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Boxer and Savior Interview [Complete] - Page 12

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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
January 20 2009 20:03 GMT
#221
On January 20 2009 10:56 SentenaI wrote:
i now see why some called savior metrosexual.


Actually it was one of his aka.
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
January 20 2009 20:52 GMT
#222
Really good interview, wish more progamers would tell it like it is.
Sup
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
January 20 2009 21:29 GMT
#223
Crazy good interview, I think the brutal honesty in their answers is refreshing. Outside of all the gaming Stardom is some harsh realities. Also, thanks a lot for your translating services MrHoon. We owe you!
☺ ☻
Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States499 Posts
January 20 2009 21:48 GMT
#224
Interview says BoxeR is 30 in korean? How old is he actually on my calendar, anyone know the deal?
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
January 20 2009 21:50 GMT
#225
On January 21 2009 06:48 Xenixx wrote:
Interview says BoxeR is 30 in korean? How old is he actually on my calendar, anyone know the deal?


Koreans count the day they're born as being one year old. Therefore, he's 29.
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
January 20 2009 22:10 GMT
#226
On January 21 2009 06:50 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 06:48 Xenixx wrote:
Interview says BoxeR is 30 in korean? How old is he actually on my calendar, anyone know the deal?


Koreans count the day they're born as being one year old. Therefore, he's 29.

In addition to this, you're a year older at the beginning of a new year, rather than being a year older at your birthday.

Example:

Birthday: March 3rd, 1990
United states age: 18
Korean age: 1 (the count starts at 1) + 18 + 1 (even though it's not your birthday yet, it's new year 2009) = 20
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36399 Posts
January 20 2009 22:18 GMT
#227
To those making gay jokes, they are not funny. Stop making them.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
zzzzsleepyhead
Profile Joined January 2009
United States103 Posts
January 20 2009 22:45 GMT
#228
Thanks for posting this. It's awesome to get a better idea of what these programers experience.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 20 2009 22:52 GMT
#229
On January 21 2009 07:18 Hot_Bid wrote:
To those making gay jokes, they are not funny. Stop making them.


+1

!!!!!!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-20 22:59:48
January 20 2009 22:59 GMT
#230
mr.hoon tell me if you need some help finishing this off. I can help if you need it.
Boxer is the truth.
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 00:08:39
January 21 2009 00:08 GMT
#231
On January 21 2009 07:59 AloneInDaBunker wrote:
mr.hoon tell me if you need some help finishing this off. I can help if you need it.


Send him a PM
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
January 21 2009 00:34 GMT
#232
On January 21 2009 07:59 AloneInDaBunker wrote:
mr.hoon tell me if you need some help finishing this off. I can help if you need it.


That'd be great.
觀過斯知仁矣.
Bonjwa
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1 Post
January 21 2009 01:37 GMT
#233
Fantastic Interview thanks for posting.
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
January 21 2009 01:38 GMT
#234
great article i think both have fun on the interview
KT_FlaSh #1
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 21 2009 03:40 GMT
#235
On January 21 2009 07:59 AloneInDaBunker wrote:
mr.hoon tell me if you need some help finishing this off. I can help if you need it.

just do it yourself and post it.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
January 21 2009 04:09 GMT
#236
On January 21 2009 12:40 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2009 07:59 AloneInDaBunker wrote:
mr.hoon tell me if you need some help finishing this off. I can help if you need it.

just do it yourself and post it.

The problem is mrhoon might have already translated most of it, and it'd be a waste to do it twice.
Focht
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1 Post
January 21 2009 04:43 GMT
#237
Thanks Mr.Hoon for the translation! It was really epic. These materials are really things you can't find except in forums and due to your massive personal efforts.

I think it was really interesting how they both view success as requiring total sacrifice. I think, from talking with my Korean friends in Korea, that's very common. I think that it really dispels the idea that progamers just play video games all day and it's fun. It really is a huge amount of discipline and effort to get to this level. I remember hearing Daniel Lee say that this is why Guillaume Patry (Grrrr...) didn't get even better or stay good; he didn't have the discipline to practice enough.

But in the U.S. most pro athletes or even our best scientists, etc. don't have the single-minded devotion and focus to their chosen passion, and yet seem to achieve great results. I wonder if it's just a cultural difference that is psychological (people think that they cannot succeed unless they are utterly devoted).
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
January 21 2009 05:54 GMT
#238
kinda funny that the best players in the world have a revelation about what it means to be a professional player and to dedicate your life to something, when they've already been a "professional" for so many years. korean e-sports has a LONG way to go, and perhaps may never achieve, the level of professional attitude of a league like NBA or NFL, or even that of many collegiate athletic programs in the USA.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5209 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 07:46:03
January 21 2009 06:20 GMT
#239
korean progamers are less professional than nba players?

i find that extremely hard to believe. korean pros practice what, 10-12 hours per day?

(removed the controversial parts of this post)
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
January 21 2009 06:23 GMT
#240
they practice to get to the top. once they reach it, they don't have any more determination or drive. what else do they have to prove?
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