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Hwaseung Oz's ToSky Decides to Retire

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United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 13:40:14
July 11 2009 08:25 GMT
#1
Hwaseung Oz's ToSky Decides to Retire
"He plans on joining the army after he retires"

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Hwaseung Oz’s senior player (Z)ToSky has made the shocking decision to retire.

Tosky debuted in 2005 on the earlier team of Hwaseung, Plus and though he was never able to grab any titles, as one of the team’s senior players, he has made a huge difference for the team up until now.

Tosky, who was a progamer for 5 years, was unfortunately unable to accomplish any significant results to garner attention and after being in a continual slump, made the decision to retire, revealing his plans to take a short break afterwards before enlisting into the army.

Hwaseung’s Coach JoJungOong stated, “We’ve debated a lot about his possible retirement and ultimately, I decided to respect his decision” and “We also thought about him becoming a coach but decided to discuss it more after he has finished his time in the army. After he has finished his service there, I will actively help him decide what he wants to do next”, revealing his disappointed feelings on Tosky’s retirement.

Tosky who has decided on retirement stated, “Not being able to deliver results for such a long time ultimately lead to a decrease in interest for the game” as his reason for retirement and added, “At first Coach Jo was completely against my plans but he eventually decided to respect my decision. There was also talk about becoming a coach but I’ll make my final decision on that after we discuss it further after my service in the army”.

Tosky continued on saying, “My teammates were also very upset but because I can still personally see them for a while, I hope they won’t be too sad” and encouraged his team by saying “I hope Hwaseung will continue to show great performances”. He then said, “I knew once I retired a lot of weight would fall on Dongrae’s shoulders so I was so sorry” and continued “I hope he continues to wholly fulfill his role as captain of the team and lead them forward”, revealing his apologetic feelings.

Tosky added, “My younger brother (Z)Calm was very much against my decision but now he’s come to understand me” and “I hope my brother who has qualified in the MSL does well and that Hwaseung is able to win the proleague”, cheering for both his brother and team.

Lastly, Tosky said “Though I haven’t performed well for such a long time, I want to thank the fans who cheered for me regardless. I have nothing but sorry feelings for leaving like this but I promise when I return I will show a much better image of me”, sending his last greeting to his fans.

Hwaseung revealed they will hold a farewell party for Tosky on the 13th, when they have their last game of the season.



Source: fomos.kr

Hope he serves well and comes back as a coach in the future~

Please let me know if you spot mistakes/feedback is greatly appreciated!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
July 11 2009 08:28 GMT
#2
;_; Good luck to him in the future.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 08:32:11
July 11 2009 08:31 GMT
#3
i don't see this as shocking, i saw it coming for ages.
pretty sad though, iirc, he was hyped up to be the next big zerg for lecaf in 2006, but unfortunately a man called jaedong came.
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Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 11 2009 08:31 GMT
#4
Damn I never knew ToSky and Calm were brothers

Sorry to see him go. I remember right after he won against Canata 2-0 in GOM TV that he actually had the #2 highest ZvT ELO in the world (behind Jaedong) simply becuase he didnt play any other games, haha.

Too bad he didnt use his brotherly influence to bring Calm over to Hwaseung
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fnaticNoname
Profile Joined January 2008
India858 Posts
July 11 2009 08:32 GMT
#5
Good luck to him
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66248 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 08:34:10
July 11 2009 08:33 GMT
#6
Wtf ToSky and Calm were brothers? Didn't know about that...

Kinda sad to see old players like him who never get to play in Proleague and end up just fading off.

Good job on the translation
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
July 11 2009 08:37 GMT
#7
i remember lilsusie mention about him being calm 's bro

best luck to him he is one of the old player from hwaseung all the way from plus team haha

him anytime dongre ,,, now only dong
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
July 11 2009 08:44 GMT
#8
On July 11 2009 17:33 konadora wrote:
Wtf ToSky and Calm were brothers? Didn't know about that...

Didn't know that as well. ToSky? Wasn't he part of [S.G] team @ USWest? He played pretty good but was always an average progamer.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 11 2009 08:46 GMT
#9
dang bummer, hopefully he can enjoy whatever he does next after progaming too
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Australia1764 Posts
July 11 2009 08:48 GMT
#10
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?
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Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 11 2009 08:49 GMT
#11
good luck to him in the future!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 11 2009 08:57 GMT
#12
Wow I didn't know that ToSky and Calm were brothers :O.

Best of luck you to ToSky!
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Profile Joined July 2008
United States49 Posts
July 11 2009 09:09 GMT
#13
heh i was wondering if that was a picture of Calm when i first saw it. ah, but that's a sad reason to see someone retire :/ i hope he has a worthwhile time in the army and finds something he enjoys doing in the future.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
July 11 2009 09:09 GMT
#14
Not all progamers can be league winners. Just being part of OZ is a contribution and an achievement already. Good luck with military service ToSky!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
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Last Edited: 2009-07-11 09:21:08
July 11 2009 09:10 GMT
#15
Good Luck to him.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
July 11 2009 09:15 GMT
#16
Never have heard of him before tbh
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 11 2009 09:21 GMT
#17
o.o Seriously no idea tosky and calm are brothers..
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Profile Joined May 2003
France105 Posts
July 11 2009 09:26 GMT
#18
It must be hard to be a oz zerg. Because of the 3 races rule in proleague and given Jaedong is always playing, it's almost impossible for them to play. This must leed to a lack of motivation, and without motivation there is no way they will work harder, make progress .....and play a proleague match. And being stomped by jaedong all the day doesn't help.
Calm has been luckier in Soul, with great teamate to train with and way more occasions to play in proleague, he became a true monster.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
July 11 2009 09:30 GMT
#19
By the time he finishes his military service sc2 will probably be out, so there's not much luck for him being a bw coach, and I dunno if you can go from being a bw progamer to a sc2 coach in a heartbeat.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
July 11 2009 09:34 GMT
#20
I believe Calm said thank you to ToSky for helping him practice in an interview once and he said "thanks to my brother Jung Hwan" ... Maybe that wasn't translated since it happened quite a while ago.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 11 2009 10:01 GMT
#21
On July 11 2009 17:33 konadora wrote:
Wtf ToSky and Calm were brothers? Didn't know about that...

29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
July 11 2009 10:15 GMT
#22
On July 11 2009 17:25 Smix wrote:
.

Tosky who has decided on retirement stated, “Not being able to deliver results for such a long time ultimately lead to a decrease in interest for the game”


this makes me although it makes sense and i understand. hardcore players keep going and play for the love of the game.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 11 2009 10:16 GMT
#23
It's always sad to see a progamer go...):
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
July 11 2009 10:35 GMT
#24
not surprised. GL in the future
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Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
July 11 2009 12:36 GMT
#25
On July 11 2009 17:31 Atrioc wrote:
Damn I never knew ToSky and Calm were brothers

Sorry to see him go. I remember right after he won against Canata 2-0 in GOM TV that he actually had the #2 highest ZvT ELO in the world (behind Jaedong) simply becuase he didnt play any other games, haha.

Too bad he didnt use his brotherly influence to bring Calm over to Hwaseung

It was #3.

Bah, this sucks. :/

Hope he comes back to coach later.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
July 11 2009 14:44 GMT
#26
On July 11 2009 17:48 Marine50 wrote:
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?


tasteless and day9. they're popular enough, right?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 11 2009 15:06 GMT
#27
wtf brothers?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
July 11 2009 16:07 GMT
#28
I'm pretty sure the ToSky-Calm relationship is making many people shit bricks.

I, for one, shat bricks when I read that line.

o.o
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SlayerS_`HackeR`
Profile Joined November 2008
United States190 Posts
July 11 2009 18:23 GMT
#29
its sad to see failures like this retiring
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Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
July 11 2009 18:32 GMT
#30
It's a pity that JD was too good to allow for any depth in the Oz lineup. ToSky probably got tired of getting manhandled in zvz practice.
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Profile Joined February 2009
Canada719 Posts
July 11 2009 18:33 GMT
#31
it would be nice to see him in ACE, especially if he takes a break first and gets some interest back. doing badly and losing interest because of it is a horrible downward spiral to be in, props to him for doing what he has to do to get himself out of it.
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Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-11 18:38:31
July 11 2009 18:38 GMT
#32
It's pretty sad because I too was interested in Tosky's high ZvT ELO and wanted to see some of that old level but I saw it coming after Gom S2.

On July 12 2009 03:23 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote:
its sad to see failures like this retiring

Arf
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Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
July 11 2009 19:09 GMT
#33
I wonder what ToSky's career would have been like if he hadn't been so overshadowed by Jaedong's rise and success.
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France621 Posts
July 11 2009 19:40 GMT
#34
Good luck to him
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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 11 2009 21:41 GMT
#35
good luck ~ Calm will bring him the MSL title maybe!
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
July 11 2009 21:44 GMT
#36
Didn't really know him but the best of luck to him.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada902 Posts
July 11 2009 21:51 GMT
#37
I guess I could have seen it coming, sad though. I really liked watching him play, he was my favorite player t.t
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United States8123 Posts
July 11 2009 23:52 GMT
#38
On July 11 2009 23:44 29 fps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2009 17:48 Marine50 wrote:
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?


tasteless and day9. they're popular enough, right?


upmagic and sangho are twin brothers
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
July 12 2009 11:37 GMT
#39
Who cares?
A minor progamer leave..c'est la vite
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Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
July 12 2009 11:54 GMT
#40
On July 12 2009 08:52 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2009 23:44 29 fps wrote:
On July 11 2009 17:48 Marine50 wrote:
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?

tasteless and day9. they're popular enough, right?

upmagic and sangho are twin brothers

Ummmmm no? I'm pretty sure there was even a question in an interview where they asked one of the "Shin trio" (hyvaa, UpMagiC, and SangHo) if any of them were related, and they answered no.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
July 12 2009 11:55 GMT
#41
Show some respect you low post count e-peen braggers. Not many people in the world hold a progaming license. Every "average progamer" is in the top few % echelon of elite Brood War players.

If you don't have anything more to add than that to the topic, spare the keystrokes and don't post.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
July 12 2009 12:20 GMT
#42
It's always sad to see Progamers retire
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Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-12 13:40:59
July 12 2009 13:35 GMT
#43
Cool, never knew calm and tosky were brothers..
calm got the better genes..

On July 12 2009 03:23 SlayerS_`HackeR` wrote:
its sad to see failures like this retiring


On July 12 2009 20:37 LuDwig- wrote:
Who cares?
A minor progamer leave..c'est la vite



posts like that deserve to get banned
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 12 2009 17:23 GMT
#44
Always a time to move on from SC and do something else.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
July 12 2009 17:30 GMT
#45
It's always sad to see progamers retire.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
July 12 2009 19:54 GMT
#46
At least he's leaving with some sort of achievement, being part of a team that won a ProLeague Grand Final
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Poland12466 Posts
July 12 2009 20:05 GMT
#47
On July 12 2009 20:37 LuDwig- wrote:
Who cares?
A minor progamer leave..c'est la vite

you mean vie right.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 12 2009 20:10 GMT
#48
wait, does that mean that he's completely retiring or he'll try to join AirForce ACE?
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Canada2938 Posts
July 12 2009 20:18 GMT
#49
He's just retiring.
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NintendoPrincess
Profile Joined July 2009
United States50 Posts
July 15 2009 05:05 GMT
#50
On July 11 2009 17:48 Marine50 wrote:
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?


Better yet, any brothers that don't pick Zerg?

Jinnam + Jinsu, Calm + ToSky, Yarnc + Luxury = all zergies
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8123 Posts
July 15 2009 05:10 GMT
#51
On July 12 2009 20:54 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2009 08:52 Ideas wrote:
On July 11 2009 23:44 29 fps wrote:
On July 11 2009 17:48 Marine50 wrote:
any progaming brothers that don't pick the same race?

tasteless and day9. they're popular enough, right?

upmagic and sangho are twin brothers

Ummmmm no? I'm pretty sure there was even a question in an interview where they asked one of the "Shin trio" (hyvaa, UpMagiC, and SangHo) if any of them were related, and they answered no.


ah shit I coulda swore I read that in like 3 different places lol
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
July 20 2009 06:59 GMT
#52
i don't know but to me it seems he didn't play any matches for ages. i guess the last time i saw him play was in gom (season1?).
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Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51480 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-20 08:44:39
July 20 2009 08:43 GMT
#53
(T)UpMaGiC and (T)Sea.Jang are brothers and although Jang showed potential, he decided to forego a progaming career.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States801 Posts
July 20 2009 09:17 GMT
#54
thats kinda nice to take some time off, instead of playing starcraft at a grueling pace until you have to enter the army
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
July 20 2009 11:34 GMT
#55
Will he join ACE?
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