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CorruptedHero
Austria3 Posts
 ). but dunno which one should i try to practice most of the time. Iccup is really dangerous right now.(new season every high rank seems like d ranks  ) and i played in fish a couple times and everyone play at least like c rank(or i am too noob :D). brain seems a little easier i guess. Well. Any Advices for my Improving?? thx.. (my first write in tl i hope i did it in right way...) | ||
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keiraknightlee
United States301 Posts
 The foreigner to Korean ratio is pretty high, there are a lot of games at the D to D+ rank, it's clear and straightforward, and you can understand everything only by knowing English. Compared to Brain and Fish, Iccup is the nooby server...but also the most fun | ||
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CorruptedHero
Austria3 Posts
On September 08 2011 02:39 keiraknightlee wrote: Iccup for me is the best server The foreigner to Korean ratio is pretty high, there are a lot of games at the D to D+ rank, it's clear and straightforward, and you can understand everything only by knowing English. Compared to Brain and Fish, Iccup is the nooby server...but also the most funhehe thx really good advice any other ones? | ||
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Zyferous
United States270 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10333 Posts
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
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DorF
Sweden961 Posts
But if you just want simple practice games in melee mode or something, come to Op teamliquid and ask for games, there's not alot of people on there at most times but sometimes you might get lucky. | ||
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IslandMapBonjwa
Ireland86 Posts
How is the easiest and fastest way to get set up for fish/brain server's in a secure and stable manner without have to go through all the 16 pages in the thread reading "this or that wont work issues"?? Create a thread asking for someone to upload their "Anti-Hack Minilauncher ENTIRE folder" and you won't have any issues at all. Ex: One person uploads their entire folder to a file hosting site. The difficult part of getting it isn't so much of finding it, but getting it to actually open. Believe me, it is really hard to get it not to crash at least in my experience. | ||
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0mgVitaminE
United States1278 Posts
Korean Gateways Guide and it got both Fish and Brain working well for me no problems. | ||
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Elite00fm
United States548 Posts
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NationInArms
United States1553 Posts
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CorruptedHero
Austria3 Posts
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Holy Check
Romania155 Posts
First of all, there are very few people during "european hours" (19 - 01 CET) and it's not that easy to get games. Second problem is the lag. Sure some people lag more than others (you might not even be able to host games), but you are bound to have problems with koreans that just leave when they see high latency. Thirdly, it's very hard and bothersome to report hackers and you get that feeling of being screwed and not being able to do anything about it. Last but not least, and I hope I don't get banned for this, you might just get tired of how retarded koreans playing on Fish are. There, I said it. They don't or don't want to speak English; when they do it's usually random retarded BM; if they see you typing in what appears to be NON-KOREAN they will STILL spam you with korean regardless (which is epically annoying); they leave without GG; don't leave at all (Fantasy timing); they do the gay invincible drop hack and they even do gay shit like floating their buildings or hiding pylons / geysers. Disclaimer: please please don't see this post as Korean bashing or something like that. It's based on my experience with Fish and on what I've seen others go through. I'm not saying it's not hard to get games on iccup when you're above C level, I'm just saying Fish isn't the paradise people make it out to be. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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EsX_Raptor
United States2802 Posts
On September 09 2011 01:17 Holy Check wrote: ... I hope I don't get banned for this... I'd be a little more careful with the martyring there. I play on Garena because it has a more relaxed atmosphere than ICCup and much less lag issues. Although the price you pay for this is encountering lots of players at or below the D level. The highest it gets there is about B- or B. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On September 09 2011 01:17 Holy Check wrote: Last but not least, and I hope I don't get banned for this, you might just get tired of how retarded koreans playing on Fish are. There, I said it. They don't or don't want to speak English; when they do it's usually random retarded BM; if they see you typing in what appears to be NON-KOREAN they will STILL spam you with korean regardless (which is epically annoying); they leave without GG; don't leave at all (Fantasy timing); they do the gay invincible drop hack and they even do gay shit like floating their buildings or hiding pylons / geysers. You are on a KOREAN server, the KOREANS there are not supposed to know English, and you are supposed to type in KOREAN on those servers. It's absolutely normal that you receive Korean even if you type English first. If it's on IccUp and some guys type you a message in Korean (which you don't understand), what language will you type to reponse ? English. Why do you expect it to be different on Korean server ? Also, all other stuffs that you mentioned happened on every servers, and foreigners also do the same "gay shit" that the Koreans do, so it doesn't mean anything. | ||
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Holy Check
Romania155 Posts
On September 09 2011 03:38 kamikami wrote: You are on a KOREAN server, the KOREANS there are not supposed to know English, and you are supposed to type in KOREAN on those servers. It's absolutely normal that you receive Korean even if you type English first. If it's on IccUp and some guys type you a message in Korean (which you don't understand), what language will you type to reponse ? English. Why do you expect it to be different on Korean server ? Also, all other stuffs that you mentioned happened on every servers, and foreigners also do the same "gay shit" that the Koreans do, so it doesn't mean anything. Yes, koreans not knowing English is an issue that makes Fish less "user friendly", but I was not blaming them for that. I was blaming them for spamming, for retarded BM, for leaving without GG, for drop hacking and for doing gay shit. And that does not happen on every server: less people have dropped on me in 2 years of playing iccup than they did in 1 month of playing Fish. I've only played against a hacker once on iccup (infinite money), while on Fish I got drop hacked 4 times this week. I have rarely encountered random unprovoked BM on iccup, while on Fish it's something I deal with almost every day. But it's mostly the retarded spamming that grinds my gears. When I'm on iccup and someone types a message in korean, my thought process is like this: "hmmz, this guy is probably korean". So I type "no korean" or I ignore him. When a korean is playing on Fish, his thought process is "spam spam spam spam; this guy is typing some random characters; I'll spam some more or BM him in korean; and I won't stop no matter what". Yes Fish is a korean server and I know we foreigners are guests there and we don't have many rights. My initial post was just expressing another point of view that newcomers should take into consideration when asking "where should I start playing" and being overwhelmed with answers like "Fish; yeah Fish; play Fish it's great". | ||
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Mottz
Portugal101 Posts
On September 09 2011 01:17 Holy Check wrote: Fish (korean servers in general) is not nearly as good as people make it seem. First of all, there are very few people during "european hours" (19 - 01 CET) and it's not that easy to get games. Second problem is the lag. Sure some people lag more than others (you might not even be able to host games), but you are bound to have problems with koreans that just leave when they see high latency. Thirdly, it's very hard and bothersome to report hackers and you get that feeling of being screwed and not being able to do anything about it. Last but not least, and I hope I don't get banned for this, you might just get tired of how retarded koreans playing on Fish are. There, I said it. They don't or don't want to speak English; when they do it's usually random retarded BM; if they see you typing in what appears to be NON-KOREAN they will STILL spam you with korean regardless (which is epically annoying); they leave without GG; don't leave at all (Fantasy timing); they do the gay invincible drop hack and they even do gay shit like floating their buildings or hiding pylons / geysers. Disclaimer: please please don't see this post as Korean bashing or something like that. It's based on my experience with Fish and on what I've seen others go through. I'm not saying it's not hard to get games on iccup when you're above C level, I'm just saying Fish isn't the paradise people make it out to be. I have to agree that you sometimes needs to do CyberSex with some koreans for them to play, or they keep barraging you with more weird symbols and eventually leave the game, I get Fantasy's more often on iCCup, but on the other hand i feel the games are less cheesy and more macro oriented, out of like 30 PvT, i only got 6 fact pushed 2 times, compared to 95% of iccup players on the yellow ranks. Sharing the same opinion as most posters here, i have to say that C- is a good timing to go to fish. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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ZeroChrome
Canada1001 Posts
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Lumire
United States607 Posts
On September 08 2011 14:00 Elite00fm wrote: Just play Iccup, you'll probably get bored of sc:bw before you reach C rank anyway (it will probably take a year or so from scratch) Not even close, if you play at least a few hours a day you can reach C in like 6 months or so, and you don't even have to be C to enjoy the game.... | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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erikzbi
China43 Posts
i have friends who is playing for 3 yrs and is still D+ (cant beat C- ppl) either micro or macro | ||
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shenlong
219 Posts
It is a south american server with all types of skill levels but much easier than iccup/fish/brain. get B.net Editor and put this in Server name : Red-G Host name (Ip) : bnet.red-g.net Timezone : -4 export the registry file and open it, and it should appear on your list. Any questions, feel free to pm me : ) *Note This server is Spanish based, and you need to regrister an account on the website: http://foro.red-g.net/index.php?action=register and log in with the same acct name/pass you used for the website* | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
And anyone can create games there (cause the connection system is different, not emulation of BNet, but emulation of LAN instead). | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On September 09 2011 17:45 _Quasar_ wrote: Play on Garena, it's usually low level players, good for beginners. And anyone can create games there (cause the connection system is different, not emulation of BNet, but emulation of LAN instead). Yeah and the ping is acceptable too. | ||
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ZeKk
Sweden320 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:20 Lumire wrote: Not even close, if you play at least a few hours a day you can reach C in like 6 months or so, and you don't even have to be C to enjoy the game.... You must be talking about Protoss. Cuz it's just no way you're gonna reach C in 6 months with the other races unless you're the prodigy kid Koll. | ||
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LML
Germany1780 Posts
The problem with finding games is sometimes there for minutes, but people will often regame you, unless you are one of those people who don't regame people because they beat you in the regame or because you won and are afraid of the next game against the same player. I usually go to desktop then and go back to the channel after a minute or so and there might be people on the same rank (that problem might only occure if you are above 1100 points). And that is at my night time, so korean time around 3am-8am when I play, in day time the channel gets spammed so much it's hard to even notice people asking for games lol. | ||
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
On September 09 2011 08:09 ZeroChrome wrote: In my over 500 games on Fish I've only encountered 3 hackers and none of them were on ladder. I've never been drophacked. Koreans are generally nice and will respond in English if you tell them you don't speak Korean. If they continue speaking Korean it's probably because they don't believe non-Koreans play on the server. Games are much more late-game oriented compared to the super all-in norm on iccup. Smurfing is a lot less common due to the 30 melee game ladder requirement. Couldn't agree more. iCCup isn't bad whatsoever, but if you are ~ C on iCCup, Fish would be a way better experience overall, as per iCCup tapering off after C- nowadays. I also personally feel that Fish is extremely well-mannered, so I disagree with Holy Check's statement about them not being (although I am not good enough to seriously compete on Fish yet). If the language barrier is hard for anyone - anytime you play Koreans and they try speaking Hangul for several lines of text, you can just say: + Show Spoiler + "migug, ani hangul / korean" [ 미국, 아니 한글 ] (basically saying USA, no Korean). They will believe you and understand most of the time. I hope this helps. | ||
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LML
Germany1780 Posts
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gulati
United States2241 Posts
I just feel that we as foreigners should try, just as they try, to understand their native language a bit more. It's only the mannered thing to do in my opinion. | ||
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