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Mouse Grip and iCCup Ranking Survey

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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:05:23
January 14 2010 09:00 GMT
#1
Right now I am trying to gather data to determine the following:

(1) What is the most popular way for Starcraft players to hold their mice?
(2) Is there a correlation between mouse grips and performance on a large scale?

In this thread, I only ask for two pieces of information:

(1) The mouse grip that you use. Please choose one of the following:

(A): The Palm Grip

"The most commonly used method to hold a computer mouse is what is known as the 'palm grip.' This method involves the user placing his entire hand onto the top of the mouse, resting his palm and the pit of his hand on the rear of the mouse’s shell. The mouse is held and controlled by the user pinching his hand together to hold the mouse between his thumb, the heel of his palm and his ring or pinkie fingers. The index and middle fingers are usually placed fully on the left and right mouse buttons respectively. A slight variation of the palm grip style is where the pinkie finger is used as the right side stabilizer to hold the mouse, with the index, middle and ring fingers placed on the left button, scroll wheel and right button respectively.

The palm grip is defined by the fact that the entire surface of the user’s fingers and palm make contact with the surface of the mouse and the contact points on the mouse are large and undefined."

(B): The Claw Grip

"The claw grip is another style of holding a computer mouse that requires a user to arch his hand and form a claw shape, pulling the mouse in so the rear end of the mouse is stabilized by barely touching the pit of the user’s hand.

The claw grip is defined by the fact that six contact points are made on the surface of the mouse."

(C): The Fingertip Grip

"The fingertip grip is considered to be a subset of the claw grip, where the user grips the mouse solely with the tips of his fingers. While this grip style strictly speaking falls within the ambit of the claw grip subset, it is a popular grip, particularly amongst proponents of certain genres of games, thus elevating it to the status of a primary grip style for gameplay. Unlike the claw grip, the hand is moved away from the rear of the mouse as the user is not concerned with stabilizing the rear of the mouse in his hand and wants increased precision and control of the mouse on the mousing surface instead.

The fingertip grip is defined by the fact that there are five contact points made on the surface of the mouse. Note that the sixth contact point found in the claw grip is no longer present (i.e. contact with the pit of the hand), which is a defining factor of the fingertip grip."

(2) Up until now, your best iCCup ranking. DON'T LIE. Please post both the letter value (D- to A+), and the number value. You can guesstimate for the number value if you wish.

I am going to compile the information so please follow the following format (or something somewhat resembling it) as it will make my job a lot easier.

Preferred Grip: "The Fingertip Grip"
Best iCCup Ranking: C-, 3400

Unfortunately the greatest challenge to the data is the fact that people living in the Korea timezone have a far harder fight for points than people living in the West. If you don't believe me, stay up late one night and play during prime time in Korea. I guarantee that if you earned your ranking in another timezone, you won't come out of a couple of hours of play ahead.
JeanGuy
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada18 Posts
January 14 2010 09:03 GMT
#2
Palm grip
B ~7200
yarkO
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:40:25
January 14 2010 09:06 GMT
#3
fingertip
d+ (peak ~2500)

have not been playing seriously for very long
When you are prepared, there's no such thing as pressure.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
January 14 2010 09:08 GMT
#4
On January 14 2010 18:06 yarkO wrote:
fingertip
d+


And the number value? I am going to use numbers to create a better average.
ven
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:20:26
January 14 2010 09:09 GMT
#5
Is there a hybrid? Like using the entire hand for wide movements and only the fingertips for small ones?
You can reach the rainbow. I'll be there to help.
XThunderyX
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States367 Posts
January 14 2010 09:11 GMT
#6
Fingertip Grip
D - 1300ish?
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
January 14 2010 09:18 GMT
#7
fingertip

C- 3500
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:19:47
January 14 2010 09:19 GMT
#8
Fingertip, C-

3200ish?
esq>n
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7533 Posts
January 14 2010 09:19 GMT
#9
Fingergrip
b- (highest rank is 7100 but b- is real rank)
Marimokkori
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States306 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:27:42
January 14 2010 09:23 GMT
#10
Fingertip
C+ ~5200


EDIT:

Pictures of grip explanations (taken from razerzone.com)

Palm
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Fingertip
+ Show Spoiler +

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Claw
+ Show Spoiler +

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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 14 2010 09:23 GMT
#11
Fingertip
D 1500
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
January 14 2010 09:24 GMT
#12
Fingertip, d+, 2125
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Methos
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States206 Posts
January 14 2010 09:25 GMT
#13
fingertip D+ 2050
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
January 14 2010 09:27 GMT
#14
Fingertip

C ~4800
deL
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Australia5540 Posts
January 14 2010 09:28 GMT
#15
Fingertip
D+ @ 2300
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 09:44:25
January 14 2010 09:29 GMT
#16
fingertip a 11800

looks like everyone is playing with the fingertip style ^^

a long time ago i was playing with palm grip but now when im a competitive gamer my mouse speed is on max (900 dpi) so im forced to play with fingertips only
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
KimchiFriedRice
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada237 Posts
January 14 2010 09:29 GMT
#17
Palm,
C- ~3700
I will shove Kimchi up your ass and watch you writhe in pain.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 14 2010 09:34 GMT
#18
Interesting thread, if people don't mind, another thing i would like to know about is the size of people mouse compared to their hand. Lets just take the length of the mouse and compare it with the distance form your wrist to the tip of your middle finger. My hand is like 2x the size of my mouse.

Fingertip
C- 3100 (highest)
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sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
January 14 2010 09:35 GMT
#19
palm

D+ ~2200
Majk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden146 Posts
January 14 2010 09:36 GMT
#20
Fingertip Grip
D+ ~2500
Race: Protoss
APM: ~120
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