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[Special Event] OGN All Star Race Battle - Page 7

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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 13 2009 15:17 GMT
#121
On March 14 2009 00:05 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2009 23:34 Holgerius wrote:
On March 13 2009 23:18 7mk wrote:
On March 13 2009 21:59 Holgerius wrote:
On March 13 2009 17:08 StarBrift wrote:
The no Jaedong thing has to be due to team circumstances. Though I laughed a bit when people proposed Hiya amongst the terrans. Good record in winners league and pro league is not enough to be considered one of the best imo. If you go by that logic you could just aswell remove Stork for Free and July for Hyvaa. I hope you all see how that would be kinda wierd seing what they have accomplished recently and in the past in the starleagues.

You must be a retard if you laugh at Hiya. He really should be in there to pwn protoss. His TvP is S-class, without a doubt. 68% wins and he has beaten all six ''dragons'' as well as Much (who has ridiculous PvT). Look at his last 10: 9 wins and 5 of those were against ''dragons''.

Hes not really "laughing at hiya".. ^^
And I really like his comparison to hyvaa
he just doesnt belong to an "all star" group
he might currently belong the best skillwise but hes just not as accomplished as much as any of the other Terrans, he should at least have gotten anywhere in Starleagues to be on an all star team.

Well, how much has fake Yellow accomplished in Starleagues? He's in the Zerg all star team. I can see the point about Hiya not having All Star-status, but if Terran want to win both matchups, Hiya would've been great with his S-class TvP. Leta and Flash alone can cope with the Zerg lineup.

yarnc has been a starleague regular for years and has made it out of groups multiple times
hiya hasnt made it passed dual league yet.

hiyas good but unproven. he has impressive wins but they come off an aggressive, slightly unusual style in bo1's. he will be significantly less effective as he gets more exposure. he doesnt belong with the other players in the event.

Ok, I must succumb. Leaving Hiya out was indeed the right thing for this event, but I still consider him to be a great TvP player that would've been usefull against the dirty Protosses.

Idra, I would very much like to hear your gosu progamer opinion about Leta (he's one of my favourite players). Do you, for instance, consider him to be overrated?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
March 13 2009 15:25 GMT
#122
hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash)
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
March 13 2009 15:35 GMT
#123
On March 14 2009 00:25 IdrA wrote:
hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash)

Well, he has put up some highly creative games, like the proxy ebay->proxy fac->wraith-build against Luxury on Destination. :D That was awesome.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Origami
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States266 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-13 16:30:42
March 13 2009 15:52 GMT
#124
Anyway since no one else posted this yet, here is the map order for when people make an LR thread.

(T)NaDa <Neo Harmony> (Z)sAviOr
<Medusa>
<Andromeda>
<Colosseum II>
<Destination>
<Tau Cross>
<Sin Chupung-Ryeong>


Nada removed Return of the King
Savior removed Tears of the Moon

Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 13 2009 16:24 GMT
#125
Nada vs Savior?!?!??!?!?

HOLY SHIT EPIC!!!!!
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
March 13 2009 16:41 GMT
#126
On March 14 2009 00:35 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2009 00:25 IdrA wrote:
hes good. very solid and safe, that works well for proleague style but until he gets more creative hes not gonna have much success in starleagues, especially in series play. (or if he just gets as good as flash)

Well, he has put up some highly creative games, like the proxy ebay->proxy fac->wraith-build against Luxury on Destination. :D That was awesome.

well yeah he did start getting creative in a few games, so far only in TvZ though
And the lux series is I guess a good example for Idras point cause he lost the series despite being the mechanically superior player
ill be rooting for him to win a starleague soon though
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
March 13 2009 16:43 GMT
#127
Protoss totally has this. They won the last Race War too, iirc.
aZnvaLiaNce
Profile Joined June 2007
United States942 Posts
March 13 2009 16:56 GMT
#128
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.
Isnt that worth fighting for? Isnt that worth dying for? - Morpheus
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
March 13 2009 17:40 GMT
#129
Why there is no "Zerg" in the poll ?
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
March 13 2009 17:42 GMT
#130
protoss has this in the bag
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
March 13 2009 17:44 GMT
#131
On March 14 2009 01:56 aZnvaLiaNce wrote:
Wtf sAviOr removed ToTM from the map pool? That's a great map for zergs, against both T and P.


He probably didn't want to learn it - so far it's only been in the OSL, and Savior didn't qualify for the OSL. It's very possible Savior has never played a game on this map.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
March 13 2009 19:20 GMT
#132
On March 14 2009 00:15 Ideas wrote:It SHOULD be JD instead of Yarnc (assuming they strive to have 4 players per team).

+1

It's pretty dissapointing not having the best zerg in the game in a racewars
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
March 13 2009 19:29 GMT
#133
They should add one more player on each team. Jaedong for Zerg is the obvious choice...

Terran and Protoss seem a bit more difficult...
this is my quote.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
March 13 2009 19:31 GMT
#134
Unfortuantly i think Protoss will take this easy
P is sporting an allstar lineup with 3 of their players in KeSPA top 10
and the other in the KeSPA top 20

Kim Taekyong (Bisu) - Best Protoss player in the history of Starcraft (arguable)
Song Byungoo (Stork) - vT killer and a consistant KeSPA top 10 member
Heo Yeongmul (Jangbi) - Consistant 2nd place finishes in MSL and GOM and on way to win MSL
Do Jaewook (BeSt) - Macro beast. Dragon. Nuff said

The Terrans are sporting 2 very very scary players in Leta and Flash
NaDa stepped up his game vs Jangbi in the MSL ro8~ and Hwasin is surging for a win in the OSL

Lee Youngho (Flash) - Ultimate Weapon. Killer of Dragons. Best terran on the pro scene right now
Shin Sangmoon (Leta) - New face but absolutly kickass play. Second best Terran in the world
Lee Yunyeol (Nada) - Who doesn't know NaDa? 3 OSL 3 MSL, but old...
Jn Yeongsu (Hwasin) - Red Sniper good vs Zerg,showing some kickass play in the Batoo OSL

I am worried about the Zerg...>.< No Jaedong? I'm afraid this will be over soon

Ma Jae-Yoon (SaviOr) - He is playing with a shadow of his former skill. Still good..but not as good
Park Sung-Joon (JulyZerg) - Calling it. SLUMPPP...
Park Chan-Soo (Luxury)Park Myung-Soo (Yellow[arnc]) Both are too inconsistant but explosive players
cw)minsean(ru
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
March 13 2009 19:35 GMT
#135
Frankly it should be Jaedong not instead of Yarnc but instead of Savior or July. It should be fantasy or forGG instead of Nada probably.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
March 13 2009 19:48 GMT
#136
Protoss is going to lose to Zerg imo. Bisu has to be in top form that day and beat both July and Savior, as I'm pretty sure July can all-kill if he beats Bisu.

Terrran is going to win vs Zerg 4-2, July's ZvT is pretty bad. + Show Spoiler +
Luxury showed pretty bad ZvT vs Fantasy
. Savior vs Nada is a tossup, and Yarnc's ZvT is decent.

Protoss will wreck Terran. All the Protoss players here have over 60% win vs T.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
March 13 2009 21:01 GMT
#137
Oh the twins are playing but there JD? what!!!!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
March 13 2009 21:07 GMT
#138
All you July-doubters out there, I will laugh and spit in your face when July AK's Protoss on his own. ^^
TranslatorBaa!
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
March 13 2009 21:17 GMT
#139
Where is Jaedong???
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
March 13 2009 21:38 GMT
#140
No Jaedong ;/

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