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further read on magical boxes and center of gravity techniques, absolutely vital for casting lots of units and dropping.
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32275 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33677 further read on magical boxes and center of gravity techniques, absolutely vital for casting lots of units and dropping. | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
And god damnit people, how many times do I have to say that center of gavity is unrelated to magical boxes?! | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32275 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On February 22 2009 09:41 IntoTheWow wrote: Is it? its about single clicking and spreading results... Knowing one doesn't help you in the other. Center of gravity only applies to drops, and the single click you make must be precisely at the point which is the center of gravity. The point of the technique is so you can unload simultaneously while the dropships/ovies/shuttles keep moving. Magic boxes is about clicking anywhere outside of the box, and it applies to any units and any command. It predicts the outcome of a variety of commands given your current selection. | ||
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
On February 22 2009 06:32 Archaic wrote: Patrol react involves non attacking units and the sunken colony is in ZvZ. 2gate rushes involve neither of these... EDIT: And yes, I'm restraining myself here. On January 08 2008 18:26 pangshai wrote: creep colonies have 400hp, while sunkens have 300hp. so if you reduce a morphing sunken colony's hp to below 100 or below, it will morph with 1 hp. good to know with 2 gate vs 12 hatch as well. leave the morphing sunken at 100hp, then kill it when it spawns. uh ok maybe i wasn't clear the patrol move AND the bit on sunken colony is really helpful. -> that sunken colony bit makes 2 gate rushes much easier for me. and obviously the patrol move has nothing to do with 2 gate? unless this whole creep colony sunken colony stuff doesn't work anymore due to it being patched | ||
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Agro_Z
United States138 Posts
General: -Placing a building in these positions adjacent to the geyser will help your workers harvest in a straighter line: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/18899ebb76.jpg) -Manner pylon (building a pylon in the mineral line to hinder mining) helps if you plan to zealot rush someone. -Early game, set your Nexus/CC/Hatch rally point to the next open mineral, that way the worker begins moving right as it spawns. -Sending a group of workers from your main to your expansion as the Nexus/CC/Hatchery is finishing can give you a mining advantage. Also, telling your workers to mine at a mineral patch will allow it to move through other units. -If units are under stasis at your ramp, preventing your guys from getting out, stack your workers through the stasis-ed units and press stop (much like a drone drill). This will move the stasis-ed units around. If unsuccessful, repeat until a path is clear. P -If you are zealot rushing in PvP, using your scouting probe to attack along side your zealot can really help (which is why you should keep it alive!) Z -Plauge and ensnare will reveal cloaked units if casted on them. T (Sorry, nothing here. Terran isn't exactly my forte) | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
-In TvP when going FD do NOT lose your first two vultures, isntead lay defensive mines and keep them patrolling the map for probes. -In TvP always be annoying with your scv, it is very strong. Delaying tech builds is very important. If you see no range he is going DT, if you see late range its probably a fake and hes going proxy or DT. -In TvP when you see 14 nexus send your FD with 5-6 scvs drilled to his nat's minerals to slow his economy down. Continue with dropship harass while you macro. -In TvP try to hit his zealot army with a group of vultures to slim down the number he has, if you kill 5 or 6 it is well worth losing one or two vultures. -In TvP add factories even when it seems you cant afford it, your economy will kick in if you have good scv production. On a similar note, dont stop making scvs ever, if you expo two times and have a shit load of scvs you will have a ridiculous economy. -In TvZ its is crucial to have good turret placement, try to put turrets in your mineral line right above mineral patches and always place two directly next to each other so they can cover each other. You need 4 at your main and 4 at your expo with a group of MM in your main and a group of MM by your turrets at your natural. -In TvZ worry more about micro than macro, mm is really efficient and should be your main focus. -In TvZ dont go mech, you will lose. -In TvT academy and armory is the counter to wraiths, not engineering bay. -In TvT make a group of vultures when leas expected for harass purposes, its really annoying saving an expo from a few vultures. | ||
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Agro_Z
United States138 Posts
-If mineral are to the right of your CC, place a depot directly under your CC to force the SCV's to spawn close to the mineral patches. -SCV's attack faster if you spam attack. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On February 23 2009 06:25 Agro_Z wrote: T: -SCV's attack faster if you spam attack. False. The animation appears faster but the attack rate is the same. I believe this has been thoroughly tested. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On February 22 2009 13:09 Hypnosis wrote: Terran Tips: -In TvP when going FD do NOT lose your first two vultures, isntead lay defensive mines and keep them patrolling the map for probes. -In TvP always be annoying with your scv, it is very strong. Delaying tech builds is very important. If you see no range he is going DT, if you see late range its probably a fake and hes going proxy or DT. -In TvP when you see 14 nexus send your FD with 5-6 scvs drilled to his nat's minerals to slow his economy down. Continue with dropship harass while you macro. -In TvP try to hit his zealot army with a group of vultures to slim down the number he has, if you kill 5 or 6 it is well worth losing one or two vultures. -In TvP add factories even when it seems you cant afford it, your economy will kick in if you have good scv production. On a similar note, dont stop making scvs ever, if you expo two times and have a shit load of scvs you will have a ridiculous economy. -In TvZ its is crucial to have good turret placement, try to put turrets in your mineral line right above mineral patches and always place two directly next to each other so they can cover each other. You need 4 at your main and 4 at your expo with a group of MM in your main and a group of MM by your turrets at your natural. -In TvZ worry more about micro than macro, mm is really efficient and should be your main focus. -In TvZ dont go mech, you will lose. -In TvT academy and armory is the counter to wraiths, not engineering bay. -In TvT make a group of vultures when leas expected for harass purposes, its really annoying saving an expo from a few vultures. Alot of this advice is wtf terrible, so I'll go point by point... - If the vultures of an FD die laying mines that pressure/pushback or kill goons, then it's a totally worthwhile trade. - ????? The scv isn't that strong, also fast DT or reav can be be done with air attack / cancel once the goon kills your scv. - Where did that dropship harass part come in? You can do whatever you want (well, anything somewhat standard) if your counter works and you get ahead. - If they clump zeals, yeah do this. At higher levels, you shouldn't be able to find too many stray zeal clumps. - Don't add factories haphazardly, most 2base builds have specific times when you should add factories (see stylish's fpvods). Don't always add scvs, some builds like the 110 push need cutting. - That 4/4 number is completely situational. It depends how much inf you really have, and how vulnerable each minline is to harass. If you 4rax'd for example, you wouldn't even need 3/base. - Terrible advice. What? If your macro is bad, train it, don't try to become a macroless micro wonder. - Mech users disagree??? - Completely build dependent, there are ebay/turret builds with fast expansions that are designed to ward off early wraiths and get an econ advantage. Of course you'll need golis EVENTUALLY, else yo ucouldn't move out. Turrets aren't useless though. - This is fine, yeah. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
On February 23 2009 13:56 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: False. The animation appears faster but the attack rate is the same. I believe this has been thoroughly tested. it's true | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
it's false, test it yourself dude. | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
On February 23 2009 14:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: it's false, test it yourself dude. its false. It just resets the AI so the scv doesn't pause when the worker runs away | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Wow...pros need to figure that out so they stop wasting APM... | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32275 Posts
On February 23 2009 16:26 imBLIND wrote: its false. It just resets the AI so the scv doesn't pause when the worker runs away It prevents hit and run from probe and drones. | ||
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
On July 24 2006 20:09 JoMal wrote:
I thought I read that build commands always terminate an action queue. Anyone know if the above is correct? EDIT: LOL is asked that already on February 28 2008 19:13. :-) And the answer is yes, it works. Sorry folks. | ||
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Metaspace
Austria670 Posts
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