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Is Polypoid considered New FS/?

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Profile Joined August 2020
251 Posts
February 04 2022 18:29 GMT
#1
Why does everyone say Polypoid is better than Fighting Spirit? I don't understand the map as to why it would be better than Fighting Spirit. Everyone seems to think it is the new most played map like a modern day version of Fighting Spirit/Python or Lost Temple.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-04 20:15:41
February 04 2022 20:03 GMT
#2
I think as time goes on terran can adapt to the map to make themselves overpowered in TvZ and it takes years to get right. Terran pros will know where to put their turrets to maximize protection on a certain map like FS, but not yet on polypoid. As years go by of playing the same map, terran will adjust building placement and builds to become dominate. So steady flow of new maps is needed to keep match ups even. This is not an issue for ladder players up to S who do not really know who their opponent is and the metagaming is minimal. I believe Polypoid is the new standard map for the era, and will be for half decade or so

I also believe with the current meta of 2.5 hatch muta vs terran, FS may be back to balanced
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 04 2022 23:20 GMT
#3
Polypoid is more enjoyable for me because there are more options. You can take mineral only or gas exp. FS feels very limited in comparison.
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PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
February 05 2022 00:08 GMT
#4
LT -> Luna -> Python -> FS -> Polypoid

(circuit breaker ect..)

bottom line: The best map (at the time) gets played so much that a) the pros figure it out and match ups get very defined b) it gets boring and repetetive over time

what happened to every good map (at least good at the time) happens to Polypoid slowly as well.. but needless to say that Polypoid is cleary better than all those very popular maps before
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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
February 06 2022 03:41 GMT
#5
FS is a very imbalanced map. It's a really good map for protoss and zergs suffer from it. Polypoid is little bit more balanced.
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ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
February 07 2022 01:32 GMT
#6
a little bit harder to take 3rd, so more fun map
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10360 Posts
February 07 2022 03:54 GMT
#7
On February 05 2022 08:20 Zoler wrote:
Polypoid is more enjoyable for me because there are more options. You can take mineral only or gas exp. FS feels very limited in comparison.

On February 07 2022 10:32 ajmbek wrote:
a little bit harder to take 3rd, so more fun map

There are also more interesting terrain features IMO. The position of the high ground for the mineral only 3rd is sort of ideally placed in a way that can be used by both defenders and attackers, without having the absolute constriction that maps like Sniper Ridge suffered from (because there is a second way "out" on the low ground, and that also allows for a better arc on the low ground going up). Similarly, the gas bases at 3/6/9/12 are more open and less restricted compared to FS, and are more akin to something like CB in that regard.

I feel like I will always be a huge FS fan because that is where I am most comfortable and played the most games during the most active part of my StarCraft "career", but I have to acknowledge that maps like Polypoid and Sylphid simply bring more to the table.

That being said, player quality is more important for game quality than any of the above mentioned features, IMO.
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ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
February 07 2022 14:34 GMT
#8
On February 07 2022 12:54 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2022 08:20 Zoler wrote:
Polypoid is more enjoyable for me because there are more options. You can take mineral only or gas exp. FS feels very limited in comparison.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2022 10:32 ajmbek wrote:
a little bit harder to take 3rd, so more fun map

There are also more interesting terrain features IMO. The position of the high ground for the mineral only 3rd is sort of ideally placed in a way that can be used by both defenders and attackers, without having the absolute constriction that maps like Sniper Ridge suffered from (because there is a second way "out" on the low ground, and that also allows for a better arc on the low ground going up). Similarly, the gas bases at 3/6/9/12 are more open and less restricted compared to FS, and are more akin to something like CB in that regard.

I feel like I will always be a huge FS fan because that is where I am most comfortable and played the most games during the most active part of my StarCraft "career", but I have to acknowledge that maps like Polypoid and Sylphid simply bring more to the table.

That being said, player quality is more important for game quality than any of the above mentioned features, IMO.



Of course you are more confortable on this map. Because on FS there is mostrly nothing that can happen. It is a macro map really easy to defend. So you can play what you can planned.

Try to play as planned on HBR and you will die to whatever.
Sic iter ad astra
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