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amoxicilline
Profile Joined August 2005
France1124 Posts
September 18 2008 12:11 GMT
#41
<3 FBH

nice post , even if I can understand all these haters
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
September 18 2008 12:19 GMT
#42
On September 18 2008 20:52 KlaCkoN wrote:
Maybe, just maybe the reason some people don't like FBH is because you know.. he isn't very good at starcraft?
You remember TL.net several years ago when Mensrea made everyone hate a zerg called mumyung because he always qualified for OSL knocking out true favourites only to invariably fail before the semis?
FBH is very much the same, his ONLY starcraft related acomplishment in single leagues is knocking out Savior in the MSL that one time so long ago.
... His only claim to fame is knocking out a once-was champion...
Since then he has made a name for himself with his crotch dancing but he has never acomplished anything you know starcraft related.
I dislike FBH because he is so in love with his own fame yet he isn't skilled enough to become famous by winning things, so he resorts to acting like a douche.
July on the other hand is loved becomes he is SKILLED, he WINS, he is is every aspect of the word, a CHAMPION. A champion that wins in a fashion that most people consider very entertaining.
And please only zvps? July faced and defeated , in order Mind, frozean and luxury, all of them with rather scary vz's Even though mind has sort of fallen of the radar since.


its really hard to measure how succesful a SC player is, the most obvious way is by knowing how much he gets paid but of course we dont really know that. If you consider success as in actually winning a title or two, then that would make the total of "succesful" SC players very little. Thus, you should take into consideration winning ratios, length of career, consistency before you measure them with medals. A good example would be GGplay compared to Stork, GGplay somehow managing to win an OSL before totally crashing and burning compared to Stork who never won an MSL/OSL yet still plays consistently well to this day on, Who do you think gets paid more? The same goes for FBH, he never really won a Starleague title but considering how consistent and somewhat high W/L ratio is in his TvT and TvZ makes him one of the Samsung Khan's most valuable players. *cough* MVP *cough*

The same could be said about hwasin, Much, Sea, Luxury etc. etc.
..
Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
September 18 2008 12:25 GMT
#43
(Z)sAviOr: 2005 UZOO MSL, 2006 Pringles-1 MSL, 2006 Pringles-2 MSL, ShinHan2006-3 OSL

(T)firebathero: [none]

I think this is what was meant by:

On September 18 2008 15:59 Djabanete wrote:

sAviOr > FBH
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
September 18 2008 12:45 GMT
#44
On September 18 2008 21:19 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 20:52 KlaCkoN wrote:
Maybe, just maybe the reason some people don't like FBH is because you know.. he isn't very good at starcraft?
You remember TL.net several years ago when Mensrea made everyone hate a zerg called mumyung because he always qualified for OSL knocking out true favourites only to invariably fail before the semis?
FBH is very much the same, his ONLY starcraft related acomplishment in single leagues is knocking out Savior in the MSL that one time so long ago.
... His only claim to fame is knocking out a once-was champion...
Since then he has made a name for himself with his crotch dancing but he has never acomplished anything you know starcraft related.
I dislike FBH because he is so in love with his own fame yet he isn't skilled enough to become famous by winning things, so he resorts to acting like a douche.
July on the other hand is loved becomes he is SKILLED, he WINS, he is is every aspect of the word, a CHAMPION. A champion that wins in a fashion that most people consider very entertaining.
And please only zvps? July faced and defeated , in order Mind, frozean and luxury, all of them with rather scary vz's Even though mind has sort of fallen of the radar since.


its really hard to measure how succesful a SC player is, the most obvious way is by knowing how much he gets paid but of course we dont really know that. If you consider success as in actually winning a title or two, then that would make the total of "succesful" SC players very little. Thus, you should take into consideration winning ratios, length of career, consistency before you measure them with medals. A good example would be GGplay compared to Stork, GGplay somehow managing to win an OSL before totally crashing and burning compared to Stork who never won an MSL/OSL yet still plays consistently well to this day on, Who do you think gets paid more? The same goes for FBH, he never really won a Starleague title but considering how consistent and somewhat high W/L ratio is in his TvT and TvZ makes him one of the Samsung Khan's most valuable players. *cough* MVP *cough*

The same could be said about hwasin, Much, Sea, Luxury etc. etc.


You have a point of course.
But personally I couldn't care less for pro-league results, "consistent in pro-league" doesn't sound very sexy does it? =p
And GGplay was very good for quite a long time before he won, Stork is still the better player obviously.
I might be mistaken but I am rather sure that Hwasin, Much and Lux have been way, way more sucessful in singe leagues than FBH.
Sea is yet another mumyung I agree, but one he doesn't go out of his way to show of when he actually wins some unimportant match (like FBH) and two, his involvment with tl.net on a personal basis level it hard to dislike him.

To restate my main point though, I dislike FBH because he is so in love with the idea of beeing famous, yet he isn't skilled enough to achieve stardom be winning things so instead he resorts to acting like a douche.
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
September 18 2008 12:52 GMT
#45
I hate what he did to Savior, nontheless he's skilled (well except TvP) and has great charisma so I can't help but like him.Tx for the translation btw, it sucks missing out on things like that because I can't speak Korean.
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
September 18 2008 13:14 GMT
#46
Hahahaha i love how some people flame FConnectionUK.
Thanks again for another short insight FCUK.

There is a little FBH in all of us
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 13:19:42
September 18 2008 13:19 GMT
#47
On September 18 2008 21:25 Felagund wrote:
(Z)sAviOr: 2005 UZOO MSL, 2006 Pringles-1 MSL, 2006 Pringles-2 MSL, ShinHan2006-3 OSL

(T)firebathero: [none]

I think this is what was meant by:

Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 15:59 Djabanete wrote:

sAviOr > FBH



Strange, I don't see any "2008" next to savior, the only relevant year to this post..

Savior has achievements, nobody is denying that. What we're talking about now is current ability. Currently speaking, FBH is a powerhouse, who's proven himself more capably and ballsy than savior, with great personality and charisma. I think that's what he meant by:

sAviOr < FBH


FBH Has more balls than any other progamer has shown in group selection.
Admits his weak point on tv in a certain matchup, then throws himself in a group full of that matchup?

Also, this is very intelligent by FBH. Not only does he have to only practice 1 matchup, but the other players will be practicing PvP because 2 of the others are P's. FBH full-time practicing TvP, vs P's that are mostly practicing PvP... If this gives him the edge he needs, he will come out looking deceivingly strong, having just conquered his best matchup against less-practiced P's..

Very intelligent move. I love FBH.

also, I agree with OP. Great post.
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
September 18 2008 13:22 GMT
#48
i hope fbh gets knocked out instantly :D
Patrio
Profile Joined September 2007
Norway706 Posts
September 18 2008 13:24 GMT
#49
Seriously, making a post about how much you love FBH and in that post berate July because of his size and not starcraft-related issues shows what kind of immature person u must be. If you would leave out the part about July's size this would be a good post worth reading. Now it is not.
Zerg Bunker
Narrator
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States868 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 13:32:02
September 18 2008 13:28 GMT
#50
I respect that you're a fan of FBH but he's not going to win. =/

He's all talk and doesn't have the skill to win.

EDIT: I don't know why people are flaming FCUK. People have their favorite players. ;(
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5860 Posts
September 18 2008 13:30 GMT
#51
Just look at your heroes for a change. Do they have this kind of guts?


SaviOr played off-race vs. GoRush... On the other hand, FBH got himself into a group where he has to practice only a single match-up (although his weakest) vs. his opponents' two...
d.arkive
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States843 Posts
September 18 2008 14:05 GMT
#52
Savior was being cocky and GoRush rightly smashed him. FirebatHero knows his TvP sucks miserably and is using this opportunity to get better at it, and not turn it into some type of stunt (although to be honest he would probably like to).
"Refrigerator. Refrigerator, damn you. Refrigerator."~Spiritofthetuna, speaking in Haiku after losing
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
September 18 2008 14:21 GMT
#53
On September 18 2008 15:19 QibingZero wrote:
I fail to see how your obvious pro-terran/anti-zerg fanboyism is any different than that from fans of players like Jaedong, Savior, and July.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing againt FBH. I like him, and his antics are a positive force for the starcraft scene.

Sadly, the same can't be said for your post.


This is what the OP sounded like to me. If it was more carefully worded it might have had a lower percentage of posts arguing over whether Savior or FBH are better. Good luck FBH and hope you come out of the group with another strong matchup under your belt.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
September 18 2008 14:32 GMT
#54
On September 18 2008 20:36 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 15:49 Guybrush wrote:
On September 18 2008 13:14 FConnectionUK wrote:
July, the winner of 'nothing new w/ no meaning' golden mouse after Nada took all the glory, promised to do ceremonies on TV program (several times... I wouldn't even mention this if it was just once or twice). Instead, all fans got was a fat dude ACTING overly excited trying to look cool doing nothing. Who would've thought? He's fat.


OH HES FAT, HAHAHA! AWESOME DEWD!

Shut the fuck up.

FConnectionUK is awesome and you're not, so please take your own advice. Or try to comprehend the whole post before going on some crusade.


No crusade going on here kid, simply me expressing my opinion. Im pointing out where his post failed, as what he wrote there was neither funny nor informative, but only a pointless insult. As for your opinion on me, thats not the object of discussion here, and to be quite frank I couldnt care less.
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 14:36:14
September 18 2008 14:33 GMT
#55
I became a fbh fan after watching bnet attack. The guy is so hilarious and adorable.

And fbh is no mumyung besides tvp his tvz and tvt are both top 5.


ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
September 18 2008 14:44 GMT
#56
"July, the winner of 'nothing new w/ no meaning' golden mouse after Nada took all the glory"

Stopped reading there.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-18 14:57:39
September 18 2008 14:53 GMT
#57
until FBH does anything past the semis of any individual league he's not worth the time.. he's top4'd maybe one MSL?

he's like the anna kournikova of BW without the girly blond hotness, he's entertaining to watch but when discussing his achievements or skill relative to others, he's ultimately meaningless

comparing him to savior now in his best mu and savior's worst isn't really a big deal, there are plenty, i mean plenty of Ts that would be favored over savior right now
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Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
September 18 2008 15:01 GMT
#58
On September 18 2008 20:36 Hittegods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2008 15:49 Guybrush wrote:
On September 18 2008 13:14 FConnectionUK wrote:
July, the winner of 'nothing new w/ no meaning' golden mouse after Nada took all the glory, promised to do ceremonies on TV program (several times... I wouldn't even mention this if it was just once or twice). Instead, all fans got was a fat dude ACTING overly excited trying to look cool doing nothing. Who would've thought? He's fat.


OH HES FAT, HAHAHA! AWESOME DEWD!

Shut the fuck up.

FConnectionUK is awesome and you're not, so please take your own advice. Or try to comprehend the whole post before going on some crusade.


I like the translations as much as anyone, but bringing up things like "YOU = FAT" is immature as fuck and belongs in kindergarten.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 18 2008 15:08 GMT
#59
He's got balls just like YangPan

(T)firebathero hwatin
w/e
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
September 18 2008 15:09 GMT
#60
So many butthurt July fans, I am enjoying this thread.
Minimal effort.
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