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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
October 07 2008 22:03 GMT
#421
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Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
October 07 2008 22:09 GMT
#422
Thnx inc

u're da best~~
Why So Serious?!
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-07 22:17:54
October 07 2008 22:17 GMT
#423
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
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Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?
It felt like gravity.
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 07 2008 23:17 GMT
#424
Wow, there really is some nice games in here. Not all, but some real hidden gems.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
October 07 2008 23:32 GMT
#425
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
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Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi is known for having ridiculous ZvT, considered the best outside korea. (for zvt)
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
October 07 2008 23:35 GMT
#426
On October 08 2008 08:32 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi is known for having ridiculous ZvT, considered the best outside korea. (for zvt)

good as it may be, i dont think any z outside of korea has had good enough zvt to dominate even the top non koeans for years, so him losing to a foreign terran isn't that big imo :\
Entusman #12
RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
October 07 2008 23:42 GMT
#427
On October 08 2008 08:35 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:32 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi is known for having ridiculous ZvT, considered the best outside korea. (for zvt)

good as it may be, i dont think any z outside of korea has had good enough zvt to dominate even the top non koeans for years, so him losing to a foreign terran isn't that big imo :\


Yeah I don't think it is either, I mean it's not like he lost to a scrub either, it's artosis with a shitton of experience, backed by the support of his friends during the game. Still a bit of an upset, just imo
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
October 07 2008 23:43 GMT
#428
um so what's up with machine's sister... "more on this later"? when is later?
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 13:18:58
October 07 2008 23:49 GMT
#429
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi ZvT is so good that he typically don't lose to foreign Terrans so Artosis winning 2-0 against xiaozi is an upset.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 08 2008 00:02 GMT
#430
On October 08 2008 08:35 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:32 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi is known for having ridiculous ZvT, considered the best outside korea. (for zvt)

good as it may be, i dont think any z outside of korea has had good enough zvt to dominate even the top non koeans for years, so him losing to a foreign terran isn't that big imo :\

I have to disagree here, there have been quite a few Zerg who are at least as good as the top terrans of the past few years.

1. Xiaoxi - For example, the kid has not even been active as of late (though I am not sure about WGT/ICCUP CL) and he can still play well. A year ago he was a real monster and could easily dominate on Artosis/Strelok/Idra and so on. His activity seems to be alot less since teh TSL but I think he is still a real threat, WCG Canada would have been nice this year.

2. Paranoid/Gosia - His ZvT has always been very interesting to me if you have ever seen his games against Idra from two seasons ago in WGTCL (there was a huge drama on GG.net about it, but they werent taken down since the games were good) you would know he is a very good Zerg. I think he could beat Strelok/Idra/Artosis/Yosh easily, not that they couldn't do the same though.

3. Dinot - This kid is a real monster, after watching quite a few of his reps and his TSL games I have really tried to emulate his style somewhat when I play Z. IIRC he raped Idra in the TSL and only lost to fucking Nonys monstrous PvZ. His ZvT is definitely on level with most foreigners TvZ, Strelok would definitely be hard for him.

There are a few other Russian Zergs who put on a good show as well, n4u, Dimaga (Ukr i think),and so on. I dont think there has been a one sided matchup consistently prominent in the foreign scene for that long.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
October 08 2008 00:03 GMT
#431
In my experience XiaoZi is just really inconsistent. On his best days he can beat any nonkorean, but on his worst days he can even lose to Chill.
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muhahaha
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6776 Posts
October 08 2008 00:08 GMT
#432
papá Incontrol


anyway else think this somehow sounds really fitting?
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
October 08 2008 00:13 GMT
#433
damn sick live reporting again
thx inc
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
October 08 2008 00:25 GMT
#434
On October 08 2008 09:02 Sp1ralArch1tect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2008 08:35 littlechava wrote:
On October 08 2008 08:32 RoC)Ninjah wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:17 Straylight wrote:
On October 08 2008 07:03 [X]Ken_D wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Xiaoz losing 0-2 to a FOREIGN TERRAN O_O!!! Artosis must be making good use of his time when he isn't commentating.


I don't get it. Xiaozi himself is a foreigner. He posted good results in TSL but what's the big deal?


Xiaozi is known for having ridiculous ZvT, considered the best outside korea. (for zvt)

good as it may be, i dont think any z outside of korea has had good enough zvt to dominate even the top non koeans for years, so him losing to a foreign terran isn't that big imo :\

I have to disagree here, there have been quite a few Zerg who are at least as good as the top terrans of the past few years.

agreed there have been a few zergs in the last few years that are at or around the same level as the top terrans, but losing to any of those terrans wouldn't have been a particular surprise imo, because i dont think zvt has ever been non koreans strong suit - it seems like a matchup where the gap between us and the koreans is even bigger than that of a matchup like, say, zvz, zvp, pvt etc.

i think ret (z player who plays tvz), strelok, a few of the russian terrans, a few of the american terrans, and all the top tier chinese terrans could have at least a 50-50 record if not better with three you mentioned
Entusman #12
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:59:33
October 08 2008 00:55 GMT
#435
nm xiaozi refuses to play idra.. for good reasons.
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 01:01:42
October 08 2008 01:01 GMT
#436
edit: dang I fail
Writer
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
October 08 2008 01:35 GMT
#437
On October 08 2008 09:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nm xiaozi refuses to play idra.. for good reasons.

ya he doesnt want to shatter spiralarchitects little fantasy
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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 08 2008 01:36 GMT
#438
g5 went 0-2 against xiaozi. Not good games.. just kinda bo rapes We will try and get more gg's to you people soon.
MeriaDoKk
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Chile1726 Posts
October 08 2008 01:49 GMT
#439
play DinOt to fix that score and to feel a little better inside.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 02:53:21
October 08 2008 02:51 GMT
#440
Can I request matches on Medusa? That map is just so sexy!!
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