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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 06:49:02
February 11 2005 05:54 GMT
#1
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?orderBy=latest
I played this game a while ago. Quick summary of game: I started off with early zealot harass and went 2gate. He made alot of sunkens and expanded, so I tried to kill his expansion, but he held me off. He basically trapped me in my base. I made a last ditch effort to break his defense and lost the game. I'd appreciate help, and answers to what I should do instead next time.
Legalize drugs and murder.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 11 2005 06:03 GMT
#2
dont waste money on carriers if u havent equal or more bases.
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Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 08:31:03
February 11 2005 08:26 GMT
#3
Hi, try reading this
http://www.battle.net/forums/thread.aspx?fn=sc-general&t=28522&p=1&tmp=1#new28522
Also, try digging around the strategy section for Pvz threads. I'm sure you'll find some that will be useful.

You lost because you're not very experienced and your opponent happened to be more experienced. I don't think tactical advice would really help you at this point. But reading around and downloading replays should give you an idea.

Your enemy took the whole map and had insane amounts of money despite the mass static D he built. You had no real forces to stop him and you didn't tech. Where are the templars? You ought to have more probes, but making 3 new nexus at one spot was very unnecessary.

So, yea, produce those units!
Nothing witty here atm
1Rush
Profile Joined November 2004
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 10:23:35
February 11 2005 10:21 GMT
#4
Holy hell, are you the worst player alive, where was your mind when you were playing this? Or were you like.. Make probe.. go take a crap... Make 3 nexus... run to the store buy some beer, take a nap.. wake up make some carriers and run them into 934959 spores...

Go buy some of this special medicine called Aderol, it helps with focus and stuff.

GL HF.. Do your BEST!

PS. Try again and if you fail SUICIDE ASAP DOOR NOB.
Anger is a gift.
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
February 11 2005 11:00 GMT
#5
not very nice of you rush
Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
February 11 2005 11:08 GMT
#6
On February 11 2005 19:21 1Rush wrote:
Holy hell, are you the worst player alive, where was your mind when you were playing this? Or were you like.. Make probe.. go take a crap... Make 3 nexus... run to the store buy some beer, take a nap.. wake up make some carriers and run them into 934959 spores...

Go buy some of this special medicine called Aderol, it helps with focus and stuff.

GL HF.. Do your BEST!

PS. Try again and if you fail SUICIDE ASAP DOOR NOB.

Your comment doesn't help. Have some manners please.
Legalize drugs and murder.
1Rush
Profile Joined November 2004
United States37 Posts
February 11 2005 11:12 GMT
#7
I'm sorry, Dear Sir, Your skill at this game we call Starcraft: Broodwar is below zero. Lets take the time to call it negitive one thousand.
Anger is a gift.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 11 2005 11:26 GMT
#8
1Rush wtf is wrong with you? He just asked for some help because he is new and lost a game, and you come in and start making fun of him. You might be better than him, and you might be better than me, but you know what? You are a fucking retard. Learn some manners, and try using them to ask for a quick death so the world may be a better place.
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
February 11 2005 11:36 GMT
#9
On February 11 2005 14:54 Ghin wrote:
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?orderBy=latest
I played this game a while ago. Quick summary of game: I started off with early zealot harass and went 2gate. He made alot of sunkens and expanded, so I tried to kill his expansion, but he held me off. He basically trapped me in my base. I made a last ditch effort to break his defense and lost the game. I'd appreciate help, and answers to what I should do instead next time.

im not going to watch the rep but from the sound of it you can mass units as normal (zeal temp goon) and add in 2-4 reavers to break though a sunk/lurk contain.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
February 11 2005 11:37 GMT
#10
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 11:41:00
February 11 2005 11:40 GMT
#11
On February 11 2005 20:37 dronebabo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2005 19:21 1Rush wrote:
Holy hell, are you the worst player alive, where was your mind when you were playing this? Or were you like.. Make probe.. go take a crap... Make 3 nexus... run to the store buy some beer, take a nap.. wake up make some carriers and run them into 934959 spores...

Go buy some of this special medicine called Aderol, it helps with focus and stuff.

GL HF.. Do your BEST!

PS. Try again and if you fail SUICIDE ASAP DOOR NOB.

hey faggot
shut the fuck up


speak for yourself loooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

edit:
both of you
loooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
February 11 2005 11:41 GMT
#12
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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 12:15:09
February 11 2005 12:13 GMT
#13
Here is a list of what I have learned from this so far:
Carriers are expensive.
I am inexperienced at Starcraft.
I suck at Starcraft.
I am a door knob.
My skill level at Starcraft is "negitive one thousand"
Reavers kill static defense.
Did I leave anything out?
edit: Where did I get the phrase static defense from? Meant to put lurker/sunken
Legalize drugs and murder.
insaneknights
Profile Joined January 2005
482 Posts
February 11 2005 12:19 GMT
#14
Ghin dont listen to 1rush. Sc is a fun game and shitheads like him are ruining the game. Just remember practise makes perfect. 1rush wasn't born with skills, but he was just born without a brain.
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
February 11 2005 12:28 GMT
#15
On February 11 2005 21:13 Ghin wrote:
Here is a list of what I have learned from this so far:
Carriers are expensive.
I am inexperienced at Starcraft.
I suck at Starcraft.
I am a door knob.
My skill level at Starcraft is "negitive one thousand"
Reavers kill static defense.
Did I leave anything out?
edit: Where did I get the phrase static defense from? Meant to put lurker/sunken

static defense works. static defense = defense that is not mobile. But to be more specific, reavers kill containment. its more difficult to use reavers to attack far away target cause a few mutas and 2 scourge = poped shuttles.
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ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
February 11 2005 12:29 GMT
#16
On February 11 2005 20:12 1Rush wrote:
I'm sorry, Dear Sir, Your skill at this game we call Starcraft: Broodwar is below zero. Lets take the time to call it negitive one thousand.


How good are you?
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
1Rush
Profile Joined November 2004
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 12:36:50
February 11 2005 12:34 GMT
#17
I would like to apolize if I sounded like a jackass, thats just my personally I guess. Anyways just play a crap load of games. and think about them and you will improve GOOD GAME nobs.

PS. ROFFLE MAYO
Anger is a gift.
Terross
Profile Joined November 2003
United States878 Posts
February 11 2005 13:35 GMT
#18
On February 11 2005 20:12 1Rush wrote:
I'm sorry, Dear Sir, Your skill at this game we call Starcraft: Broodwar is below zero. Lets take the time to call it negitive one thousand.


stfu
I am Joe oO;
evanthebouncy
Profile Joined November 2004
China491 Posts
February 11 2005 14:02 GMT
#19
On February 11 2005 21:13 Ghin wrote:
Here is a list of what I have learned from this so far:
Carriers are expensive.
I am inexperienced at Starcraft.
I suck at Starcraft.
I am a door knob.
My skill level at Starcraft is "negitive one thousand"
Reavers kill static defense.
Did I leave anything out?
edit: Where did I get the phrase static defense from? Meant to put lurker/sunken


dont beat yourself up man, i never do that, be humble and stand up tall! look at me! *smiles* Get to a good channel where ppl are friendly and practice practice practice 10 times a day, you will be good in no time :O
dont make 3 nesux, make one
make alot of gates, mass zealot MASS MASS MASS GOON MASS TEMPLAR O YEAH! templar rox, just storm the hell out of them
put some unit at potential bases, when he expand, KILL IT!

:D
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Szejhulud
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland73 Posts
February 11 2005 16:36 GMT
#20
Hheheeh, guys go watch the rep. I think it was hilarious bloodbath lol.
What do you despise? By this are you truly known.
EchoOfRain
Profile Joined November 2004
United States516 Posts
February 11 2005 17:21 GMT
#21
one more thing about templar. In PvZ bring more than 6 templar with you is pretty much pointless. There is no way to deliver that much storm before the battle is over. You are better off making archons when you have 5 or so mobile templar (templar that you dont have to leave at your base for defense).
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 11 2005 20:59 GMT
#22
On February 11 2005 20:40 mrmin123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2005 20:37 dronebabo wrote:
On February 11 2005 19:21 1Rush wrote:
Holy hell, are you the worst player alive, where was your mind when you were playing this? Or were you like.. Make probe.. go take a crap... Make 3 nexus... run to the store buy some beer, take a nap.. wake up make some carriers and run them into 934959 spores...

Go buy some of this special medicine called Aderol, it helps with focus and stuff.

GL HF.. Do your BEST!

PS. Try again and if you fail SUICIDE ASAP DOOR NOB.

hey faggot
shut the fuck up


speak for yourself loooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

edit:
both of you
loooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


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Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-11 23:04:47
February 11 2005 23:04 GMT
#23
Ghin, the truth is, your play was just so poor that there's really nothing anybody can say that will help you improve any faster.

You lack basic motor skills.

Not only that but it appears as if you are a member of Clan Overdosed? That's probably the single least-respected clan among communities like this. We're respectable, we're legitimate, and Overdosed and the (OD) tag represent the complete opposite of that.

I really doubt this forum is for you. This forum is for people who respect and love the game of Starcraft.
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Ghin
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-12 01:13:45
February 12 2005 00:53 GMT
#24
0D not OD
different clan
edit: and yes, thank you for insulting my motor skills.
Legalize drugs and murder.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
February 12 2005 02:24 GMT
#25
Ghin, don't feel bad about asking for help, it's totally legitimate and haters who diss are good for nothing. Just keep plugging. Your play on the whole was obviously pretty inexperienced, you did a lot of things that more experienced players would never do and failed to do a lot of things more experienced players would have done, which has already been pointed out. Anyways, just wanted to apologise on behalf of the SC community for the fags who flamed you pointlessly.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
SexyMedic
Profile Joined November 2004
United States282 Posts
February 12 2005 02:50 GMT
#26
He wasn't outright insulting your motor skills. Starcraft is not just about strategy. It requires precise movements and multitasking. Until that ability develops you won't be able to execute any of the strategies you see in replays.

You just need practice and more experience. Any one saying build x amount of this or use y of this is not going to help you at this point.

Just play alot of games, preferably on pgt tour and on good maps. It makes a huge difference; it requires you to really think about your play. Lose a lot and analyze your replays.
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ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
February 12 2005 11:42 GMT
#27
Ghin - I think you just need to play more to get some more experience. Like playing against a comp until you can consistantly beat it. After that, try adding in more comps, until you can beat those. Learn what to use as each race against the comp's race, so you can apply that to real games against humans. Of course, the comps will obviously play different than humans (T comps go MM against P, while humans go metal [usually]), but it should teach you the basics - managing economy, speeding up your mouse and being more accurate, hotkeying, basic unit micro, macroing, etc.
Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
February 12 2005 12:22 GMT
#28
go bak to mexxico bich
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