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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 16 2008 13:31 GMT
#61
On December 16 2008 11:35 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 14:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.

Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury
In potential ability, yes.


LoL? In practice games, a bigger threat maybe. On television, definitely not.
Do you know what potential means? -_-
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Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
December 16 2008 14:05 GMT
#62
I hate these groups. Go.Go, Firefist or Backho? I would be happy without any of them. And then groups with Flash/Magma, Sea/Leta and Hwasin/Mind. Sucks.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
December 16 2008 15:18 GMT
#63
On December 15 2008 15:23 NahLGaE wrote:
it seems almost all of the seeds get pretty easy groups this time :o possibly due in part to so many big names dropping out in prelims ><

much and midas in particular look like they got a pretty easy ride to the ro16 ;o

[edit]
and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.


How the hell do you think that (P)Much will have an easy run to the Ro16? (T)UpMagiC has been on fire recently, and (P)Much has SUCKED recently (see game vs (Z)MuMyung). As much as I like (P)Much, I don't think that he will make it out of that group, judging just by the way he's playing right now. If (T)UpMagiC loses to (Z)Shine[Kal[/tlpd], (Z)Shine[Kal[/tlpd] will beat (P)Much due to the shittyness of (P)Much's PvZ. If (T)UpMagiC beats (Z)Shine[Kal][/tlpd], (T)UpMagiC will beat (P)Much because of the way that he's been playing recently.

I also think that (T)Midas will have it much tougher than people think, if only because he's played like SHIT the last couple months, ever since he lost in the last OSL. He got 0-2d in the GOM by (P)BackHo (WTF (P)BackHo), got 0-2d in his MSL group, and is 0-3 in the PL this season. His only wins since the Ro16 in the Incruit OSL are the 6 offline prelim games that he won, against 2 noob protosses ((P)Air, (P)Snake_gm) and a noob zerg ((Z)Study).
RIP eSTRO :(
Muey
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland149 Posts
December 16 2008 16:10 GMT
#64
Dude, you can laugh all you want at Backho's PvZ, but can you honestly say his PvT is so bad he should autolose to a B-rank Terran player?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 20:59:10
December 16 2008 20:56 GMT
#65
On December 17 2008 01:10 Muey wrote:
Dude, you can laugh all you want at (P)BackHo's PvZ, but can you honestly say his PvT is so bad he should autolose to a B-rank Terran player?

I think that his point was that if he loses 0-2 to (P)BackHo and gets 0-2'd in his MST group, losing to (P)HerO, and is 0-3 in PL this season, he definitely won't have an easy time against (P)Tester, who is a PvT specialist. Especially since he has beat (T)Flash, (T)by.fantasy and (T)RuBy recently in proleague.
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One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
December 16 2008 21:26 GMT
#66
I still think the system is kind of flawed.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 22:04:43
December 16 2008 22:01 GMT
#67
On December 15 2008 10:47 Dazed_Spy wrote:
When Really rapes July, July will be like one game away from having a negative zvt ratio.

Fuck.

July, reinvent your zvt NOW, or retire, NOW. I can not bare the thought of the god of war being eternally humiliated due to a negative career win ratio.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.


Who cares man as long he can kick protoss's ass with his style i don't care if he loses to Really or whoever , but i will be very sad if he gets eliminated thought . I think July takes the OSL seriously and will give Reallya run for his money . I think he will prepare something good . And he will be more then 1 game away from negitive career win ratio so its fine , i just hope he makes OSL
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-16 22:58:13
December 16 2008 22:57 GMT
#68
On December 15 2008 17:20 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 15:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
2 3player maps again

3 is the new 4

yep
map makers just cant get enough of guaranteed positional imbalance tvt


Sorry, what? Why would a 3-position map be any worse for a mirror like tvt than, say, pvp?

the little tvt I know are from watching vods, I only play Z and P
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fishyjoes
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Germany644 Posts
December 16 2008 23:16 GMT
#69
Haha, BackHo gives me easy Fantasy OSL points ;D

I'm hoping for magma to overcome his nerves and to play great against flash, if he comes that far, what i hope. i have faith.
The first group tomorrow will be very hard though. Sea and Leta in one group. I couldn't decide which one to take into my fantasy team. I like both. They are the few terrans i like to watch. In the end Letas recents results convinced me more.
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