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Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 14 2010 10:15 GMT
#41
On January 14 2010 19:09 AttackZerg wrote:
Also palm grip will lead to your wrist hurting after long sessions while fingergrip and claw won't (due to less weight being pressed from wrist-> mouse.)



That doesn't make sense. The weight is still there. You either rest your hand or you use force to 'pull' it up using your lower arm.
How does your hand get tired exactly because you rest it?

And it looks to me that Kwanro's hand does touch the mouse.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 14 2010 10:15 GMT
#42
using palm will force u to move ur entire arm if u wanna move up or down. using fingers only will give u full mobility without ever having to move ur arm. when i move the mouse down it automaticly gets grip but in natural position its finger
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 14 2010 10:18 GMT
#43
You can move up/down using claw grip without moving your arm.
R4ptur3d
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada206 Posts
January 14 2010 10:19 GMT
#44
On January 14 2010 18:56 Glaucus wrote:
Your fingers drag on the ground if you use palm grip? All normal mice are designed solely for palm grip. How do your fingers drag on the table? Palm grip doesn't mean you don't use the fingers. It means you rest some of the weight of your hand on the mouse. With claw grip you arc your fingers differently to move the mouse more with your fingers and as a result you don't put much weight on your mouse anymore.

You can't really see the difference between palm and claw grip since it's more about how you transfer force rather than how you position your hand. But finger grip should be very clear to see. So can someone find a video of a progamer that uses finger grip?

Well my fingers might be dragging when i palm because my mouse is a Death Adder, but my hand is kind of big. I just find it uncomfortable if my fingers are touching my mouse pad at all. When i claw I dont have my palm even touching the mouse, and its not a fingertip because my fingers are still arched at the front.
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 10:23:04
January 14 2010 10:21 GMT
#45
fingertip I believe. I think I used palm before, but once I switched to razer deathadder I felt like I had to change it to fingertip. ATM it's pretty much the same thing. I used palm grip to reach my highest rank, after that I didnt play iccup to higher ranks anymore. However, I feel like I'm better than then, so you might as well add my score to both palm and fingertip lolz

A- (around 9100)
oob
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden630 Posts
January 14 2010 10:22 GMT
#46
Claw grip
C- (3200)
Happiest man on earth
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
January 14 2010 10:24 GMT
#47
On January 14 2010 18:34 Alur wrote:
Interesting thread, if people don't mind, another thing i would like to know about is the size of people mouse compared to their hand. Lets just take the length of the mouse and compare it with the distance form your wrist to the tip of your middle finger. My hand is like 2x the size of my mouse.

Fingertip
C- 3100 (highest)


oO. Big hands. Know what that means...

My hand is just under 1.5x my mouse length...

Well that's embarassing.

Using the alienware version of the Intellimouse Explorer 3.0A
[DUF]MethodMan
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany1716 Posts
January 14 2010 10:24 GMT
#48
palm
C+ (5900)
(couldve gotten higher in my "prime" but im not a real laddering guy and as my ratio tends to drop i stop playing :/)
JacobDaKung
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Sweden132 Posts
January 14 2010 10:24 GMT
#49
fingertip
C- ~3200
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 14 2010 10:24 GMT
#50
If you read that Razor page you will see like 5 of the palm grip responses mention they use deathadder specifically. None of the finger grip mention deathadder.

I guess you palm grip wrongly.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
January 14 2010 10:25 GMT
#51
On January 14 2010 19:15 Glaucus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 19:09 AttackZerg wrote:
Also palm grip will lead to your wrist hurting after long sessions while fingergrip and claw won't (due to less weight being pressed from wrist-> mouse.)



That doesn't make sense. The weight is still there. You either rest your hand or you use force to 'pull' it up using your lower arm.
How does your hand get tired exactly because you rest it?

And it looks to me that Kwanro's hand does touch the mouse.



You have to move your army around if you use that grip rather then gently resting it on the table on your knob-wristbone and that preasure from that grip on your wrist causes pain ...
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
January 14 2010 10:26 GMT
#52
Claw Grip
D+ 2300
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
January 14 2010 10:26 GMT
#53
Preferred Grip: "The Fingertip Grip"
Best iCCup Ranking: B-/B, ~7000

(afaik the fingertip thingy is simply one of the fastest and most accurate ways for people who play with high sensivity. For the others you have to move your hand which leads to slightly overall more accuracy but way less overall speed. I got my "style" from Q3 and later some CS, the guys who didn't use their fingertips were the ones with low sense, huge mousepads and like huge movements. Have seen less and less people play like that nowadays.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
January 14 2010 10:26 GMT
#54
Fingertip
D+ 2400
We make signature, then defense it.
Deleted User 48059
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
86 Posts
January 14 2010 10:28 GMT
#55
Fingertip grip,
D, ~1500
APM 75-80
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
January 14 2010 10:29 GMT
#56
Fingertip
C ~4500
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 18:01:10
January 14 2010 10:31 GMT
#57
The Fingertip Grip, I am not to sure. Originally I thought palm but I think it is finger instead.
C+ ~5100
Race Zerg
APM: ~200
I pwn noobs
R4ptur3d
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada206 Posts
January 14 2010 10:36 GMT
#58
I don't care if i palm wrongly anyway since I claw!, but my hands are big enough to crush a baby's SKULL! maybe that is why they touch the mouse pad.
Glaucus
Profile Joined June 2009
479 Posts
January 14 2010 10:36 GMT
#59
On January 14 2010 19:25 AttackZerg wrote:
You have to move your army around if you use that grip rather then gently resting it on the table on your knob-wristbone and that preasure from that grip on your wrist causes pain ...


You don't need to move your arm except a little if you move up or down or switch to claw grip.

If you suffer from pain I guess you have carpel tunnel or something.
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
January 14 2010 10:37 GMT
#60
Fingertip
C- ~3200
T
APM ~150
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