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J_J777
Profile Joined August 2007
United States22 Posts
February 21 2008 06:22 GMT
#81
He's playing jaedong in the MSL (played), in the OSL, now the GSI tournament. Why does Jaedong hate flash so much lol it's like a lion to a lamb.... a lamb with fangs and a club...
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4041 Posts
February 21 2008 08:44 GMT
#82
well i agree with only one statement: Three quaterfinals vs JD in a row at the same time? Are you kidding me? That's like the worst scenario possible for ANY terran player.
Drone is a way of living
L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
February 21 2008 09:05 GMT
#83
u can talk him up all you want, but the list of people who he is on par with or worse than is significant. if you want to win you need to be the top shit, or get lucky. and you cant rely on luck.
HamerD
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1922 Posts
February 21 2008 09:25 GMT
#84
I like flash now because of his spirit and inventiveness. I don't mind that he looks more like a sea bass than a sea bass
"Oh no, we've drawn Judge Schneider" "Is that bad?" "Well, he's had it in for me ever since I kinda ran over his dog" "You did?" "Yeah...if you replace the word *kinda* with *repeatedly*...and the word *dog* with son"
vhallee
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
899 Posts
February 21 2008 09:33 GMT
#85
to me he's still cheddar terran.
Marijuana causes amnesia and other things I don't remember.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
February 23 2008 12:54 GMT
#86
On February 21 2008 06:44 BluzMan wrote:
The same thing was said about Free (always facing Stork and Savior), and where is he now? It seemed Sea was "the next terran big thing" who was just cursed to face S-class zergs in the leagues, and what happened?

If that kid got what it takes, it doesn't matter, he will break in eventually. If he doesn't, luck has nothing to do with it.

Terrans lately have been struggling with their own mediocrity and lack of personality - always hated for upset victories, never dominating. Always dangerous, never unstoppable. Even though terran is the race I enjoy the least in SC, even I started longing for a real terran champion to come. Mind fails to deliver, FBH is a faggot, Sea and Light are very good, but don't have "that thing" that makes one unstoppable, Iris is the goddamn most entertaining player to watch ever (as he is blessed and cursed at the same time to play 1% worse than his zerg opponent, no matter if that opponent is Jesus manifest) but unfortunately he is always "that close" to winning. UpMagic has shown all the signs, but his star faded before even rising to the top. Maybe Flash could fill up the terran vaccum, but first, he has lots to prove.

Agreed terran players always get so close but not enough t.t Hwasin was close around the point where he all killed mbc in the stx cup thing.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
February 23 2008 13:34 GMT
#87
On February 21 2008 03:46 lololol wrote:
It's called Karma, he was a cheesing little bitch in like 90% of his games.

if by 90% of his games you meant like 3, then yeah he was a cheesing little bitch
AUSSIESCUM
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dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
February 23 2008 17:12 GMT
#88
Flash has just been awesome lately, I used to hate the guy for some of his cheese games.. but I saw him lately and was really impressed. He isnt the cheap player he used to be. About people calling him a cheesy little bitch, tell that to Boxer please.
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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
February 23 2008 19:44 GMT
#89
He cheesed 2 games against the best player in the world by far and despite having played excellent starcraft since including going 3-0 in his GSI group and beating Jaedong 50% of the time w/o cheesing (well winning with a cheese). You guys sure know how to hold a grudge.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
February 23 2008 20:03 GMT
#90
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 23 2008 20:15 GMT
#91
Maybe I'm biased

but I watched a few Flash games before he became KTF's hot shit, and he never struck me as a cheese player then. I thought he was another standard macro terran with solid-as-hell mechanics who just romped through offlines/prelims.

Once he got to StarLeague and everyone started watching.. well that's when he pulled two cheeses against Bisu. But why the hell shouldn't he do that? One was a revenge build for Terran pride [Hwasin lost vs Bisu the day before using the same build, or something] and the other was just really cute [come on, refinery to mine through mineral wall.. if that's not even vaguely Boxerish, what is?]

And then there was that time where everyone was like 'Flash sucks vs carrier' - but really, he doesn't. Without experience you're bound to lose a couple games early; if you see his games vs Free and vs Anytime recently, he's finally gotten over that kink.

Flash is definitely one of the top (if not the top) Terrans today. Strong in all three matchups, especially since he's gotten his TvZ bionic/TvP vs carrier control worked out. And his macro is just fucking beastly.
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Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
February 23 2008 22:31 GMT
#92
+ Show Spoiler +
yay flash raped jaedong in osl with mech build just like msl ^^ flash v bisu cant wait
jmascis
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
February 23 2008 23:00 GMT
#93
There really is only one player left against whom I'd count Flash as an underdog and that's Stork, who is now 6-1 against Flash. I'd say he has 50% or better vs anyone else, maybe a little less against Jaedong once he manages to counter Flash's mech build efficiently, which he will most probably be working on for most of the next days after losing to it twice.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 05:12:28
February 24 2008 05:12 GMT
#94
DID YOU KNOW:

Flash is not the only KTF Terran with a 50% record against Jaedong.

The other one is none other than the infamous... + Show Spoiler +
<font size=6>Kim 'Hery' Yoon Hwan!!!</font>
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ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
February 24 2008 05:15 GMT
#95
hery is a beast though
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
noojOh
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States755 Posts
February 24 2008 05:17 GMT
#96
how good is hery
ive only watched a few of his games before
and now he never plays...
ftw
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
February 24 2008 05:27 GMT
#97
On February 24 2008 14:17 noojOh wrote:
how good is hery
ive only watched a few of his games before
and now he never plays...


He's better than Flash lol-_-

jk he's not that great
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
February 24 2008 05:44 GMT
#98
Hery is sub 30% overall TvZ XP
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Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
February 24 2008 06:00 GMT
#99
once jaedong finds the counter to flash's mech build, flash will just go onto his air-mech build :D
jmascis
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
February 24 2008 11:50 GMT
#100
On February 24 2008 14:12 Last Romantic wrote:
DID YOU KNOW:

Flash is not the only KTF Terran with a 50% record against Jaedong.

The other one is none other than the infamous... + Show Spoiler +
<font size=6>Kim 'Hery' Yoon Hwan!!!</font>


Frozean has a 100% win ratio against Jaedong... sadly nobody really cares. : (
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