durr the first gas nat isnt cliffable and the only thing you really need a shuttle to defend is your main via the back min only... and its a risk for htem to try and drop it too cause they have to go through your main... i dont see how the clifing is worse than othello at all

remember LT and how inbetween the bottom left bases there is that small strip of land that sometimes terran players would put tanks at and then use a floating rax to seige gates and etc? well in rotk, the bases are much smaller it appears, and that narrow strip of land will extend much greater, im pretty sure that the only thing out of a seiged tank against the wall's range is the nexus and if our place our first pylon right next to it. i hope im wrong, but i see 2fact tank rush becoming very popular.

Tinithor

United States1552 Posts

August 03 2008 09:55 GMT

#27

Well.... IDK, if you can get to defilers the smallness of the areas will be good for swarming, but it also makes flanks difficult, you might be able to use the many routes to circumvent and be annoying with flanks and stuff. I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Slow drop to EASY defend island would be great.

ShloobeR

Korea (South)3836 Posts

August 03 2008 09:57 GMT

#28

What they should do is make 1 out of 20 eggs be an ultralisk egg, and when you attack it a neutral ultralisk comes out and is like '>:D'.

that would add an exciting twist.

Tinithor

United States1552 Posts

August 03 2008 09:57 GMT

#29

I wonder when we will get to play these new maps, i mean the first games on them are in like 24 hours sooooo, i wanna try em!

Ivs

Australia139 Posts

August 03 2008 10:01 GMT

#30

Notice the mineral patches next to the eggs on Plasma, workers get a free ride to the other side by mining the other side's mineral. That means you hide expos anywhere you want!

Hope the eggs dont take 20 minutes to kill.

Also it looks like there could be some positional imba due to the break in symmetry. Hard to tell.

Tinithor

United States1552 Posts

August 03 2008 10:04 GMT

#31

On August 03 2008 19:01 Ivs wrote:
Notice the mineral patches next to the eggs on Plasma, workers get a free ride to the other side by mining the other side's mineral. That means you hide expos anywhere you want!

Hope the eggs dont take 20 minutes to kill.

Also it looks like there could be some positional imba due to the break in symmetry. Hard to tell.

I dunn see much imba on the map except perhaps the bottom right lifted expo is a bit easier to hold because the way the ramp is angled.

Aesop

Hungary11305 Posts

August 03 2008 10:10 GMT

#32

The positional imba could come from the placement of min only expansions vs. placement of gas expansions. If you spawn top left against bottom left, you will have your min only facing your opponent and you will be able to attack your opponent's gas expansion while your own gas expansion is fairly protected (assuming you clear the direct route which holds more eggs).

Top left against right hand is gasexpo vs. gasexpo. Right against bottom left is min only vs. min only.

Ry-Masta-T

United States478 Posts

August 03 2008 10:31 GMT

#33

ROTK reminds me of Faoi without the islands. Plasma is gonna be interesting. Excited to see how these maps will play out.

Daigomi

South Africa4316 Posts

August 03 2008 10:40 GMT

#34

Looking at these quickly, I'm not mad about either of them. I do like the safe island expo on Return of the King, but I don't like the map much. Plasma might bring some interesting games, we'll have to see.

I'll probably do an FE on these again once the Proleague and MSL maps are out as well.

stambe

Bulgaria498 Posts

August 03 2008 10:41 GMT

#35

Return of the king is like a mix of Namja Lyagi + The Eye

Nightmarjoo

United States3360 Posts

August 03 2008 10:51 GMT

#36

Ugh at gas issue in King, at teal's position. I like King though overall. It's fairly simple but still different. I like the rovish center.

Plasma looks great to watch, but you won't catch me playing it outside of a play/obs. The eggs at 9 are begging to be nuked. I kind of wish the "nat" had gas and the other expo was min only, but I don't spose it matters too much anyway.