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On May 13 2009 20:25 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:21 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:13 Plexa wrote:On May 13 2009 20:09 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On May 13 2009 20:04 disciple wrote:
I have a question actually. Is there organization or smth like that, formed by the profession gamers to protect each others interests in case of smth similar to what is happening right now. wasn't kespa supposed to be the player's association in the first place? that's why they lobbied for shit like appearance fees then they decided they run the show i guess No, none of the original members of KESPA (like superdanielman) are in KESPA anymore, that's why. It was mostly made up of coaches when it was first made, and it WAS to protect the players interests. daniel was never on KESPA afaik... he was just the manager/coach of dream team->estro Oh yeah, sorry, he worked WITH the original kespa, not IN it. But it still stands that they weren't always this worthless, and did work with the players/managers to create things like drafts, licenses, courage tournaments, etc. All of the coaches of Proteams work with KeSPA... Coach Cho of CJ must be the most experienced by now? He's been the coach of GO/CJ since 02-03 i think? All the other teams have had changes in their coaching staff and whatnot
more than you think
january, stx manager (eun-dong), woongjin manager (jae-kyun) and sparkyz manager (myung-geun) have been around just as along as him.
and as much as you believe they have a 'say' at kespa, it's all down to the chairman's of the parent companies of the teams more than them.
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
What about WeMade's coach?
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Smix
United States4549 Posts
From Backho's post-game interview:
GoRush received a forfeit loss.
- I feel weird. Since the regulations were formed because of me, it almost feels like GoRush suffered a forfeit loss because of me... so I feel sorry. Because of this, even in my match against Tester I kept feeling guilty.
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On May 13 2009 20:28 konadora wrote:
What about WeMade's coach?
he's a newbie.
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On May 13 2009 20:28 Smix wrote:
From Backho's post-game interview:
GoRush received a forfeit loss.
- I feel weird. Since the regulations were formed because of me, it almost feels like GoRush suffered a forfeit loss because of me... so I feel sorry. Because of this, even in my match against Tester I kept feeling guilty.
I can't conjure any hate for backho really.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 13 2009 20:27 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:25 Plexa wrote:On May 13 2009 20:21 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:13 Plexa wrote:On May 13 2009 20:09 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On May 13 2009 20:04 disciple wrote:
I have a question actually. Is there organization or smth like that, formed by the profession gamers to protect each others interests in case of smth similar to what is happening right now. wasn't kespa supposed to be the player's association in the first place? that's why they lobbied for shit like appearance fees then they decided they run the show i guess No, none of the original members of KESPA (like superdanielman) are in KESPA anymore, that's why. It was mostly made up of coaches when it was first made, and it WAS to protect the players interests. daniel was never on KESPA afaik... he was just the manager/coach of dream team->estro Oh yeah, sorry, he worked WITH the original kespa, not IN it. But it still stands that they weren't always this worthless, and did work with the players/managers to create things like drafts, licenses, courage tournaments, etc. All of the coaches of Proteams work with KeSPA... Coach Cho of CJ must be the most experienced by now? He's been the coach of GO/CJ since 02-03 i think? All the other teams have had changes in their coaching staff and whatnot more than you think january, stx manager (eun-dong), woongjin manager (jae-kyun) and sparkyz manager (myung-geun) have been around just as along as him. Pretty sure January hasn't... she was still a progamer back then (on Khan nonetheless iirc). Didn't she compete in the Ghem TV Girl Starleague? (And maybe the MBC one ... no im pretty sure she didn't compete in that one). Wasn't sure about toona or KOR (i thought KOR had their coach changed at one point last year... mustve been something else). Other two I wasn't sure about
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On May 13 2009 20:28 Smix wrote:
From Backho's post-game interview:
GoRush received a forfeit loss.
- I feel weird. Since the regulations were formed because of me, it almost feels like GoRush suffered a forfeit loss because of me... so I feel sorry. Because of this, even in my match against Tester I kept feeling guilty.
Meh, Backho's been through enough shit 
Won't hate on him now anyways
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Valhalla18444 Posts
we must summon the mystic power of Bat Jung to smash KeSPA back in line
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On May 13 2009 20:30 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:27 GTR wrote:On May 13 2009 20:25 Plexa wrote:On May 13 2009 20:21 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:13 Plexa wrote:On May 13 2009 20:09 psion0011 wrote:On May 13 2009 20:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On May 13 2009 20:04 disciple wrote:
I have a question actually. Is there organization or smth like that, formed by the profession gamers to protect each others interests in case of smth similar to what is happening right now. wasn't kespa supposed to be the player's association in the first place? that's why they lobbied for shit like appearance fees then they decided they run the show i guess No, none of the original members of KESPA (like superdanielman) are in KESPA anymore, that's why. It was mostly made up of coaches when it was first made, and it WAS to protect the players interests. daniel was never on KESPA afaik... he was just the manager/coach of dream team->estro Oh yeah, sorry, he worked WITH the original kespa, not IN it. But it still stands that they weren't always this worthless, and did work with the players/managers to create things like drafts, licenses, courage tournaments, etc. All of the coaches of Proteams work with KeSPA... Coach Cho of CJ must be the most experienced by now? He's been the coach of GO/CJ since 02-03 i think? All the other teams have had changes in their coaching staff and whatnot more than you think january, stx manager (eun-dong), woongjin manager (jae-kyun) and sparkyz manager (myung-geun) have been around just as along as him. Pretty sure January hasn't... she was still a progamer back then (on Khan nonetheless iirc). Didn't she compete in the Ghem TV Girl Starleague? (And maybe the MBC one ... no im pretty sure she didn't compete in that one). Wasn't sure about toona or KOR (i thought KOR had their coach changed at one point last year... mustve been something else). Other two I wasn't sure about
she stopped playing in 2002-03 (around when the idea of pl started up on ogn) to manage the samsung team. so technically same time as coach cj.
toona/pantech/wemade have gone through like 4 managerial changes through their lifetime.
kor has always been the same old guy.
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On May 13 2009 20:28 Smix wrote:
From Backho's post-game interview:
GoRush received a forfeit loss.
- I feel weird. Since the regulations were formed because of me, it almost feels like GoRush suffered a forfeit loss because of me... so I feel sorry. Because of this, even in my match against Tester I kept feeling guilty.
BackHo shouldn't feel bad because of stupid regulations. :/ But it's nice to see that he's compassionate about it.
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Screw the coaches, the players must take care of this shit by themselves! Form a committee, chose a president, NaDa for example, and make of list of conditions, which KeSPa should take into consideration when organizing an event. Like airing time, schedule, typing rules, even the maps, if the majority of the players decide a given map is useless as shit it must be taken down asap...
If KeSPa are not ok with the conditions given the professionals, then the players should decide not to participate, easy as that!
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On May 13 2009 20:23 konadora wrote:UPDATE Apparently, GoRush was typing something to see if his text was in Korea or English (hotkeys don't work when in Korean, as well as he wanted to avoid typing 'ㅎㅎ' again). But instead of deleting it, he accidentally typed it.
The poor guy was trying to follow your rules you damn kespa T.T!
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Apparently "A" is very disturbing and game changing at the start of the game -_-
This is really... really poor... I Don't know how to word myself >< I don't see how they can logically defend their own rule. *shrug*
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On May 13 2009 20:25 Garnet wrote:
2009 Bacchus OSL Finals: Jaedong vs Casy
FUCK YAH
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On May 13 2009 20:34 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Apparently "A" is very disturbing and game changing at the start of the game -_-
This is really... really poor... I Don't know how to word myself >< I don't see how they can logically defend their own rule. *shrug*
When my opponents type "a" in games i frantically check the area around my base for proxies.
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Korea (South)1201 Posts
Irony. wasn't it backho responsible for this f*cking stupid gg/pp rules ?
he got benefit the most from it. so genius. lol
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On May 13 2009 20:36 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:34 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Apparently "A" is very disturbing and game changing at the start of the game -_-
This is really... really poor... I Don't know how to word myself >< I don't see how they can logically defend their own rule. *shrug* When my opponents type "a" in games i frantically check the area around my base for proxies.
yeh i too check for proxies ten seconds into a game
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
On May 13 2009 20:36 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:34 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Apparently "A" is very disturbing and game changing at the start of the game -_-
This is really... really poor... I Don't know how to word myself >< I don't see how they can logically defend their own rule. *shrug* When my opponents type "a" in games it means the opponent has a dozen ultralisks already
fixed
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On May 13 2009 20:35 DoX.) wrote:FUCK YAH
You will never know.. Any player could win by default and enter the finals..
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On May 13 2009 20:36 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2009 20:34 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Apparently "A" is very disturbing and game changing at the start of the game -_-
This is really... really poor... I Don't know how to word myself >< I don't see how they can logically defend their own rule. *shrug* When my opponents type "a" in games i frantically check the area around my base for proxies.
same here, obvious "attack move"
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