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ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
January 06 2009 03:15 GMT
#21
hats off to OP
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 06 2009 03:23 GMT
#22
TIme to bring back Mercury
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 06 2009 03:35 GMT
#23
On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Great post, but instead of saying
Show nested quote +
2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague – Loss to Flash in Semifinals

It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both.


Sorry, but I don't see this information. Maybe it was another tournament you are thinking of?
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
January 06 2009 03:39 GMT
#24
On January 06 2009 12:35 FzeroXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2009 12:12 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Great post, but instead of saying
2008 Bacchus OnGameNet Starleague – Loss to Flash in Semifinals

It should mention that he beat Upmagic for 3rd Place, IMO. Or list both.


Sorry, but I don't see this information. Maybe it was another tournament you are thinking of?


I believe he beat Upmagic for 3rd in EVER 2007. In Bacchus, he lost to Flash, then OGN decided to seed the top four players instead.
DebOnAire - 「 Bisu[Shield] 」
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
January 06 2009 03:42 GMT
#25

(Z) (Z)sAviOr
07-09-2006 -- 02-09-2007 (2301 Peak)
Overall Record: 38 wins - 10 losses (79.17%)
ZvT Record: 9 wins - 4 losses (69.23%)
ZvZ Record: 12 wins - 4 losses (75.00%)
ZvP Record: 17 wins - 2 losses (89.47%)
Post Peak --> 71 wins - 66 losses (51.82%)
Compared to others ELO peak. Savior's was very scary.And percents are very high.
hsoul
Profile Joined September 2007
Netherlands26 Posts
January 06 2009 03:44 GMT
#26
On January 06 2009 12:11 FzeroXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2009 11:41 hsoul wrote:
are the data from TLPD?
there must be something wrong, either incomplete or unofficial


Can you please explain what you mean?


OK, take it easy
the data cant be official, because you put GOM Classic series into them.
so the matches must be wrong.

anyway, this is still a good reference
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
January 06 2009 03:52 GMT
#27
Correct. It just includes every game entered into TLPD.. I did not take into account what leagues were active at the time or whether they were sanctioned by Kespa.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
January 06 2009 03:58 GMT
#28
Wow, Bisu has awesome stats, and Best is so dominant in vT and vP. I was expecting Stork's vP to be higher but then again with those other dragons rampaging, its tough eh... but wait, Bisu is owning vP.

Oh, and the actual Year of the Dragon is still 3 years away
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 06 2009 03:59 GMT
#29
BeSt boggles me. His micro and game sense is kinda lacking, but he just rolls over his opponents regardless.
joohyunee
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Korea (South)1087 Posts
January 06 2009 03:59 GMT
#30
just an addition: nicknames of the Six Dragons most frequently used amongst koreans:

Bisu: The Revolutionist
Best: The Brute
Jangbi: Heo-Neu-Nim (pun on the korean word for God => Ha Neu Nim)
Stork: Supreme Commander
Kal: The Joker
Free: The Emperor of Lightning
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 06 2009 04:49 GMT
#31
On January 06 2009 12:59 koreasilver wrote:
BeSt boggles me. His micro and game sense is kinda lacking, but he just rolls over his opponents regardless.

yeah seriously

I have never seen someone who loses 3 shuttles full of reavers and loses most of their corsairs
yet proceeds to run over their opponent.
dats racist
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 06 2009 09:26 GMT
#32
Hmm, as I said in the other thread you can see "better" stats if you look at some clearly defined points.

------------------------------

Bisu after losing to Stork in Incruit OSL (11.10.08) has gone 33 wins - 8 losses (80.49%).

This is much better than the 48 wins - 22 losses (68.57%) that the stats above credit him with.

------------------------------

Flash after he lost to Stork in the EVER2007 OSL (12.04.07) to right before Luxury beat him in the EVER2008 OSL (6-11-08) went on a streak of 47 wins - 14 losses (77.05%). Also with a 29 wins - 5 losses (85.29%) streak near the end of that.

Again, this is better than the 51 wins - 19 losses (72.86%) credited above.

------------------------------

Jaedong (after getting beat down by oov, nada and casy 5.26.07 to 2.14.08 3-1ing Flash in GSI) was 61 wins - 20 losses (75.31%)... with a streak of 24 wins - 3 losses (88.89%) at the end of that reign. Jaedong has also been the most consistent of the triad (Bisu, Flash Jaedong) since that time.

Very slightly better than the 46 wins - 17 losses (73.02%) credited above.

------------------------------

I'm pretty sure the oov & savior stats are fairly correct as they're at the start of the career as opposed to the middle/now like Bisu, Flash and Jaedong.. so no need for an analysis there.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
January 06 2009 09:53 GMT
#33
Nice post
There should be 3rd place results aswell
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 06 2009 10:13 GMT
#34
sick stats holy shit thanks for posting O__O
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 06 2009 10:27 GMT
#35
lol, JD post peak win ratio 65%
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 06 2009 10:33 GMT
#36
When I asked Chill for "who is the best player of six-dragons", he said: Jaedong...


LOL, I almost cried =/
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
January 06 2009 10:41 GMT
#37
Then Flash must be the dragonslayer ^-^
Great post indeed, enjoyed reading!
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
CZ4A
Profile Joined April 2008
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-06 10:59:23
January 06 2009 10:58 GMT
#38

(T)iloveoov
12-01-2003 -- 07-01-2004 (2329 Peak)
Overall Record: 48 wins - 13 losses (78.69%)
TvT Record: 19 wins - 10 losses (65.52%)
TvZ Record: 16 wins - 0 loss (100.00%)
TvP Record: 13 wins - 3 losses (81.25%)
(Note: TLPD has no evidence of a zerg loss before Julyzerg, this extends to 27-0)
Post Peak --> 162 wins - 122 losses (57.04%)


100%...
kemoryan
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Spain1506 Posts
January 06 2009 10:59 GMT
#39
And I was thinking "oh no not another dragons thread.."!
I'm impressed, nice thread!
Freedom is a stranger
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 06 2009 11:32 GMT
#40
all i see is 1 dragon and 5 paper dragons
bisu fanboy
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