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alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-15 03:01:27
June 15 2008 02:58 GMT
#61
you have an scv for an icon yet make 9000 words of zerg guide T_T
no jk still <3
now i can dodge tvt and do zvt!!! =D
edit: btw once i saw a +1 attack ling timing attack zvz that made my balls explode
maybe you cud include the evo/upgrade timing if you knows it? ^.^
more weight
w3jjjj
Profile Joined April 2007
United States760 Posts
June 15 2008 04:17 GMT
#62
Those replays are insane!! In several games I just could not believe what I was seeing. Especially that 2 gate one was so freaking impossible I watched the whole game with my jaw dropped...

I realized that the primary flaws in my game are 1. the lack of scourge use, 2. passive game play, and 3. Too greedy with drones. The way you deny protoss from taking their third with lurker/scourge was very instructive, I never knew lurkers can be so badass

P.S. I'm like 2-5 against nrg.bamboo, you just showed me how to pwn him. 5 hatch hydra gogogo!
Chuck Norris can salvage his opponent's structures.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
June 15 2008 08:29 GMT
#63
well, I was really behind in the 2 gate replay... I actually came back, but I stopped playing serious and I lost lol. Oh well.
Blu-Ray
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland93 Posts
June 15 2008 10:34 GMT
#64
We Protoss from Aiur need guide like this but for toss... -,-

Zergs have fucking good - InControl, SieGe, Superiorwolf and Ahzz are writing great guides for em and we Protosses have nothing... ^^
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 15 2008 12:15 GMT
#65
Aiur is dead, we're abandoned. We shrink into shakurus and abides its secretive ways, there is no definitive ways to win, zerg will always overpower, we must improvise and stay strong...
poor toss, we get no love ~~
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 15 2008 13:50 GMT
#66
Terarn has nothing, daze's guide is in so old my grandma finds it interesting to read.
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
June 15 2008 13:59 GMT
#67
Lol, I am laughing only because that joke is so ridiculously bad, GS.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 15 2008 14:38 GMT
#68
You guys (Terran/Toss) have like 80% of the current pro gaming; not to mention terran legends like boxer nada , oov, flash, protoss monsters Kingdom Nal_rA ZeuS ForU and mantoss reach
what do zerg players have? the only one who's in the top 10 kespa ranking is jaedong, <3 ; but otherwise we have the awesome maestro savior (who's slumping as of recently) ; chojja's no where in sight; and julyzerg~ ; however murphy's law gets to be a bitch, and even though FINALLY he qualifies ; he is then, paired with jaedong and annihilated
+ Show Spoiler +
and drevien > monniiii 3-0 *cry*
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
June 15 2008 14:54 GMT
#69
I'm going to have to print this out and read it while commuting or something. Someone should format this, add screenshots, and make a printable PDF. That would rock. If anyone is willing to take the lead on this, I'd be sure willing to help.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-15 17:33:35
June 15 2008 17:33 GMT
#70
Thanks ahzz. You've one of the few nice zergs out there.

On June 15 2008 11:58 alphafuzard wrote:
you have an scv for an icon yet make 9000 words of zerg guide T_T
no jk still <3

Haha yeah a year ago I played a bit with him and some other guys and hung out on vent and he's very good.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
June 15 2008 18:14 GMT
#71
Wow, that 2gate zvp rep was so depressing.

Argh, I want to punch some babies after watching that.

Good shit with guide though :o
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Tacticas
Profile Joined July 2007
Israel74 Posts
June 16 2008 12:39 GMT
#72
Wow, amazing guide! thanks alot Mr. =]
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
June 16 2008 13:21 GMT
#73
On June 13 2008 19:54 Camlito wrote:
can anyone make a pvz one?


It's full of PvZ guide ... the problem here is not the guide ... it's the MU.

Fucking hard ... funcking imba. My advise is read this guide and start playing ZvP instead of PvP, you can compensate your lose in PvZ with easy win vs P players (playing yourself Z).

If you want to stick in hardness, go the recomended tread in the strategy forum and you'll find what you are looking for.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
June 16 2008 14:09 GMT
#74
imo pvz isnt that hard. You just got to realize how it really works, and THAT takes a while...
misterroboto
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada27 Posts
June 17 2008 13:21 GMT
#75
Awesome guide, dude! Just have a couple of questions/comments regarding the replays and such. Firstly, is your two-hand micro a common thread among foreign pros or is it something specific to your style of play? Gosia's hotkey choice for his hatcheries wouldn't make much sense to me if he didn't use two hands... 1 2 3 4 are IMHO harder to reach when your fingers are placed on sz or sd than even 8 9 0. Secondly, in your replays you seem to press the hatchery hotkeys every 1-2 minutes and yet you still maintain your ressources near 0 (except in the very end when you seem to go "aw, fook it!". Does that mean that you still macro with your mouse? Ideally, would you only use the method your prescribed in your guide or would you also macro with your mouse?

Thanks a lot for your help. Us zerg newbies (larvaes, I guess) are getting spoiled with all the guides being released recently
*beep*
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
June 17 2008 13:44 GMT
#76
I don't know how common the two hand macro is. It's just something I came up with myself after 3000 games or something. I have no idea how common it is. but basically, It's more important that all your troops are at hand at all times, so it makes the most sense to place them 1,2,3,4 etc. Thus it leaves hatcheries to 0,9,8,7,6,5 etc.

How often I press my hotkeys totally depends of the situation, but as long as my hatcheries are only BARELY able to produce 3 larva, I'm fine since they store up (thats why this method is the best for zerg) That's why I might take 1-2 minutes to do it sometimes.

In the end game I might start to have so many units that they overlap with my hatchery hotkeys, or I have so many hatcheries that they cannot be hotkeyed anymore, in which case I use mouse to macro.

I might also use my mouse to macro if I have a lot of hatcheries on the same screen. Sorta depends.
KicksAss
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada30 Posts
June 20 2008 20:01 GMT
#77
very nice reference page for zerg players
If practice makes perfect and no ones perfect, why practice in the first place?
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
June 23 2008 13:13 GMT
#78
Nice Guide.
I think I'll start messing around with 6 pool. Love when toss players gets frustrated (and kastrated) :D
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
July 02 2008 16:58 GMT
#79
The "overpool" BO misses the placing of the pool!
Wir haben zuwenig Vespingas!
imthemaster
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
July 13 2008 22:31 GMT
#80
What should zerg do against a terran that fe's, then gets an extremely fast +1attack, like the terran delays the academy just a bit to get it up. The upgrade is finished right when my mutalisks get there, and I cant keep him in his base for too long, so I have trouble saving my expansions. Is it my mutalisks that are late, or should I play differently?
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