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quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
140 Posts
4 hours ago
#21
a big reason i and honestly anyone else likes bw is because it hasnt been smoothed down into a small frustration free flavorless ball of nothing created by design-by-comittee that's driven by endless community whining

don't do this
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines791 Posts
4 hours ago
#22
On September 11 2026 09:41 quaristice wrote:
a big reason i and honestly anyone else likes bw is because it hasnt been smoothed down into a small frustration free flavorless ball of nothing created by design-by-comittee that's driven by endless community whining

don't do this


"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States720 Posts
1 hour ago
#23
hell nah bro let it sit where it is , I don't have time to relearn a game that's 30 years old, I have more PTSD than printf in SC2 losing his 20k line excel cannon rush cheese dataset. BRO
You don't understand how much I invested in this game as a kid teen, adult, and retired ass old idiot.

BRO, I amma gonna find you and MMA duel you if you actually able to push a damn balance change through.

BRO HELL NO BRO NO NO NO GOD NO Please no .
I have a urge to find you right now to discuss how much you gonna waste my life in drain because of this, even thinking about a balance change at this life cycle of the game is freakishly painful

You want patch go to SC2 and fool around there please. they love it, not here, thank you, much to your kindness, please bro, leave me alone.
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States720 Posts
1 hour ago
#24
On September 11 2026 00:37 Slayer91 wrote:
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On September 10 2026 23:18 WGT-Baal wrote:
No balance patch ever, blizzard can't be trusted (see sc2). Don't give them stupid ideas.


Blizzard made balance changes to get to the game the way it is now.. there's no reason to reject changes outright.
What needs to be avoided is anything that can majorly change the game, perhaps an option to select patch as well in custom lobbies so we can always revert to the last good version

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In short, what I’m saying is that a patch could be a great idea at the pro level, but a disaster for everyone else.


Agree, but lower ranked players are probably not going to notice 1 armour on photon cannons, it all depends what the changes are.

In anything, protecting lower rank players from cheesey plays like hydra busts will probably help the enjoyment of games in lower rank lobbies.

Also, the "second tier" of players playing a different game, are already impacted by balance issues that are different than at the pro level, but mild imbalances there can easily be overcome by skill so it's easy to argue that once the game is overall fun it doesn't really matter if the balance is not perfect.

For example, I'm pretty sure it's MUCH easier for P to play against T at B rank than vice versa, but is it really detrimental to the game? Micro adjustments to balance are really for fans to enjoy a pro experience with games that enjoyable to watch and have huge skill expression (people enjoy mirrors less, people don't want to see lots of all-ins because someone can't win a macro game etc)

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Balance with maps, there are still so many ideas left to explore.


Balancing with maps is an idea that was born out of desperation, when blizzard would clearly NEVER make any actual balance changes in the game. There are EXTREME measures being taken like putting lowground sections purely to target one specific strat in one matchup (9-7-3 hydra busts).

Even if blizzard would be willing to make changes, the trust in blizzard is low as we can see from the posts here.

Diversity and map making to change the games and tweak the balance is fantastic, but it's not the perfect way all the time.

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The other problem is that this could trigger an endless series of patches, in a mindset typical of SC2 (which, in my opinion, is partly what led to the game’s demise).


Endless series of patches sort of requires an actively supported game which BW isn't.

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You can make UMS stuff with any and all stat changes if you want to test things.


This is completely correct, the protoss changes could be done in a custom map if everyone agreed it was good for the game.


However you wanna suguar coat it , go build UMS map for your god damn BS thoughts, don't touch my shit :S

I am losing my shit,

It ain't up for discussion about BW balance changes!

There's absolutely no room for that BS, if you really want something different look up pr0nogo or something I butchered the ID he has a modded SCBW game with all sort of new units and mechanics, go be him, and leave my toy for 30 year is alone.

Thank you bro.

You are showing absolutely lunacy about removing people's effort over 30 years or so.

I am not up for figurring out a new build order ever and now and then ,there's already openers that I see it I insta GG I can study and learn and overcome it , but I deliberated choose not to, it ain't a balance issue.

Go find some new poison like storm gate, zero space or some trash RTS that is in early days to play with your stupid scale :S called balance, we sit right here stone cold , stone age brood war, best brood war :S bro :S
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