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Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
November 16 2009 23:39 GMT
#161
On November 17 2009 07:31 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 04:36 Corvi wrote:
you musn't call the other guy very bad to be honest


The topic starter asked if he is being sucky and Koll gave him a straight answer. Why would you even start a topic like this if you arent taking learning SC seriously and if you do ''its very bad'' =]


of course d+ after 1 year gaming isn't very good, but if honesty also means being a dick, then maybe it's not worth it. i call it the idra phenomenon.
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
November 16 2009 23:42 GMT
#162
props to koll, but honestly he plays a ridiculous amount.. the equivalent of someone who's played 3-4 years
L_P_Monix
Profile Joined June 2009
Australia157 Posts
November 17 2009 00:48 GMT
#163
oh wow, I JUST figured out whats going on here. Hahaha, this is absolutely priceless.
thez
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada65 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 01:40:00
November 17 2009 01:38 GMT
#164
I played for a very long time, and could beat people who i hanged out with, but once i faced a good player i got torn right through. It took me 6 months from a pretty decent level to a really good level(playing and studying starcraft every day all day), and longer to get really really good where i could raise the ranks with little resistance. It takes A LOT to be really good at this game. I sometimes forget the range of skill that can exist. Do you feel like you're improving? If not, focusing more on strategy and what is effective under the different circumstances is better than just hammering out games expecting to learn from them. It helps a lot if you have a good example to follow over a long period of time.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-17 05:15:35
November 17 2009 02:14 GMT
#165
On November 17 2009 01:59 TheAntZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2009 00:14 BabyRhino wrote:
On November 16 2009 16:25 tree.hugger wrote:
On November 16 2009 13:30 BabyRhino wrote:
On November 16 2009 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
This is what it comes down to:

Gladwell's 10,000 hour rule


read the book... doesn't apply to if you want to reach B- on iccup...

its more like if you want to be jaedong of starcraft.


you're very bad. for example me. i read Outliers for 5days and reached in my first week book in hand the end and im reading What the Dog Saw right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to think I didn't read the book after posting that


read as in, I read the book. past tense... not, hey you go read the book.

and i could care less if you read blink, tipping point and every other caldwell book out there lol... makes no difference in your understanding of what he said.

the whole point caldwell made was that there aren't too many shortcuts to mastery of a subject.

getting to B- is not mastery of starcraft, how one learns and studies and practices plays a huge role. someone can practice for 5 months incorrectly and not be nearly as efficient as someone else practicing for half the time the right way.



do you really not see what he did there?


I think before we even talk about reading whole books, we should make sure that BabyRhino has read the first page of this thread...

EDIT: Also, I just noticed. GLADWELL, not "Caldwell", hahaha.
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skronch
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2717 Posts
November 17 2009 07:21 GMT
#166
thanks for the front page material hahaha
MrHickoryHam54
Profile Joined January 2009
United States208 Posts
November 17 2009 15:19 GMT
#167
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year



dont listen to this guy. u have to play sc like 4 hrs a day if u do this. probly need portable toilet near ur computer as well...
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
November 17 2009 15:25 GMT
#168
On November 18 2009 00:19 MrHickoryHam54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year



dont listen to this guy. u have to play sc like 4 hrs a day if u do this. probly need portable toilet near ur computer as well...


then again, you get to win 4th place at WCG
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ERGO
Profile Joined October 2008
United States168 Posts
November 17 2009 17:50 GMT
#169
On November 18 2009 00:25 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2009 00:19 MrHickoryHam54 wrote:
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year



dont listen to this guy. u have to play sc like 4 hrs a day if u do this. probly need portable toilet near ur computer as well...


then again, you get to win 4th place at WCG


do they provide portable toilets at WCG?

I saw someone's signature once, it was "If they are worse than me they are a noob, if they are better they have no life"

/thread?
Never.enough - Nicht.genug
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
November 17 2009 17:53 GMT
#170
ROFL
I can't believe this guy 2-0ed Idra in wcg and placed 4th under jaedong stork and bisu. This is truly an epic thread.
Sullifam
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
November 18 2009 00:44 GMT
#171
On November 18 2009 02:53 ghostWriter wrote:
ROFL
I can't believe this guy 2-0ed Idra in wcg and placed 4th under jaedong stork and bisu. This is truly an epic thread.


haha my thoughts exactly

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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
November 18 2009 00:51 GMT
#172
I played ums, fastest and made maps from 1998-2007, after that I started playing 2x2 for about a year and finally in 2008 I really started trying to be good at 1x1. I am now C+/B- rank with about 200-240 apm. Just keep playing and your skills/apm will rise.
SultanVinegar
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States372 Posts
November 18 2009 02:26 GMT
#173
it's bizarre that people are actually still replying to the op
I'm a Flash man.
betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
November 18 2009 02:37 GMT
#174
surely, the fact that this guy essentially came above all other foreigners in WCG shows that to compare the OP with his learning curve is unreasonable, and perhaps should be criticised.
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
November 18 2009 03:07 GMT
#175
On November 18 2009 00:19 MrHickoryHam54 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 22:35 Kolll wrote:
it's very bad. for example me.. i play sc for 5months and reached in my first season iccup b- and im c+ right now so it's gotta be pretty bad to be at d+ lvl after 1year



dont listen to this guy. u have to play sc like 4 hrs a day if u do this. probly need portable toilet near ur computer as well...


Do you need to use a toilet every 4 hours?
Dont want to sound like Koll, but doesnt it mean that you have some health issues? o_o
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1806 Posts
November 18 2009 03:41 GMT
#176
How's my thread still alive? lol
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Tonyy
Profile Joined December 2007
United States86 Posts
November 18 2009 03:43 GMT
#177
I think everyone is different imo, some people can get good really fast or some people can take longer to get good
Is there life guards at the spawning pool?
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
November 18 2009 03:58 GMT
#178
this doesnt mean anything.
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-18 04:39:37
November 18 2009 04:37 GMT
#179
Just to give you some perspective:
[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=99016

D+ basically means you are in the top 30% of players.
OoFuzer
Profile Joined July 2008
Chile436 Posts
November 18 2009 04:47 GMT
#180
If Kolll quote all the post in 1st and 2nd page, would be epic q8D
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