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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
October 11 2006 04:40 GMT
#41
If anyone has this rep, it shows off the incredible chess-like antics of TvT
http://sc.gosugamers.net/replays.php?id=3025

In short, tester makes a comeback from 90 pop vs a 150 pop (maybe 120, but it was definetly in the 3 digit range.), really entertaining.
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 11 2006 12:37 GMT
#42
On October 11 2006 13:40 QuietIdiot wrote:
If anyone has this rep, it shows off the incredible chess-like antics of TvT
http://sc.gosugamers.net/replays.php?id=3025

In short, tester makes a comeback from 90 pop vs a 150 pop (maybe 120, but it was definetly in the 3 digit range.), really entertaining.

download to that replay doesnt work for me T_T
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
October 11 2006 19:14 GMT
#43
Thank you very much Mortality .
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Midnight[yR]
Profile Joined August 2006
Korea (South)164 Posts
October 11 2006 22:18 GMT
#44
On October 09 2006 19:23 Mortality wrote:
Hmmmm, cool that you guys liked my post, but did I help the thread poster any? :o

The idea of TvT is simple: unit placement, but how you get the right placement and how you get a good position can sometimes be difficult to understand. Anything else I need to talk about? Turret placement? Various openings? Various types of maps? Specific maps? ;;


Would it be a good idea if I went Vessel tech and use Matrix?
^_^
PersonMan
Profile Joined March 2006
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-11 23:01:32
October 11 2006 22:42 GMT
#45
I have some questions on the 2 Fac Vult opening:

Speed or Mines first? One Addon or Double Addon?
Why do some people switch to Gols, some to Tanks, some Expo, and others just make Vults non stop? Does it depend on what they scout?
Do you have to cut SCVs?

And for any opening, why do ppl make a vult before add-on?
When do you get your Ebay?
When do you get your Academy?
When do you get your Armory?
WastedYouth
Profile Joined March 2006
United States563 Posts
October 12 2006 08:07 GMT
#46
On October 12 2006 07:42 PersonMan wrote:
I have some questions on the 2 Fac Vult opening:

Speed or Mines first? One Addon or Double Addon?
Why do some people switch to Gols, some to Tanks, some Expo, and others just make Vults non stop? Does it depend on what they scout?
Do you have to cut SCVs?

And for any opening, why do ppl make a vult before add-on?
When do you get your Ebay?
When do you get your Academy?
When do you get your Armory?


The vulture before add-on is to kill the 1 marine that shoots at the rax/kills scout and hopefully a few scvs thereafter. Sometimes people will even make 2 vults to kill the marine and the one defensive vult. One remedy is to make 2 marines to sit on your ramp and Just get the add-on.

What you build depends on a few things. If the spots are close you might get a tank first to put some oomph behind your rush. On far spots people get 2 add ons and get speed + mines asap. Really it's a matter of common sense. If they have only 1 fact + expo or starport you don't need speed and you don't need an early tank, but you do need a faster armory/ebay. If they're obviously going 2 fact vults with 2 add ons you should probably just get gol/tank and academy and expand quickly inside ur base. Just use common sense.

On maps like nostalgia or luna gas is tight, so people will counter vults with more vults, springing for the 3 factorys.

You shouldn't cut scvs assuming you plan on taking your natural soon.
Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. Skill is what happens when luck becomes habit
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 14 2006 02:35 GMT
#47
Vessel tech + matrix is only wortthwhile in BC vs BC fights if you have a lot of gas. If you make any vessels, reserch EMP as well, since using EMP you can block enemy BC from using yamato, uncloak enemy wraiths, or prevent ghosts from using lockdown.

I'm working on a rep pack. People may already have some of the replays I will show but I will include them all anyway and write a few words about what you should look at in each of them.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
_PulSe_
Profile Joined August 2006
United States541 Posts
October 14 2006 02:53 GMT
#48
Thanks for all the posts on here. A lot of it was things that u pick up after playin a lot o tvt. The m ain reason i started this thread was to get at least 1 good tvt thread. so far this is the only 1 that gives really good advice (aka mortality) and doesnt turn into some basic "2 tanks > 1 tank" crap. Thanks
Its not that Im lazy. Its that I just dont care.
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 14 2006 11:42 GMT
#49
Recommended Thread?
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-10-14 14:32:10
October 14 2006 14:31 GMT
#50
I appreciate all of the positive feedback.

http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=TvT_Rep_Pack.zip

That's a sort of first installment of replays I like. Unfortunately in February of this year my old hard drive broke (it sputtered a bit and then stopped working completely; since it was a mechanical problem that happened very suddenly I had nothing backed up and lost maybe 8k replays + the mid term I was working on -_-;; ), so my current archive is somewhat limited. If you want I can go and search for more replays that I have seen and liked.

Also I didn't add anything from my private archive. I have some private replays of some good TvT players and I'd have to check with them if they will let me upload any.



I wrote some brief write-ups of the games but I cut them out of this post since I think it's better to just watch the replays, enjoy them and study them.

Games in there....
-Midas vs Casy @ PA from WCG Korea
-NaDa vs Oov games 1 and 3 from IEF
-Boxer vs Oov @ Guillo
-Mind vs Shudder @ Luna
-Nada vs Ggomma @ Darkness
-Kouros vs Blaze @ Luna
-Fantasy vs Finepix from Sandlot
-Super vs KH practice game for IEF @ Luna
-Super vs KH from Sandlot
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Alborz
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Canada1551 Posts
October 14 2006 15:46 GMT
#51
Thanks
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17732 Posts
October 14 2006 16:25 GMT
#52
Thank you sooo much mortality. I would want the brief writeups too.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
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