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feathers
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States236 Posts
December 18 2008 05:16 GMT
#1
my friend chase hates Starcraft, I want to get him into it. How can I convince him its the best rts ever made? He likes rts games like medieval 2 total war and company of heroes, you know games with flashy graphics but no substance,but He loves age of empires 2 so I don't thinks it's the graphics that bug him. What can I show him or tell him that will change his mind about Starcraft. I just don't understand how he doesn't like Starcraft. Come to thing of it none of my friends like Starcraft.


one day I drove to his house, brought my computer, and forced him to play a game with me. heres the rep.

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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-18 05:26:06
December 18 2008 05:25 GMT
#2
Show him some famous games, Boxer's SCV rush against Yellow would be a good pick, shows a nice big crowd and a short exciting game.

(why is this in strategy?)
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
December 18 2008 05:26 GMT
#3
Show him a cool VOD or two of pros. Then play a couple 2v2s with him. Then show him some reps. Then get him to play another bad friend 1v1.
Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-18 05:36:31
December 18 2008 05:36 GMT
#4
company of heros has a LOT of substance, its a very very good RTS.

but i'd say, helping newcomers on their track play some BGH and actually let them build a base and a lota units and keep reminding them to build more workers and spend their money
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
December 18 2008 05:40 GMT
#5
Strategy forum purge is commin to get ya
+ Show Spoiler +

On topic though, show him:
Some ggs (Boxer vs Yellow for starters)
Show him something cool looking in the game such as mass carriers or something

Those 2 are my foundation for SC when my friend introduced it to me
feathers
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States236 Posts
December 18 2008 05:41 GMT
#6
can someone move this thread to the broodwar forum?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 18 2008 05:46 GMT
#7
honestly the way I got into starcraft was seeing an old fpvod of boxer and a keyboard view (thx hsidori :D)

maybe try something like that
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2008 05:49 GMT
#8
I think a better question would be, did anyone on TL not like starcraft the first time they played/saw it and what happened to make them like it?

If they didnt like it the first time they saw it, there is no way they are going to get up to a competitive level to where it is a challenge for you.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
December 18 2008 05:58 GMT
#9
It made me happy just to think about it when i first played it. amazing game
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
passby20
Profile Joined July 2008
United States47 Posts
December 18 2008 06:10 GMT
#10
M2: TW isn't an rts. Company of Heroes and AoE2 are vastly different eras than the one SC intends to portray. He may just not be into the whole "futuristic what-if" scenario, since the 3 games you mentioned are all from actual historical periods. On the other hand, SC is a world that will never exist. If you want to get him into it, try to think of a way to make it relevant to him. It's much easier to get into a game if you care about the players and can immerse yourself in the world.

I like the idea of introducing him to the proscene- show him pimp plays and put a face to them. SC will never be quite as relevant as periods with real historical context, but if you can interest him in pro players and give him a "dog in the race" so to speak, he may be more interested in playing the game himself.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
December 18 2008 06:24 GMT
#11
Probably blog section?

How we got people to play back in high school was we would just invite them to a friends house after school. Then we would just get them to play lol, didn't matter whether it was guy or girl or whether they like games. Plus once you get one girl to play it is easier to get others, even if they aren't very good. But yeah, get his friends to play and they will help draw him into it.

Imo, a big factor in playing games is whether your friends are involved. It can turn a bad game into a fun game or a good game into a great one.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
December 18 2008 06:28 GMT
#12
the fourth game of Boxer vs iloveoov Ever 2004 OSL
God damn that was pro
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 18 2008 07:22 GMT
#13
1) Invite Chase and another friend over
2) You and the other friend play an intense game of Starcraft
3) Rinse and repeat

I think I got into it because when I first played StarCraft, the only games I had played before were old SNES games and Minesweeper...
Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
December 18 2008 07:50 GMT
#14
Show him the pimpest plays 2002, thats how i got started again.
We see things they'll never see
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 18 2008 08:35 GMT
#15
For some people, they simply don't ever want to play Starcraft. I tried to persuade some of my classmates to play Starcraft, but all I kept getting were lame complaints about "shitty graphics". So now I don't ask anybody to play Starcraft with me. It's almost like someone trying to persuade me to play on one of those MMORPGs. Big turn-off.
Brood War loyalist
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 18 2008 08:52 GMT
#16
He doesnt like starcraft? Punch him in his face-______-;..
No seriously show him NaDa againgst GoRush IOPS OSL Semi Finals or the finals of.. uhm; (help me out here) the finals that were 2 weeks before the IOPS OSL Semi's where GoRush played and awesome series against NaDa too.(Bo7 even)
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Metaspace
Profile Joined November 2006
Austria670 Posts
December 18 2008 09:28 GMT
#17
Let your friend win the first few games. :-)

Wir haben zuwenig Vespingas!
himurakenshin
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1845 Posts
December 18 2008 10:01 GMT
#18
On December 18 2008 15:28 Folca wrote:
the fourth game of Boxer vs iloveoov Ever 2004 OSL
God damn that was pro


A new player might not understand the amazingness of that game since they probably don't know that bio units aren't used in TvT. But that game is so pimp, so Boxer.
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
December 18 2008 10:37 GMT
#19
I smell a troll. My advice is to bow down to Chill's law on Strategy.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
December 18 2008 11:58 GMT
#20
Hes either a new age gamer who cares only for flashy graphics, or he is a casual gamer whos not into a fast paced game.

Ive never played Company of heros, but the total war games have very little strategy and is not fast paced, but it sure is fun to watch those dudes kill each other . Thats what he enjoys, not the fast paced and hectic nature which makes starcraft fun.

To want to play starcraft, you need to have the drive to want to get good. If hes not interested in being competative, then hes most likely not going to enjoy the game.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 18 2008 11:59 GMT
#21
On December 18 2008 18:28 Metaspace wrote:
Let your friend win the first few games. :-)



the easiest advice, but not the best.

Seeing the amazingness of a video game is tough, and in some cases, impossible. Try having them watch games, and then maybe he'll realize that people love this game, and maybe he should give it a chance.
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Disarray
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1164 Posts
December 18 2008 12:02 GMT
#22
On December 18 2008 15:10 passby20 wrote:
On the other hand, SC is a world that will never exist.


never say never!


On December 18 2008 15:28 Folca wrote:
the fourth game of Boxer vs iloveoov Ever 2004 OSL
God damn that was pro


disagree. you want to ENCOURAGE them to play. (not saying that wasn't an epic game, but it was a long TvT, wich most people [ESPECIALLY people that don't comprehend all of a progame at that level] find booooring
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PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
December 18 2008 12:51 GMT
#23
Campaign and UMS are a good way to get people to know starcraft. Getting them into melee is harder IMO.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
December 18 2008 12:59 GMT
#24
show him the game 2 of JF vs Bra_OK since it's a replay.
n_n
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
December 18 2008 13:09 GMT
#25
Show him some of the best games that have been played or some good highlight videos.
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OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
December 18 2008 13:47 GMT
#26
On December 18 2008 17:52 G.s)NarutO wrote:
He doesnt like starcraft? Punch him in his face-______-;..
No seriously show him NaDa againgst GoRush IOPS OSL Semi Finals or the finals of.. uhm; (help me out here) the finals that were 2 weeks before the IOPS OSL Semi's where GoRush played and awesome series against NaDa too.(Bo7 even)

YATGK MSL
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 18 2008 14:22 GMT
#27
Find him a bunch of noobs to bash... seriously, that's the best way.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 18 2008 14:28 GMT
#28
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
December 18 2008 16:23 GMT
#29
If he likes Aoe2 that means he has nothing against micro intensive "do it yourself" games. So just tell him about the imense depth of bw and how it is difficult enough to support a pro scene etc.
(And make sure he wins games)
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
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