epic fail on market research from GomTV. Either their cost structure requires a set amount of users to buy at $50 (to stay alive) or they are just really bad at pricing their shit. DRM is fucken retarted, all they are doing is hurting their case for subscription. Artosis should be brought on board to talk about more technical and strategical points of the games.

Resolution does not matter, the resolution of the free viewing is fine. I recomend that GOM produce a DVD at the end of the season that can be downloaded and burned out with high resolution. The $50 (I recomend $19.99) subscription allows users to download that DVD. That is when resolution matters. DVD can be controlled to show brackets and different matches through the DVD menu. Include special sections in the DVD that are not acessible to regular subscribers/free accounts.

If they are bold, they can completely stop their free streaming with commentary from Tasteless. Force users a minimum $9.99-14.99 subscription that does not include DVD at the end of the season, rather just a high resolution account option. However, I hope they remember that Korean SC in the foreign community is built on the foundation of free vods and copyright infrignment (TL vod server).

GOMtv, you guys need to get an analyst to put all the info onto paper before you throw out a price point or start to monetize an operation. Now, if you did hire an analyst, he/she wrote a report, and recomended this plan. Fire that fuck.

JWD

United States12607 Posts

March 29 2009 14:51 GMT

#44

On March 29 2009 17:43 R1CH wrote:
Crazy DRM - you get to view stream with your subscriber info on screen all the time, and after league ends GOM can disable you even watching VOD. What a rip off!

Oh man...when R1CH posts, you know it's bad.

epicdoom

United States489 Posts

March 29 2009 15:41 GMT

#45

not worth it at all imo, lota people on gom forums who got premium ended up watching regular stream anyways

Kennigit

Canada19447 Posts

March 29 2009 15:51 GMT

#46

Dont think this is the best idea they could have come up with :\ .

theqat

United States2856 Posts

March 29 2009 16:11 GMT

#47

More than anything else, they've now fucked up by not making the videos from this morning available yet. The main reason I was willing to shell out for this--besides the fact that I had the $50 to spare--is that I can never, ever watch the games live (so my donation for HQ was wasted last season). Now they can't even get the videos up in a reasonable timeframe? I'm fairly sure it's a one-time mistake, but I'm not happy about it.

YPang

United States4024 Posts

March 29 2009 16:13 GMT

#48

this is a black store.....

MiniRoman

Canada3953 Posts

March 29 2009 16:41 GMT

#49

On March 29 2009 14:55 T.O.P. wrote:
I hope their definition of HD is at least 720p.

You realize they will still be casting Starcraft right?

Unless you really really REALLY have to see those pros in 720p glory.... this is stupid as hell. Remember how shitty ALL vods used to be back in the day? I'm amazed at the night and day difference of youtube quality vods from 09 to 07.

Terrible price for the services offered imo.

Durak

Canada3685 Posts

March 29 2009 16:57 GMT

#50

This is really, really expensive. I'd rather buy a satellite receiver for that price.

Neo7

United States922 Posts

March 29 2009 17:05 GMT

#51

50$ an hour also includes HD downloads of VODs. That's...kind of on the high side there...but downloads are nice.

Scooge

Iceland144 Posts

March 29 2009 17:47 GMT

#52

50 USD and the only added value is higher quality VODs? It's the exact production that the free stream gets, but in HIGHER QUALITY. Pay up. 50 USD please. Even more funny, in a country that pirates everything multimedia they're pushing for DMR. Give me a break.

zoy

17 Posts

March 29 2009 17:50 GMT

#53

Are today's VODS available for premium members?

Luddite

United States2315 Posts

March 29 2009 18:04 GMT

#54

wow that's crazy. Last season the price was 1$, and now they're raising the cost to $50??? Are they gonna charge $2500 next season?

Kennigit

Canada19447 Posts

March 29 2009 18:08 GMT

#55

On March 29 2009 21:41 itzme_petey wrote:
epic fail on market research from GomTV. Either their cost structure requires a set amount of users to buy at $50 (to stay alive) or they are just really bad at pricing their shit. DRM is fucken retarted, all they are doing is hurting their case for subscription. Artosis should be brought on board to talk about more technical and strategical points of the games.

Resolution does not matter, the resolution of the free viewing is fine. I recomend that GOM produce a DVD at the end of the season that can be downloaded and burned out with high resolution. The $50 (I recomend $19.99) subscription allows users to download that DVD. That is when resolution matters. DVD can be controlled to show brackets and different matches through the DVD menu. Include special sections in the DVD that are not acessible to regular subscribers/free accounts.

If they are bold, they can completely stop their free streaming with commentary from Tasteless. Force users a minimum $9.99-14.99 subscription that does not include DVD at the end of the season, rather just a high resolution account option. However, I hope they remember that Korean SC in the foreign community is built on the foundation of free vods and copyright infrignment (TL vod server).

GOMtv, you guys need to get an analyst to put all the info onto paper before you throw out a price point or start to monetize an operation. Now, if you did hire an analyst, he/she wrote a report, and recomended this plan. Fire that fuck.

Sometimes i read a post and agree with it entirely - rather than repeat what he said, i will just nod in agreement. I can't understand under what kind of business model 50$ is acceptable for market penetration when your target audience is 17-25 poor college students. Theres other ways to monitize this than flat out charging for "high res" (a 640x480 screen and colour palatte from 1998? lol).

Oh god i just realized you can't watch the VOD's after a certain date....lol come on ~_~.

Scooge

Iceland144 Posts

March 29 2009 18:09 GMT

#56

Cheap ways to add value to the 50 USD package to make it more attractive:

Premium members get to ask Tasteless questions that will be answered on air. He picks 5-10 and answers them elaborately during dead time or before another match begins.

An example would be WHY DID FLASH FD ON MAP Y INSTEAD OF SIEGE EXPAND and Tasteless would break it down in a 3 minute max bit with graphs and data. He could even ask Flash himself and include the answer in his explanation. This is pretty easy to do and adds quality content to the broadcast while giving premium members a perk.

Premium members get games that weren't broadcast during the early stages of the tournament. Record these games (with no added production or commentary to keep costs low. It could even be a replay) and make the VODs available only to premium members. Contact community commentators like Moletrap, Klazart, etc. and let them commentate on them. Cheap way to involve the community, add a ton of value and make it unique from standard users.

I'm sure there are much better ideas. Gretech didn't think this through. There's not enough value for something priced so high.

irishash

United States285 Posts

March 29 2009 18:12 GMT

#57

On March 30 2009 01:41 MiniRoman wrote:

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should watch a few VODs from 2001 and compare the quality lol

i'd probably pay a one time $50 fee for this as is, otherwise they'd have to add a bunch of stuff for me to even THINK about $50 a season, especially if i can't watch the VODs whenever i want. is this only for non-koreans?

skindzer

Chile5114 Posts

March 29 2009 18:13 GMT

#58

Too expensive. Ill pay 50 for GOM+OSL+MSL. Only for Gom ill prolly pay something like 15+/-

zincsterio

119 Posts

March 29 2009 18:22 GMT

#59

Actually I hardly watch the English commentary at all on GOM, I'd rather watch the Korean version even if I don't understand it. Tasteless' commentary has gotten old pretty fast. He always makes the joke about the "panda bear guy", I mean it's funny the first 5 times, but then it gets annoying pretty quickly. Then, he always makes jokes about "nerds", like "nerd fight" or something like that. That gets pretty annoying as well. Not to rip on him, but this level of commentary is worth hardly $5 let alone $50.

3clipse

Canada2555 Posts

March 29 2009 18:28 GMT

#60

Absurdly expensive, especially considering their costs per user of this service are negligible in compasison. $10 - $20 would be reasonable.