well i dunno about professional athletes but its true alot of progamers arent as dedicated as the public sees them
the foreign public at least, dunno bout the koreans.

of course there are some that are as insanely focused as everyone thinks like lux and jaedong and some others

a-game

Canada5085 Posts

January 21 2009 06:33 GMT

#242

hmm interesting

Ace

United States16096 Posts

January 21 2009 06:37 GMT

#243

On January 21 2009 15:20 a-game wrote:
korean progamers are less professional than nba players?

i find that extremely hard to believe. korean pros practice what, 10-12 hours per day?

i can't even watch NBA the players are so damn lazy, and you know 90% of the stars barely practice at all and smoke as much weed as possible with jay-z in their off-hours. that is when they're not getting arrested for carrying a firearm in a public place or getting 5 new tattoos.

wtf are you talking about idiot.

errol1001

454 Posts

January 21 2009 06:47 GMT

#244

re: translation

It seemed like MrHoon was updating the post as he went, so I would suppose he doesn't have much more translated.

Choros

Australia530 Posts

January 21 2009 06:48 GMT

#245

This interview does show how it is more difficult for pro gamers than other professional athletes for one incredibly important reason, respect. Professional athletes enjoy significant respect infact many of them join the sport for exactly that reason however being a pro gamer even in Korea is something that is frowned down upon.

For this reason pro gamers deserve far more respect than pro athletes in any other sport, whats more they also earn less, your average NFL player earns alot of money more than even the top players in Starcraft. Pro gamers sacrifice education and a life really in exchange for what, a chance at stardom I suppose, but the gains are far less than other sports and the practice routine for more intense and the chances of being the greatest much lower, and if you do gain this than it is incredibly short lived. In NFL etc you can physically only practice so much so you inherently have significant time to rest up but in Starcraft you spend basically your entire life practicing Starcraft. Progamers are in my opinion people to be admired far more than any footballer.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

January 21 2009 06:56 GMT

#246

That is the dumbest thing I have ever read.

a-game

Canada5085 Posts

January 21 2009 06:59 GMT

#247

guys this is such a great thread (well, the OP anyways).. can you please keep the lazy flames out?

OneOther

United States10774 Posts

January 21 2009 07:02 GMT

#248

Awesome interview! Thanks, MrHoon - I know how hard it is to translate something as long as this one. Great work.

On January 21 2009 15:20 a-game wrote:
i can't even watch NBA the players are so damn lazy, and you know 90% of the stars barely practice at all and smoke as much weed as possible with jay-z in their off-hours. that is when they're not getting arrested for carrying a firearm in a public place or getting 5 new tattoos.

If you have no idea what you are talking about, please don't act like you do. NBA players, especially the stars, have to consistently practice to maintain their level and compete with other players. Or maybe even to keep their starting/roster spot. I don't know how much you were exaggerating, but my goodness, this is simply ignorant. Just because there are rare exceptions doesn't mean this is how the NBA works.

koreasilver

9109 Posts

January 21 2009 07:05 GMT

#249

On January 21 2009 15:59 a-game wrote:
guys this is such a great thread (well, the OP anyways).. can you please keep the lazy flames out?

What, should I just nod along with your absolutely goddamn ignorant statement?

Domestica

United States411 Posts

January 21 2009 07:07 GMT

#250

yeah seriously. Thank you MrHoon for translating this for us. Looking forward to the rest!!!

a-game

Canada5085 Posts

January 21 2009 07:09 GMT

#251

it's a shame this NBA derail has even lasted 5 posts and i apologize for that in advance. i'm not used to being around people who are NBA fans and so normally if i'd say something like that nobody would really care because where i'm from the NBA has only a fringe following. it's easy to forget that you're on an international board where the NBA or any other sport could be (and apparently is) pretty huge so you should be respectful for that, so for that i apologize.

back to the interview now please mrhoon did an epic translation in the OP and this thread deserves respect. i honestly didn't intend to troll so yeah my apologies =/

koreasilver

9109 Posts

January 21 2009 07:17 GMT

#252

I'm from Canada, I don't give a damn about the NBA, but who are you to say that all NBA players are lazy? How the fuck can anyone say that being a Starcraft progamer is harder than all other professional athletes?

Do you even realize how fucking minuscule the chances of becoming an NBA professional is? Don't throw shit about how people are calling you out because this is some American site. Don't use some pathetic excuse like that. I am calling you out simply because what you said is absolutely moronic.

People on this forum so often cry and throw "BM" when a lot of the time when someone gets shit thrown at them shit gets thrown at them for a reason. Don't spew bullshit if you don't want to get shit on.

NonY

8751 Posts

January 21 2009 07:19 GMT

#253

i think your description of NBA players is pretty inaccurate for the average player. especially for most of the best players. even if you have some prejudice against the NBA, then you can substitute it for any other professional league that is the best for its sport.

it's funny that you should mention practicing a lot as a way that marks them as professionals, when i think it's one of the worst things about this scene. there is an idea that more practice is better, no matter what. perhaps some people don't care what's best, and instead only what looks best to outsiders, or perhaps some are just ignorant of what's best. either way, it's very unprofessional.

anyway, in the interview, they aren't talking about practicing 10-12 hours a day. they talk about getting bad results and then seeking pleasure in girls/alcohol. that is incredibly unprofessional. it's especially bad when you consider the structure of these teams, where everyone lives together, so the people responsible for savior would know what's going on. yet it happened.

a-game

Canada5085 Posts

January 21 2009 07:35 GMT

#254

i think NBA/NFL stars drink and womanize as well, no?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

January 21 2009 07:37 GMT

#255

and you said not to derail the thread. what a fucktard.

omninmo

2349 Posts

January 21 2009 08:03 GMT

#256

On January 19 2009 14:14 MrHoon wrote:

Boxer is now a 30s gamer, how do you feel
▲ Savior: Boxer was a progamer since his 20s and now to his 30s. I am still young so there are still very many lustrous traps for me, but for Boxer to be a progamer still is quite amazing.

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Straylight

Canada706 Posts

January 21 2009 08:39 GMT

#257

This Savior/Boxer interview is a breath of fresh air from the usual "I promise to practice harder and show better results next time for my fans" rehash that most Korean progamers seem to put out. I'm glad we're finally getting some insight into what's really going on. The interview is so much more honest and straight up, I wish we had more of it.

E-sports in Korea may be the most advanced in the world and it's come a long long way but it's still a relatively young industry.

StylishVODs

Sweden5331 Posts

January 21 2009 08:48 GMT

#258

as for what a-game said, its probably true that progamers practice more than basketball players. Wouldn't it be like fysically impossible to practice some athletic sport for like 12 hours a day... You need to rest much more as the body takes more damage and gets exhausted.
I also agree with nony, practice doesn't make proffesionalism.