EPThe has given away games before and today he had all the more reason to do so again.
plus leaving your base with marines while 1 second later you'd have medics with them?
Nada lost to Yellow on purpose? - Page 3
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
he has given away games before and today he had all the more reason to do so again. plus leaving your base with marines while 1 second later you'd have medics with them? | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
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Grotfang
Belgium490 Posts
On August 22 2003 20:31 mindspike wrote: Grotfang nobody said losing to yellow is playing like a newb when you are trying to argue a point dont assume that the other side is retarded You're right, next time i'll give you more credit sorry. But i'm pretty sure i heard multiple people say "nada played so chobo omfg" and other remarks like that On August 22 2003 20:51 Asta wrote: player a attacks player b with m&m. he loses about 6 marines + medics to a couple of lings. shortly after that, player b attacks with some lurks and lings and player a has got around 12 m&ms and no tech to defend. not even a bunker. player a dies. does that sound like a match between 2 pros? Well yeah, i honestly do think nada was trying. You're forgetting what happened between "shortly after that".. nada mada a double attack move bursting through yellow's sunken colonies with his m&m, while at the same time building up vultures to threaten the other drones.. yellow just handled it in an incredible way killing all of those marines with some freshly spawned zerglings and instantly retreating all of his drones from the vulture threat instead of losing mass drones I don't know how nada thinks during a game, i wish i did, but let's just say.. nada was expecting his m&m to survive longer and didn't feel like blowing his cash on defenses? maybe he was so busy microing and thinking of the best target to attack with his troops that he didn't anticipate losing them all and having to defend his base? (he didn't even have an expansion yet i think, then you're not exactly thinking about getting bunkers to avoid getting killed..) all of this stuff sounds much more reasonable than nada losing on purpose imho | ||
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Grotfang
Belgium490 Posts
On August 22 2003 23:18 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I think he gave it away he has given away games before and today he had all the more reason to do so again. plus leaving your base with marines while 1 second later you'd have medics with them? ok so that's basicly the really fishy move.. but maybe he just misjudged (he probably only saw the lings in a flash) how many zerglings it were, and he thought "i'll get myself a few free lings before they run away" medics don't make that much difference when fighting zlings do they? when i see those progamers play, it doesn't appear to me as if they're the most patient people in the world | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
someone can TRY, and play GOOD, while still giving a game away on purpose | ||
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Grotfang
Belgium490 Posts
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
Also, I officially don't like KTF now, bastards. Ruined my Liquibet. | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Beamo
France1279 Posts
I didn't make that rule up It's used in table tennis competitions for exemple when people from the same club are in the same group. And I'm sure most individual sports where the players belong to a club or a team have the same rule. Even at low compitition level Now all Nal_Ra has to do is kick Nada's ass next week. He'll ne sure to be qualified and we'll be able to see if yellow throws the game away vs Chojja or not  | ||
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
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NoName
United States1558 Posts
Otherwise you would have the situation of someone tempted to throw a match to a friend, if they are already guaranteed a particular place, or to throw a match to a weak player, if my doing so it might knock out a strong player from a later stage. | ||
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x[ReaPeR]x
United States3447 Posts
On August 23 2003 00:45 Gryffindor_us wrote: NaDa and Yellow are close friends from what ive seen(cafe's etc) and heard. I wouldn't be suprised if NaDa lost on purpose or if it was vice versa. Look ive seen NaDa play at least as much as all of you and probably more for some of you. The marines dying to so little lings, and the micro was ATROCIOUS, and so let me put it in clear for you. NaDa doesn't make mistakes like that, this would be the first time ever probably EVER seen him make a mistake like that. Then after he broke through the sunkens I thought it was like he walked right into the lings. It was just way to "fishy" and non NaDa like. Oh well we will see what happens, it may prove to be his folly. Friends or no friends it's still bullshit. It fucks over the fans who wanted to see a good game. And it fucks over the other players who do the best they can and then have to play still more games because otherones were being rigged. I essentially blame two people for this: - Nada, he is being so GM it is killing him. I hope Nal_Ra beats him and then Nada is eliminated from the first round again. Whether or not you want to think BoxeR is a bastard for it or not he does whatever it takes to win when he feels like doing so. Another reason why he is the Terran Emperor and Nada is not. - I think KTF might have played a part in this. It is possible that they wanted Nada and YellOw to advance so their players would appear more. If this is true than 'fuck KTF, fuck them up their stupid asses.' The other reason I am pissed is because I voted for Nada in Liquibet. Nada should have raped YellOw so bad... | ||
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
stuff like this happens in tournaments all the time. it's no big deal. they still put on a decent game for the fans. it's nada's risk to take. if he gets eliminated, he'll have nobody to blame but himself. there is no I in team. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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AlaNtIs
United Kingdom5 Posts
Just wonderin how it feels to be ... a thrower gamer.. i dont know the right word.. | ||
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Refrain[FriZ]
Canada4337 Posts
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GundamVX
United States1025 Posts
There are a lot of reasons why I feel that NaDa threw the game. 1) KTF management is strict I've heard numerous times that the management of KTF is strict. It very well could've been decided that NaDa was to lose to Yellow (by the manager), and these players would have no way of disagreeing. 2) NaDa and Yellow are close & Yellow is NaDa's senior I've heard this numerous times before, and also Yellow is NaDa's 'senior' on the team. It would be considered BM for NaDa to crush Yellow knowing that it would eliminate him from the tournament. You just don't do that to a close senior (in Korea, that is). 3) They are practice partners They probably practiced how Yellow would beat NaDa without making it look like NaDa threw away the game completely. They had a week to prepare for this game, very well could've scripted a scenario at the office. 4) Moving out w/ marines w/o medics Even the commentators said that moving out w/o medics was a bad idea. They said they couldn't understand why he did that, and I couldn't understand either. After NaDa made that 'mistake' he micro'd his marines so that they didn't all die (although they could've) which means he's capable of better play and could've done better if he wanted to. Cancelling his second barracks was also fishy as it was almost finished (although he might've wanted it to be secret and had his cover blown by the overlord). The floating factory was also a questionable tactic. The late starport and no tank support also left many people wondering, 'Why?'. | ||
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Payt
Canada582 Posts
On August 23 2003 03:22 AlaNtIs wrote: Hey Nazgul, have you ever threw a game in the leagues yet? Just wonderin how it feels to be ... a thrower gamer.. i dont know the right word.. Game thrower? | ||
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Yugi
Vietnam6 Posts
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