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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
February 24 2008 15:33 GMT
#101
On February 24 2008 20:50 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2008 14:12 Last Romantic wrote:
DID YOU KNOW:

Flash is not the only KTF Terran with a 50% record against Jaedong.

The other one is none other than the infamous... + Show Spoiler +
<font size=6>Kim 'Hery' Yoon Hwan!!!</font>


Frozean has a 100% win ratio against Jaedong


No.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
February 24 2008 16:33 GMT
#102
sheis has a beast tvz
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 17:21:57
February 24 2008 17:19 GMT
#103
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.

AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 17:39:42
February 24 2008 17:37 GMT
#104
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



+ Show Spoiler +
What proxy hatch are you talking about? Jaedong 4-pooled Boxer, he never played proxy hatch.
4-pool against Boxer was a good strategic choice because everybody knows how strong he is in that matchup. He can crush anyone at any time. If you underestimate him or if you have too much respect for him - either way you're going to lose. Jaedong made a hard decision and it turned out to be the best of all choices.
Jaedong losing to Flash was a matter of time since Flash is simply great, he's the best terran player right now together with Sea and Mind and - interesting - ForGG. Actually I was disappointed that Flash lost to Jaedong in the bo5 because I know he can do better. Jaedong turned out to be the winner because he's a little bit better overall I think and not because Flash lacked of skill, that definitely not. Flash has what it takes to be the number 1, he just has to prove it a few more times. Jaedong and Flash are my favourite players and I'm glad that they seem to be rivals now.
So, Jaedong doesn't "deserve" to lose. He lost against Flash because he's so damn good right now. Flash deserves to win as much as Jaedong does, I respect both of them very much and I hope they keep doing so well!
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1752 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 22:37:19
February 24 2008 17:49 GMT
#105
On February 25 2008 02:37 ForAdun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



+ Show Spoiler +
What proxy hatch are you talking about? Jaedong 4-pooled Boxer, he never played proxy hatch.
4-pool against Boxer was a good strategic choice because everybody knows how strong he is in that matchup. He can crush anyone at any time. If you underestimate him or if you have too much respect for him - either way you're going to lose. Jaedong made a hard decision and it turned out to be the best of all choices.
Jaedong losing to Flash was a matter of time since Flash is simply great, he's the best terran player right now together with Sea and Mind and - interesting - ForGG. Actually I was disappointed that Flash lost to Jaedong in the bo5 because I know he can do better. Jaedong turned out to be the winner because he's a little bit better overall I think and not because Flash lacked of skill, that definitely not. Flash has what it takes to be the number 1, he just has to prove it a few more times. Jaedong and Flash are my favourite players and I'm glad that they seem to be rivals now.
So, Jaedong doesn't "deserve" to lose. He lost against Flash because he's so damn good right now. Flash deserves to win as much as Jaedong does, I respect both of them very much and I hope they keep doing so well!



+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong did not 4 pool Boxer. That would have been the ultimate cheese. It was a standard 9-pool.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
February 24 2008 17:50 GMT
#106
On February 25 2008 02:49 StRyKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2008 02:37 ForAdun wrote:
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



+ Show Spoiler +
What proxy hatch are you talking about? Jaedong 4-pooled Boxer, he never played proxy hatch.
4-pool against Boxer was a good strategic choice because everybody knows how strong he is in that matchup. He can crush anyone at any time. If you underestimate him or if you have too much respect for him - either way you're going to lose. Jaedong made a hard decision and it turned out to be the best of all choices.
Jaedong losing to Flash was a matter of time since Flash is simply great, he's the best terran player right now together with Sea and Mind and - interesting - ForGG. Actually I was disappointed that Flash lost to Jaedong in the bo5 because I know he can do better. Jaedong turned out to be the winner because he's a little bit better overall I think and not because Flash lacked of skill, that definitely not. Flash has what it takes to be the number 1, he just has to prove it a few more times. Jaedong and Flash are my favourite players and I'm glad that they seem to be rivals now.
So, Jaedong doesn't "deserve" to lose. He lost against Flash because he's so damn good right now. Flash deserves to win as much as Jaedong does, I respect both of them very much and I hope they keep doing so well!



Jaedong did not 4 pool Boxer. That would have been the ultimate cheese. It was a standard 9-pool.


+ Show Spoiler +
Hm ye, I think I remember it wrong. But you should put that into spoiler tags xX
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
February 24 2008 20:00 GMT
#107
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



Read Jaedong's interview. That was his strategy in the game, not for embarrassment purposes.
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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
February 24 2008 20:03 GMT
#108
u don't need spoilers when the game has passed for this long already.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
February 24 2008 20:05 GMT
#109
CURSE NO MORE! FUCK JAEDONG

GO FLASH!
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
Num
Profile Joined October 2007
South Africa62 Posts
February 24 2008 20:06 GMT
#110
Boxer gets a name for himself because he cheeses then people cry when other people cheese? Strange. Anyway as SigrUn said read the Interview. Jae was merely going through the motions. He isn't one to act as if the game is over before the opponent types "GG"
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 22:10:12
February 24 2008 22:09 GMT
#111
On February 25 2008 05:03 tKd_ wrote:
u don't need spoilers when the game has passed for this long already.


It's one of the most recent games, it has been played 6 days ago. Of course this needs spoilers! Imagine someone coming back from holidays, checking a topic about Flash and then realizing a game from the Emperor has been spoiled that he wanted to start watching in a couple of minutes...
Hate!
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 24 2008 22:13 GMT
#112
9 Pool is not cheese, Boxer just took a ridiculously dumb risk with his BO, and paid the price because of it.
jjun212
Profile Joined December 2004
Canada2208 Posts
February 24 2008 22:18 GMT
#113
He's the like 2007-2008 Toronto Raptors
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 22:29:58
February 24 2008 22:29 GMT
#114
Turn on the sc background music! it sounds so barren without it ;_;
oops wrong topic.
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
February 24 2008 23:41 GMT
#115
On February 25 2008 05:00 SigrUn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



Read Jaedong's interview. That was his strategy in the game, not for embarrassment purposes.


+ Show Spoiler +
Strategy is fine, I have no problem with the 9pool. But after he got in, and saw that the barracks wasn't even down, he did not need to proxy hatch there. Cheese is fine, and fair, but after you have the game, you don't need to rub it in. Have some respect, Jaedong.

AdministratorSKT T1 | Masters of the Universe
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-25 17:23:11
February 25 2008 17:21 GMT
#116
After watching Flash's game against Mind at GSI, I'm really tempted to call him the best Terran playing right now. As much as I love Mind, his TvZ isn't quite championship-level, whereas Flash has taken 5 of the 10 games he's played with Jaedong recently. Flash's play isn't particularly inventive, but he compensates by being absolutely rock-solid with his mechanics; he won't give up a single advantage he's taken during the early game, and he just milks them relentlessly. The kid is a wall with legs, a bulldozer. While everyone was focused on Bisu or Jaedong, he just developed his game slowly and steadily, and by now I'd actually be mildly surprised if he doesn't win at least one of the two tourneys he's in right now.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Num
Profile Joined October 2007
South Africa62 Posts
February 25 2008 17:45 GMT
#117
I definitely think Flash is on his way to becoming the top player. Even now I think he is in the top 5 on form players. I think we will just have to see how he fares against P as he hasn't played much P recently(At least not to my knowledge).
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
February 25 2008 19:40 GMT
#118
I totally walked over Anytime's 2 base carriers on Katrina.

On Katrina...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 25 2008 19:56 GMT
#119
Probably we should call "Flashs Curse" "Jaedongs Curse" ?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
February 25 2008 20:08 GMT
#120
On February 25 2008 08:41 riptide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2008 05:00 SigrUn wrote:
On February 25 2008 02:19 riptide wrote:
On February 24 2008 05:03 ForAdun wrote:
Jaedong somewhat cheesed Boxer so what?


+ Show Spoiler +
And he got pwned by Flash for it. Katrina + Terran pride == lol gg no re.

Seriously though, the proxy hatch was a slap in the face, and totally uncalled for. He had enough lings to raze Boxer twice over, the proxy hatch was just him being a moron. I supported Jaedong right through his last OSL run, but behaviour like that really makes me angry. Boxer is one of BW's greats, and if you beat him, that's fine - just don't embarrass him like a noob. BW is what it is today because of him.



Read Jaedong's interview. That was his strategy in the game, not for embarrassment purposes.


+ Show Spoiler +
Strategy is fine, I have no problem with the 9pool. But after he got in, and saw that the barracks wasn't even down, he did not need to proxy hatch there. Cheese is fine, and fair, but after you have the game, you don't need to rub it in. Have some respect, Jaedong.



We've been over this and you're wrong. He built the Hatchery before he realized the advantage he held. What you're asking for is players to try just hard enough to win, which is beyond stupid, and leaves them vulnerable to a myriad of comeback strategies.
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