is also important to stop your units from being clones. For example BCS in TvT, you have more chances of being emped, but your enemy will have lots of trouble clining yamato properly.

Muta stacking vs scourge is a must too.
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axle135
Profile Joined December 2008
33 Posts
February 22 2009 02:35 GMT
#107
Could you show actual effects of stacking v. not? I'm having trouble figuring why you would take less damage from turrets or anti-air defenses.

This will probably be a noob question:
In many videos, units stay equally spaced out as they were while selected. Is this automatic, or is there a way to maintain it even while under attack? Would such be useful for dodging lurkers?

Also, are lurker attacks the only ones which go (slowly enough / aren't autotargeting) to be dodged?

A small suggestion for future videos: Perhaps throw in a tip or two what to watch out for while using each of these, e.g. irradiate for muta stacking.

-Thanks!
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-22 02:47:36
February 22 2009 02:41 GMT
#108
On February 22 2009 11:35 axle135 wrote:
Could you show actual effects of stacking v. not? I'm having trouble figuring why you would take less damage from turrets or anti-air defenses.

because if your units are stacked then they take up less space and make it easier to maneuver around defences
Also, are lurker attacks the only ones which go (slowly enough / aren't autotargeting) to be dodged?

you can take less damage from scarabs by running away from them (ever notice how often scarabs dud when peons run away? you can do this with all units). spider mines too i guess?


This will probably be a noob question:
In many videos, units stay equally spaced out as they were while selected. Is this automatic, or is there a way to maintain it even while under attack? Would such be useful for dodging lurkers?

there is a technique to keep units in formation called magic boxes, but its not really practical in most situations. I think what youre referring to is just plain old good micro to keep units spread (the use of hold position and move command as opposed to just a-move)
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
February 23 2009 15:42 GMT
#109
I just wanna add in my appreciation as well. Your vids are concise and well done. I think your explanations are solid and as always the pro gaming examples are a nice touch.
axle135
Profile Joined December 2008
33 Posts
February 23 2009 20:51 GMT
#110
I forgot to say earlier that these videos are really great. Thanks for answering the questions. It's really a shame there isn't more like this out there.
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
February 24 2009 03:22 GMT
#111
These are really helpful. keep up the good work. Who knows you may release a DVD teaching all starcraft players ;p
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zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
February 24 2009 03:54 GMT
#112
On February 22 2009 11:35 axle135 wrote:
In many videos, units stay equally spaced out as they were while selected. Is this automatic, or is there a way to maintain it even while under attack? Would such be useful for dodging lurkers?
-Thanks!
I think what you're describing might be when a group of units walks across the map while staying spread out. When you've selected a group of 12 or less units, if you tell them to move or a-move to a place far away and just let them walk there, they'll end up in single file, but if you tell them to move just a little bit in front of the group in the direction you want to go, find the right distance out and just keep spam clicking that same distance in front of the group, you can guide them forward one step at a time and they'll keep formation somewhat. It's a little hard to describe. This is really only a good method i think for moving small groups relatively short distances because it's such a pain in the ass.
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CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-25 00:42:25
February 25 2009 00:40 GMT
#113
I just want to thank SoMuchBetter for making these videos I've just today started playing on ICCUP I got my butt whooped big time but none the less these tips have helped me alot. I've watched many Pro match's and always wondered how things were done mainly things like stacking Mutalisks and stopping Lurkers from attacking until you give the order and now I know. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos.
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
February 25 2009 14:55 GMT
#114
Wow, nice job man, these are sweet. I can't believe I haven't seen these before. With Starcraft back on the top 20 list of PC games in January, we'll probably have a few people to point at these. =)
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
March 01 2009 19:44 GMT
#115
great vids and sick music (Velvet Revolver !), thanks a lot.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
March 01 2009 20:27 GMT
#116
On February 22 2009 11:41 SoMuchBetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2009 11:35 axle135 wrote:
Could you show actual effects of stacking v. not? I'm having trouble figuring why you would take less damage from turrets or anti-air defenses.

because if your units are stacked then they take up less space and make it easier to maneuver around defences
Show nested quote +
Also, are lurker attacks the only ones which go (slowly enough / aren't autotargeting) to be dodged?

you can take less damage from scarabs by running away from them (ever notice how often scarabs dud when peons run away? you can do this with all units). spider mines too i guess?


Show nested quote +
This will probably be a noob question:
In many videos, units stay equally spaced out as they were while selected. Is this automatic, or is there a way to maintain it even while under attack? Would such be useful for dodging lurkers?

there is a technique to keep units in formation called magic boxes, but its not really practical in most situations. I think what youre referring to is just plain old good micro to keep units spread (the use of hold position and move command as opposed to just a-move)


SoMuchBetter has it right but I just wanted to add some of my own comments:

About stacking: Maneuvering is the key. When they're stacked like that, they all fire at the the same time so you can dance in out of a turret or marine's range and get the maximum amount of damage done. A really good muta micro'er can hit archons, something that you can really only do when they're stacked. Of course, if you mess up, all your muta are at like half health.

About Scarabs/spider mines: Scarabs, they glitch. If you can stall them long enough they'll just dud and running away is a really good way of just making them dud. Spider mines are really hit or miss. I guess they have better ai than scarabs but sometimes they follow whatever's running away and dud or somethings they'll follow whatever's running away and cause a massive amount of damage.

Magic Boxes: There's a thread on it in the recommended threads section. It's worth a read.

Again, the videos are well done Somuchbetter.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
March 02 2009 02:25 GMT
#117
I liked the Wraith demonstration... same technique as Mutas (almost)
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