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Melbourne5338 Posts
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Zergs are so fucked on Moon Tear, anyone want to refute me?
Edit: Nvm, it's a pretty cool map, and it seems balanced at first impression. Nice think corridors +wide open flanky middle.
Jaedong has a doable group. Goggo Hwaiting.
Oh, for July's group, there's some lingering Korean text.
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Aww, Mind and Hwasin are in the same group. =( Thanks for posting the groups~
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Melbourne5338 Posts
On December 15 2008 10:04 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Zergs are so fucked on Moon Tear, anyone want to refute me?
Edit: Nvm, it's a pretty cool map, and it seems balanced at first impression. Nice think corridors +wide open flanky middle.
Jaedong has a doable group. Goggo Hwaiting.
Oh, for July's group, there's some lingering Korean text.
Koreans typoed and wrote Set 2 winner instead of Set 1
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Man that map looks...really interesting.
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FireFist has an easy group!
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8 mineral patches in both main and natural :o
You can see a crescent moon in the middle >:o
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Cool map, I don't know shit about balance, but it looks like fun  .
Bisu should take his group easily. HoeJJa took out FBH, let's see if he can do the same to Hwasin.
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Moon Tears...interesting map...I can't make sense of it...it seems so convoluted and random at first glance, but actually makes sense after you sit and stare for a while, lol.
I can't wait to see how that plays out.
EDIT
A fourth gas is gonna be a bitch to secure, though...
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oh magma! i hope he at least beats soo so we get a chance to see how he fares against flash.
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Nice! I think my Fantasy team will get through...
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I imagine most people are gonna take Hoejja off their fantasy team now, that's one nasty group. Hope Jaedong doesn't choke against Tazza -.-z
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Map maker was on acid. Looks promising for lurker use, maybe zerglings too, distance seems to be too much though, looks like nat area is not so easy to defend. Argh i just don't know, i'm excited, i hope they tested it long enough. Crossing my fingers for strong zerg performance on this one.
Something tells me Bisu and JD will perform the best on this map.
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United States13143 Posts
Oh god, every map in the map pool is twilight.
I love the tileset, but dear god is it going to make it confusing to tell games apart sometimes.
Other than that though, this looks like a really cool map.
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9070 Posts
Really will make it with ez... tazza on the other hand thou... the maps are not exactly in JDs favor... will see. If someone from my FOSL team eliminates JD it will be double the joy
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When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Where do i vote so it's Neo Requiem instead of Medusa. Not looking so hot for terrans either way.
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On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.-
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On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.- Um, did I say he WILL have a negative zvt ratio? No, I said that he will be 'like' one game away.
Someone needs to brush up on the common usage of 'like', in the english language.
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On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.-
what are you talking about...? Did you not know July played more negative games than he did positive games?
edit: bleh I fail lol
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On December 15 2008 10:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.- Um, did I say he WILL have a negative zvt ratio? No, I said that he will be 'like' one game away. Someone needs to brush up on the common usage of 'like', in the english language.
I mean 'negative ratio'.
On December 15 2008 10:53 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.- what are you talking about...? Did you not know July played more negative games than he did positive games?
You're right, I haven't checked the anti-TLPD in so long.
Oh, he actually needs to only play one negative game to have a negative ratio, but whatever, it's a dumb topic. I'm dropping it.
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On December 15 2008 10:28 Rostam wrote:
oh magma! i hope he at least beats soo so we get a chance to see how he fares against flash.
hes gonna 2-0 flash
his mutas are sick and the new map+medusa are both fucking retardedly impossible to stop 2 hat muta on.
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On December 15 2008 10:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.- Um, did I say he WILL have a negative zvt ratio? No, I said that he will be 'like' one game away. Someone needs to brush up on the common usage of 'like', in the english language.
why would you say 'like 1' instead of 3
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Sea/Leta is a tough one to call.
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Do they try to make as many TZP groups as possible?
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Yeah, there's a maximum of 2 mirror match BO3's. Awesome.
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MrHoon
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fuck magma is playing flash
fuck.
FUKKK
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 15 2008 12:24 MrHoon wrote:
fuck magma is playing flash
fuck.
FUKKK
Why worry? Listen to Idra, he'll rape him.
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gotta drop flash off my fantasy OSL cos magma is gonna rape him
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On December 15 2008 12:52 Shikyo wrote:
gotta drop flash off my fantasy OSL cos magma is gonna rape him
I have a faith in Flash. But the new map set doesn't look too good for Terran players. It was though last season ( Medusa in TvZ and basically all the maps in TvP) and this map won't help. But if any Terran can make it I know it is Flash.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 15 2008 12:40 KizZBG wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 12:24 MrHoon wrote:
fuck magma is playing flash
fuck.
FUKKK Why worry? Listen to Idra, he'll rape him.
Because I like both Magma and Flash?
and seriously, after seeing magma get on rape mode, I have little doubt Magma wont beat flash...
Well Flash your OSL run was nice  , back to TvP I guess
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On December 15 2008 11:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:52 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 15 2008 10:50 Avidkeystamper wrote:On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Someone needs to brush up on Math Vocab. -.- Um, did I say he WILL have a negative zvt ratio? No, I said that he will be 'like' one game away. Someone needs to brush up on the common usage of 'like', in the english language. why would you say 'like 1' instead of 3 Because I don't know July's stats off the top of my head, and I enjoy taking advantage of what the English language offers; imprecision being totally valid.
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Group F - 1/2 18:30 KST
Set 1: (Z) maGma vs (P) SoO
Set 2: (T) Flash vs Winner
God thats fucking awsome for flash, hes gonna own who ever he plays\
On December 15 2008 11:19 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 10:28 Rostam wrote:
oh magma! i hope he at least beats soo so we get a chance to see how he fares against flash. hes gonna 2-0 flash his mutas are sick and the new map+medusa are both fucking retardedly impossible to stop 2 hat muta on.
Wanna place a bet?
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On December 15 2008 13:28 Scaramanga wrote:Group F - 1/2 18:30 KST Set 1: (Z) maGma vs (P) SoOSet 2: (T) Flash vs Winner God thats fucking awsome for flash, hes gonna own who ever he plays\ Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 11:19 IdrA wrote:On December 15 2008 10:28 Rostam wrote:
oh magma! i hope he at least beats soo so we get a chance to see how he fares against flash. hes gonna 2-0 flash his mutas are sick and the new map+medusa are both fucking retardedly impossible to stop 2 hat muta on. Wanna place a bet? I agree with you mate, but have you watched Magma vs Hwasin?
Flash will probably win, but I'm fucking scared.
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On December 15 2008 13:40 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 13:28 Scaramanga wrote:Group F - 1/2 18:30 KST Set 1: (Z) maGma vs (P) SoOSet 2: (T) Flash vs Winner God thats fucking awsome for flash, hes gonna own who ever he plays\ On December 15 2008 11:19 IdrA wrote:On December 15 2008 10:28 Rostam wrote:
oh magma! i hope he at least beats soo so we get a chance to see how he fares against flash. hes gonna 2-0 flash his mutas are sick and the new map+medusa are both fucking retardedly impossible to stop 2 hat muta on. Wanna place a bet? I agree with you mate, but have you watched Magma vs Hwasin? Flash will probably win, but I'm fucking scared.
One game man, one game you cant take how he plays of one game, especially against a slumping hwasin
Flash is gonna be practising 2 hatch muta against lux of all people, and his 2 hatch muta is one of the best in the world
There is no way that flash would lose vs magma if it came to it
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Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.
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On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.
Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury
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On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury. Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury
No, he clearly stated his intent in his post, I'll quote it.
"I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury."
English, obviously, is open to interpretation, but I fail to see how you got what you did.
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isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords?
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On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury. Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury In potential ability, yes.
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
On December 15 2008 14:20 anotak wrote:
isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords?
well fuck does that mean I have to watch flash get owned by Queens?
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On December 15 2008 14:23 MrHoon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 14:20 anotak wrote:
isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords? well fuck does that mean I have to watch flash get owned by Queens?
Nah hyvaa tried that, flash still won 
Flash will roll magma there is no doubt about it,
i just find it hard to believe that someone who has a record that bad can be so hyped by people
i guess we'll see
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it seems almost all of the seeds get pretty easy groups this time :o possibly due in part to so many big names dropping out in prelims ><
much and midas in particular look like they got a pretty easy ride to the ro16 ;o
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and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.
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Didn't Dan Lee say that maGma was better than Jaedong in practice?
It was only his nerves holding him back?
Because I didn't seen anything held back in his game vs Hwasin.
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2 3player maps again
3 is the new 4
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On December 15 2008 15:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
2 3player maps again
3 is the new 4
yep
map makers just cant get enough of guaranteed positional imbalance tvt
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I cant really sea magma beating flash, idk if hes jaedong 20x in practice games were it counts in leauges hes like 1-20 billion, with a win against a slumping hwasin
Trust me ktf fans, flash will rape magma
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There's also the issue of Flash's TvZ, which has been quite shaky as of late.
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People keep talking about magma's potential, but what about flash's.If were playing a potential war I think flash definitely wins on that one. And if were playing and current state war, Flash definitely has it.
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July... pls... give back faith .
Would love to see Flash drop... Along with all that allready pre-qualified Protoss scum :p
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u gotta skate8152 Posts
On December 15 2008 15:23 NahLGaE wrote:
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and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.
Agreed. It's way too early to overhype him. If he actually has conquered his nerves he has the potential to be one of the best zergs out there. But for now it's just too early to make spaculations. I'm dying to see more of him though! Hopefully they put him on the next PL match.
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Have you noticed that almost every group have 1 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss.
That means few mirror matches and good racial balance. Nice to see this during this "golden age of protoss" and "the zerg slump".
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On December 16 2008 03:35 scAre wrote:
Have you noticed that almost every group have 1 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss.
That means few mirror matches and good racial balance. Nice to see this during this "golden age of protoss" and "the zerg slump".
I'd prefer all protoss groups and then the rest would have a mix of Zerg and Terran =D
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United States20661 Posts
On December 15 2008 14:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury. Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury In potential ability, yes.
LoL? In practice games, a bigger threat maybe. On television, definitely not.
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On December 16 2008 11:35 Last Romantic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 14:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury. Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury In potential ability, yes. LoL? In practice games, a bigger threat maybe. On television, definitely not. Do you know what potential means? -_-
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I hate these groups. Go.Go, Firefist or Backho? I would be happy without any of them. And then groups with Flash/Magma, Sea/Leta and Hwasin/Mind. Sucks.
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On December 15 2008 15:23 NahLGaE wrote:
it seems almost all of the seeds get pretty easy groups this time :o possibly due in part to so many big names dropping out in prelims ><
much and midas in particular look like they got a pretty easy ride to the ro16 ;o
[edit]
and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.
How the hell do you think that Much will have an easy run to the Ro16? UpMagiC has been on fire recently, and Much has SUCKED recently (see game vs MuMyung). As much as I like Much, I don't think that he will make it out of that group, judging just by the way he's playing right now. If UpMagiC loses to Shine[Kal[/tlpd], Shine[Kal[/tlpd] will beat Much due to the shittyness of Much's PvZ. If UpMagiC beats Shine[Kal][/tlpd], UpMagiC will beat Much because of the way that he's been playing recently.
I also think that Midas will have it much tougher than people think, if only because he's played like SHIT the last couple months, ever since he lost in the last OSL. He got 0-2d in the GOM by BackHo (WTF BackHo), got 0-2d in his MSL group, and is 0-3 in the PL this season. His only wins since the Ro16 in the Incruit OSL are the 6 offline prelim games that he won, against 2 noob protosses (Air, Snake_gm) and a noob zerg (Study).
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Dude, you can laugh all you want at Backho's PvZ, but can you honestly say his PvT is so bad he should autolose to a B-rank Terran player?
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I still think the system is kind of flawed.
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On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.
Fuck.
July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.
IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
Who cares man as long he can kick protoss's ass with his style i don't care if he loses to Really or whoever , but i will be very sad if he gets eliminated thought . I think July takes the OSL seriously and will give Reallya run for his money . I think he will prepare something good . And he will be more then 1 game away from negitive career win ratio so its fine , i just hope he makes OSL
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On December 15 2008 17:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2008 15:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
2 3player maps again
3 is the new 4 yep map makers just cant get enough of guaranteed positional imbalance tvt
Sorry, what? Why would a 3-position map be any worse for a mirror like tvt than, say, pvp?
the little tvt I know are from watching vods, I only play Z and P
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Haha, BackHo gives me easy Fantasy OSL points ;D
I'm hoping for magma to overcome his nerves and to play great against flash, if he comes that far, what i hope. i have faith.
The first group tomorrow will be very hard though. Sea and Leta in one group. I couldn't decide which one to take into my fantasy team. I like both. They are the few terrans i like to watch. In the end Letas recents results convinced me more.
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