EPTnice post , even if I can understand all these haters
FBH in MSL Group Selection - Page 3
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amoxicilline
France1124 Posts
nice post , even if I can understand all these haters | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On September 18 2008 20:52 KlaCkoN wrote: Maybe, just maybe the reason some people don't like FBH is because you know.. he isn't very good at starcraft? You remember TL.net several years ago when Mensrea made everyone hate a zerg called mumyung because he always qualified for OSL knocking out true favourites only to invariably fail before the semis? FBH is very much the same, his ONLY starcraft related acomplishment in single leagues is knocking out Savior in the MSL that one time so long ago. ... His only claim to fame is knocking out a once-was champion... Since then he has made a name for himself with his crotch dancing but he has never acomplished anything you know starcraft related. I dislike FBH because he is so in love with his own fame yet he isn't skilled enough to become famous by winning things, so he resorts to acting like a douche. July on the other hand is loved becomes he is SKILLED, he WINS, he is is every aspect of the word, a CHAMPION. A champion that wins in a fashion that most people consider very entertaining. And please only zvps? July faced and defeated , in order Mind, frozean and luxury, all of them with rather scary vz's Even though mind has sort of fallen of the radar since. its really hard to measure how succesful a SC player is, the most obvious way is by knowing how much he gets paid but of course we dont really know that. If you consider success as in actually winning a title or two, then that would make the total of "succesful" SC players very little. Thus, you should take into consideration winning ratios, length of career, consistency before you measure them with medals. A good example would be GGplay compared to Stork, GGplay somehow managing to win an OSL before totally crashing and burning compared to Stork who never won an MSL/OSL yet still plays consistently well to this day on, Who do you think gets paid more? The same goes for FBH, he never really won a Starleague title but considering how consistent and somewhat high W/L ratio is in his TvT and TvZ makes him one of the Samsung Khan's most valuable players. *cough* MVP *cough* The same could be said about hwasin, Much, Sea, Luxury etc. etc. | ||
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Felagund
Philippines504 Posts
 sAviOr: 2005 UZOO MSL, 2006 Pringles-1 MSL, 2006 Pringles-2 MSL, ShinHan2006-3 OSL firebathero: [none]I think this is what was meant by: On September 18 2008 15:59 Djabanete wrote: sAviOr > FBH | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On September 18 2008 21:19 dinmsab wrote: its really hard to measure how succesful a SC player is, the most obvious way is by knowing how much he gets paid but of course we dont really know that. If you consider success as in actually winning a title or two, then that would make the total of "succesful" SC players very little. Thus, you should take into consideration winning ratios, length of career, consistency before you measure them with medals. A good example would be GGplay compared to Stork, GGplay somehow managing to win an OSL before totally crashing and burning compared to Stork who never won an MSL/OSL yet still plays consistently well to this day on, Who do you think gets paid more? The same goes for FBH, he never really won a Starleague title but considering how consistent and somewhat high W/L ratio is in his TvT and TvZ makes him one of the Samsung Khan's most valuable players. *cough* MVP *cough* The same could be said about hwasin, Much, Sea, Luxury etc. etc. You have a point of course. But personally I couldn't care less for pro-league results, "consistent in pro-league" doesn't sound very sexy does it? =p And GGplay was very good for quite a long time before he won, Stork is still the better player obviously. I might be mistaken but I am rather sure that Hwasin, Much and Lux have been way, way more sucessful in singe leagues than FBH. Sea is yet another mumyung I agree, but one he doesn't go out of his way to show of when he actually wins some unimportant match (like FBH) and two, his involvment with tl.net on a personal basis level it hard to dislike him. To restate my main point though, I dislike FBH because he is so in love with the idea of beeing famous, yet he isn't skilled enough to achieve stardom be winning things so instead he resorts to acting like a douche. | ||
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foeffa
Belgium2115 Posts
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
Thanks again for another short insight FCUK. There is a little FBH in all of us  | ||
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404.Nintu
Canada1723 Posts
On September 18 2008 21:25 Felagund wrote: sAviOr: 2005 UZOO MSL, 2006 Pringles-1 MSL, 2006 Pringles-2 MSL, ShinHan2006-3 OSLfirebathero: [none]I think this is what was meant by: Strange, I don't see any "2008" next to savior, the only relevant year to this post.. Savior has achievements, nobody is denying that. What we're talking about now is current ability. Currently speaking, FBH is a powerhouse, who's proven himself more capably and ballsy than savior, with great personality and charisma. I think that's what he meant by: sAviOr < FBH FBH Has more balls than any other progamer has shown in group selection. Admits his weak point on tv in a certain matchup, then throws himself in a group full of that matchup? Also, this is very intelligent by FBH. Not only does he have to only practice 1 matchup, but the other players will be practicing PvP because 2 of the others are P's. FBH full-time practicing TvP, vs P's that are mostly practicing PvP... If this gives him the edge he needs, he will come out looking deceivingly strong, having just conquered his best matchup against less-practiced P's.. Very intelligent move. I love FBH. also, I agree with OP. Great post. | ||
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Piste
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Patrio
Norway706 Posts
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Narrator
United States868 Posts
He's all talk and doesn't have the skill to win. EDIT: I don't know why people are flaming FCUK. People have their favorite players. ;( | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5807 Posts
Just look at your heroes for a change. Do they have this kind of guts? SaviOr played off-race vs. GoRush... On the other hand, FBH got himself into a group where he has to practice only a single match-up (although his weakest) vs. his opponents' two... | ||
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d.arkive
United States843 Posts
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On September 18 2008 15:19 QibingZero wrote: I fail to see how your obvious pro-terran/anti-zerg fanboyism is any different than that from fans of players like Jaedong, Savior, and July. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing againt FBH. I like him, and his antics are a positive force for the starcraft scene. Sadly, the same can't be said for your post. This is what the OP sounded like to me. If it was more carefully worded it might have had a lower percentage of posts arguing over whether Savior or FBH are better. Good luck FBH and hope you come out of the group with another strong matchup under your belt. | ||
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Guybrush
Spain4744 Posts
On September 18 2008 20:36 Hittegods wrote: FConnectionUK is awesome and you're not, so please take your own advice. Or try to comprehend the whole post before going on some crusade. No crusade going on here kid, simply me expressing my opinion. Im pointing out where his post failed, as what he wrote there was neither funny nor informative, but only a pointless insult. As for your opinion on me, thats not the object of discussion here, and to be quite frank I couldnt care less. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17735 Posts
And fbh is no mumyung besides tvp his tvz and tvt are both top 5. | ||
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SpiralArchitect
United States2116 Posts
Stopped reading there. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36399 Posts
he's like the anna kournikova of BW without the girly blond hotness, he's entertaining to watch but when discussing his achievements or skill relative to others, he's ultimately meaningless comparing him to savior now in his best mu and savior's worst isn't really a big deal, there are plenty, i mean plenty of Ts that would be favored over savior right now | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
On September 18 2008 20:36 Hittegods wrote: FConnectionUK is awesome and you're not, so please take your own advice. Or try to comprehend the whole post before going on some crusade. I like the translations as much as anyone, but bringing up things like "YOU = FAT" is immature as fuck and belongs in kindergarten. | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
firebathero hwatin | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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