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preacha
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway210 Posts
January 13 2010 15:55 GMT
#41
then what is the safest bo? its seems there are several takes on that - or it would seem there are plenty of safe builds you could eventually go for.
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Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 17:23:50
January 13 2010 17:17 GMT
#42
Quite right, but look around and you'll find several takes on pretty much anything.

Look, the safest build is to mass unit and cannon ramp/choke.
But that's also a terrible idea because more often than not you will fall way behind on economy.
The real question here is what is the safest build that allows for a relatively quick expansion.
And that is just another way to ask what the best all around build is.

Chances are the op is kinda bad and doesn't know what he wants. The answer is obvious for him if he finds himself good later on, but not good early on. Expo later so you can have more stuff early...doing whatever build.

As for cannon pvp, going for some kind of 2gate cannon expo build is quite safe, and it is an interesting build since it is so little done, but I don't think its any better overall than an ob build.

As for commentators, most are not especially good at playing sc and don't have especially good strategical knowledge. diggity, klazart, moletrap, kenny, husky, colera, rise, psyonic...they are like c- or worse? Oh well, you are not going to get brilliant analysis, and even the other known commentators are often not going to give strong analysis. But at least you will get some decent commentary.
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siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
January 13 2010 17:21 GMT
#43
Stop white-knighting mediocre youtube commentators.
Knickknack
Profile Joined February 2004
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-17 03:56:33
January 13 2010 17:47 GMT
#44
Siv00 jumps in with some arcane online-term, as if that means something.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?teks.rm=white knighting
It does not even seem to hold true, as I gave a reasoned response, not just jumping to the aid of someone.
Disgustingly wrong and you add nothing of substance to this thread.
I have no problem with you getting banned for two weeks.
That is, you should, but TL has nearly no modding of strat forum.

Adding to the thread:
pvp 3gate goon/ob is sometimes safer than 2gate reaver/ob.
pvt 2gate goon to dt is sometimes safer than goon-ob or just goon.

to bellow:
1)if you meant it to bravenew world use the quote function. It would have been understandable then, if still pretty useless comment.
2) someone that did not contribute to thread at all telling me not to derail, ah ha.
3) my response remains reasonable and not white knighting.
4) don't post in strategy forum again.
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siv00
Profile Joined September 2009
261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 18:44:02
January 13 2010 18:34 GMT
#45
Next time devote the majority of your post to the thread subject rather than to continue a derail. Your response was hardly well reasoned + my post wasn't directed at you alone.
GeMicles
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada307 Posts
January 17 2010 03:49 GMT
#46
For PvZ: either fast forge FE or a 2 gate rush. But you sound like you like mid/late game vs any race so go a fast forge FE
For Pvt: go one gate core tech into reaver or dt drop or (if you want to go for a cheesier build) 2 gate fast range goon
For PvP: 2 gate rush or 1 gate core tech into reaver drop
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
January 17 2010 05:31 GMT
#47
On January 11 2010 01:36 exeexe wrote:
i didnt say forge cannon was better than reaver obs but i said it was safer. As we all know every decisions has its drawbacks, but this guy wants the most safest, not the most durable.

You are still wrong. going cannons instead obs is not more safe at all..
benutbutter
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States66 Posts
January 17 2010 06:15 GMT
#48
I fail to see how knickknack is derailing the thread in anyway besides the rather short remark about siv00.

Anyways I personally like

PvP: 1 gate core, getting a robo, obs, 2nd gate, then reaver, and expanding
PvT: 2 gate range obs
PvZ: Forge FE

To be honest, I'm not very good, and I'm not even sure if these are that safe.
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
January 17 2010 06:35 GMT
#49
How would forge cannon be safer in PvP than obs? This is silly. Even if this were true, I would still go obs anyway because it's a smoother transition into Reaver, and Forge/Cannon is a resource sink and a tech dead-end. At least once you have Robo down and obs out, you are well on your way to shuttle/Rvr.
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
January 17 2010 06:36 GMT
#50
On January 14 2010 02:47 Knickknack wrote:
Siv00 jumps in with some arcane online-term, as if that means something.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?teks.rm=white knighting
It does not even seem to hold true, as I gave a reasoned response, not just jumping to the aid of someone.
Disgustingly wrong and you add nothing of substance to this thread.
I have no problem with you getting banned for two weeks.
That is, you should, but TL has nearly no modding of strat forum.

Adding to the thread:
pvp 3gate goon/ob is sometimes safer than 2gate reaver/ob.
pvt 2gate goon to dt is sometimes safer than goon-ob or just goon.

to bellow:
1)if you meant it to bravenew world use the quote function. It would have been understandable then, if still pretty useless comment.
2) someone that did not contribute to thread at all telling me not to derail, ah ha.
3) my response remains reasonable and not white knighting.
4) don't post in strategy forum again.

ROFL owned. I was about to say the same thing but you said it better than I likely would have. I really detest people like this.
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