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The build order is:
12 hatch
11 pool
11 gas
Make 3 drones till 12 supply
Put 3 drones on gas as soon as extractor is done, should be when 12th drone pops out
Upgrade speed lings as soon as you get 100/100
Pull 2 drones from gas afterwards until you get 150/100, then put them back
Get Lair, then den, then lurkers
Basically you pump all lings no drones using all your larvas till lurkers come out, against fast expo T it is a guarenteed win even if they scout it. On pgt so far out of about ten or so games, only dream.t)sair has beaten it.
Here's are replays of Sea.Jy using it, also where I learned it from.
vs Goara[Gsp]:
http://download.yousendit.com/EF59C45D3171CEE0
Vs G.s)Gosh aka G.s)Cy:
http://download.yousendit.com/6F35CCF83F9F1BD3
vs G.s)Monster aka G.s)Kyo:
http://download.yousendit.com/372AD4E85BFF9AAF
and I'm sure Jy would've done it 100x better but here's Dream.t)Sair's build order against it:
http://download.yousendit.com/CDAD352B07962116
In the game vs Goara Jy didn't break terran's base but still managed to win by teching really fast and containing.
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I didn't see any counter for it or was that just it?
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seems nice, might be gay if the t decides too use a bunker or something, dunno. I'll try it, thanks.
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yeah it workes great on chameleon I use it and i have a good wining rating zvt ! well i use it difrent but the same idea
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Wouldnt good T´s just cancel FE and wait for tanks?
And good T are not going to attack 1 base zerg before tanks or vessels. 1 base zerg is kinda strong, imo.
I have used 12 hathexp +burrow/speedlings many times. And I find this more effective. Becuase almost every terran wants to get out with his MnM when Z just ahve 1 sunken in his expansion..
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United States10774 Posts
Those G.s) people ARE good T's.
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I love doing burrow/speedling 3 hatch these days because terran are not used to it. But if sea.jy does this build its worth my attention he he
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Osaka27156 Posts
I used you build in my first ZvT since. The terran went for a FE, and then quick tanks and bunkers as soon as he realized it was one base. Nevertheless, by the time I had 4 lurks, I also had about 30 lings, and it just ran him over.
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thats right, kill that fucker
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interesting strat..must test it out!
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What's to stop the FE Terran from having 2 SCV at ramp repairing each other? 
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It's an ok build, but it is definitely not a guaranteed win vs FE, and especially if they scout it. Good terran's will be patient, bunkering up and setting up the necessary defenses. They know that if they stop the few initial attacks, they have the upper hand.
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the thing is that if you go fast expo, you cant have the necessary defenses unless maybe if you build a bunker near ramp, even if you have 3 scvs blocking with 8 marines behind them, it can still be broken. And if terran waits till firebats come out, lurkers will already be there.
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this build is so fucking sexy i can't stand it.
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Austin10833 Posts
july used this exact build in ZvP when he played on WGT
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
This build 2v2 with a ZZ team is absolutely incredible.
:D~~~~
INCREDIBLE!
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Osaka27156 Posts
I would upload my replay to show you that it can defeat a bunker and tank, but the guy called me a fucker for being from canada, so there was a little bm right back at him. RWT is a bitch sometimes.
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Austin10833 Posts
I think we'd all enjoy some manifesto BM!
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i thought there was a way you could corrupt the text even after the game finished, it's just PP would send a notification that the txt had been toyed with >_>
On April 29 2006 19:45 BroOd wrote:
july used this exact build in ZvP when he played on WGT
i remember seeing this zvp too =O
in fact that's what i thought it was until he said T fast expo
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This build is great for pub bashing in 2v2
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You coulda won that game vs sair with better micro. Also, it's not really his "build order against it," it's just a regular tvz build order... -_-
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he got early academy vs it
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against fast expo T it is a guarenteed win even if they scout it
I like how you think that every good strat is a guaranteed win, I want to be that optimistic too.
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On April 30 2006 03:27 superjoppe wrote:I like how you think that every good strat is a guaranteed win, I want to be that optimistic too.
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I wouldn't really call that "fast academy" really, but ok, you're right.
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Belgium9949 Posts
On April 29 2006 19:57 Miss the Mark wrote:
This build 2v2 with a ZZ team is absolutely incredible.
:D~~~~
INCREDIBLE!
dont your allies' lurkers kill all of your lings ?
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On April 30 2006 10:54 RaGe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2006 19:57 Miss the Mark wrote:
This build 2v2 with a ZZ team is absolutely incredible.
:D~~~~
INCREDIBLE! dont your allies' lurkers kill all of your lings ?
Exactly what I was thinking. We 2v2'd and went like 5/1 with this build. Only thing we died to was mass ling while we were killing a toss 
It usually finished pubs before any kind of tech was necessary.
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On April 30 2006 10:54 RaGe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2006 19:57 Miss the Mark wrote:
This build 2v2 with a ZZ team is absolutely incredible.
:D~~~~
INCREDIBLE! dont your allies' lurkers kill all of your lings ?
i think the other zerg is supposed to hatch on ramp and go mutas, and just make enough lings to hold off a rush.
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EPT
