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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 15 2008 05:18 GMT
#41
On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.

Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury

No, he clearly stated his intent in his post, I'll quote it.
"I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury."
English, obviously, is open to interpretation, but I fail to see how you got what you did.
Jaedong
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
December 15 2008 05:20 GMT
#42
isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords?
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
December 15 2008 05:20 GMT
#43
On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.

Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury
In potential ability, yes.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
December 15 2008 05:23 GMT
#44
On December 15 2008 14:20 anotak wrote:
isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords?

well fuck does that mean I have to watch flash get owned by Queens?
dats racist
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
December 15 2008 05:30 GMT
#45
On December 15 2008 14:23 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 14:20 anotak wrote:
isn't magma the guy that flash dmatrix'd his overlords?

well fuck does that mean I have to watch flash get owned by Queens?

Nah hyvaa tried that, flash still won
Flash will roll magma there is no doubt about it,
i just find it hard to believe that someone who has a record that bad can be so hyped by people
i guess we'll see
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NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 06:28:09
December 15 2008 06:23 GMT
#46
it seems almost all of the seeds get pretty easy groups this time :o possibly due in part to so many big names dropping out in prelims ><

much and midas in particular look like they got a pretty easy ride to the ro16 ;o

[edit]
and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.
마재윤.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
December 15 2008 06:33 GMT
#47
Didn't Dan Lee say that maGma was better than Jaedong in practice?
It was only his nerves holding him back?
Because I didn't seen anything held back in his game vs Hwasin.
Jaedong
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 06:52:22
December 15 2008 06:49 GMT
#48
2 3player maps again

3 is the new 4
......::::........::::........::::........::::........::::.......::::.......::::... Up☆MaGiC ...::::.......::::.......::::........::::........::::........::::........
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
December 15 2008 08:20 GMT
#49
On December 15 2008 15:49 .risingdragoon wrote:
2 3player maps again

3 is the new 4

yep
map makers just cant get enough of guaranteed positional imbalance tvt
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
December 15 2008 11:43 GMT
#50
I cant really sea magma beating flash, idk if hes jaedong 20x in practice games were it counts in leauges hes like 1-20 billion, with a win against a slumping hwasin
Trust me ktf fans, flash will rape magma
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 15 2008 11:54 GMT
#51
There's also the issue of Flash's TvZ, which has been quite shaky as of late.
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gk_ender
Profile Joined October 2008
United States717 Posts
December 15 2008 12:24 GMT
#52
People keep talking about magma's potential, but what about flash's.If were playing a potential war I think flash definitely wins on that one. And if were playing and current state war, Flash definitely has it.
Taek Bang
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10705 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 12:33:23
December 15 2008 12:32 GMT
#53
July... pls... give back faith .




Would love to see Flash drop... Along with all that allready pre-qualified Protoss scum :p
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 18:20:42
December 15 2008 18:16 GMT
#54
On December 15 2008 15:23 NahLGaE wrote:
[edit]
and for the ppl talking about magma, i would agree that he's being fairly overhyped here over what was basically one great game against hwasin that while hwasin also made a fair number of mistakes, his game sense and unit management (as in when to make what units etc) seemed reminiscent of savior in his prime (particularly always mixing in a good number of scourge to take down dropships all over the place so well). the other game was against a fairly not so spectacular protoss where he did still play well. overall i think its still way way too early to overhype him to that extent just based on that performance. if he can keep playing that kinda tvz consistently and shows more results, then maybe he will deserve it soon but not yet.

Agreed. It's way too early to overhype him. If he actually has conquered his nerves he has the potential to be one of the best zergs out there. But for now it's just too early to make spaculations. I'm dying to see more of him though! Hopefully they put him on the next PL match.
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scAre
Profile Joined November 2008
Estonia28 Posts
December 15 2008 18:35 GMT
#55
Have you noticed that almost every group have 1 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss.
That means few mirror matches and good racial balance. Nice to see this during this "golden age of protoss" and "the zerg slump".
veni vidi vici
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-15 21:06:09
December 15 2008 20:22 GMT
#56
On December 16 2008 03:35 scAre wrote:
Have you noticed that almost every group have 1 zerg, 1 terran, 1 protoss.
That means few mirror matches and good racial balance. Nice to see this during this "golden age of protoss" and "the zerg slump".

I'd prefer all protoss groups and then the rest would have a mix of Zerg and Terran =D
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AloneInDaBunker
Profile Joined November 2008
Korea (South)123 Posts
December 15 2008 20:34 GMT
#57
Team name: Bunkerz
(1) (Z)Jaedong
(1) (P)Kal
(2) (P)Bisu
(2) (T)Flash
(4) (P)BeSt

Boxer is the truth.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 16 2008 02:35 GMT
#58
On December 15 2008 14:20 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2008 14:06 Scaramanga wrote:
On December 15 2008 13:58 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Magma is known to be one of the best players in sc He plays badly due to nerves. I admit 1-2 games does NOT mean he has conquered his nerves, but if he does, Magma is a far bigger threat to Flash than Luxury.

Are you honestly saying that magma > luxury
In potential ability, yes.


LoL? In practice games, a bigger threat maybe. On television, definitely not.
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Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
December 16 2008 04:41 GMT
#59
Predictions + Show Spoiler +

Group A: (T)Sea
Group B: (P)Kal
Group C: (T)go.go
Group D: (T)UpMagiC
Group E: (T)Midas
Group F: (T)Flash
Group G: (Z)HoeJJa
Group H: (P)Bisu
Group I: (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
Group J: (Z)Luxury
Group K: (Z)July
Group L: (T)Light
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
December 16 2008 05:04 GMT
#60
Predictions:

Hope
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Sea
(P)Kal
(Z)FireFist
(T)UpMagiC or (P)Much
(T)Midas
(Z)maGma
(Z)HoeJJa
(P)Bisu
(P)Rock
(Z)Luxury
(Z)July
(Z)Jaedong


Think
+ Show Spoiler +

(T)Leta
(P)Kal
(P)BackHo
(T)UpMagiC
(P)Tester
(T)Flash
(T)Mind
(P)Bisu
(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
(Z)Luxury
(T)Really
(P)Tazza
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