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jinjin5000
United States1560 Posts
They already have bunch of ai-upscaled videos up on channel on select big games, but they are really going to go into remastering entire run. Announcement post: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKDkGnyeib7mcU7LdD3x0jQ/community?lb=UgkxpAl3gzEymGgntclznRIEwMhL9n_NsVag Playlist of current AI-upscales: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWQeRMoEALvqNJfmUx0P_h7NXr8MwjdAb 
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1605 Posts
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NukeTheStars
United States278 Posts
I noticed them doing this months ago and was deeply disappointed by it. A.I.-upscaling, especially the way OGN has used it, makes the games look like some kind of smeary, strange Freddy Krueger nightmare. It makes me literally physically ill to look at it, and I think anybody who considers this a "remaster" needs to reevaluate their standards. The strange thing is, I'm not even sure why they're doing this. While the quality of recordings for most old games on their YouTube channel isn't great, I know higher quality versions of the recordings must exist, right? There were streams in pretty darn good quality back in the day. I know this because, for a time, I received stream recordings from Baezzi that were very nice, and they still look nice on my channel like 15 years later. Maybe OGN has lost their recorded archive? I don't get it. | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1605 Posts
On February 23 2025 09:47 NukeTheStars wrote: Horrible. I noticed them doing this months ago and was deeply disappointed by it. A.I.-upscaling, especially the way OGN has used it, makes the games look like some kind of smeary, strange Freddy Krueger nightmare. It makes me literally physically ill to look at it, and I think anybody who considers this a "remaster" needs to reevaluate their standards. The strange thing is, I'm not even sure why they're doing this. While the quality of recordings for most old games on their YouTube channel isn't great, I know higher quality versions of the recordings must exist, right? There were streams in pretty darn good quality back in the day. I know this because, for a time, I received stream recordings from Baezzi that were very nice, and they still look nice on my channel like 15 years later. Maybe OGN has lost their recorded archive? I don't get it. Long time no see! I've actually thought if they have the replays they could load em in Remastered and have software track and match movement of the observer so we get actual beautiful Remastered without having to manually observe a game. If AI becomes cheaper then maybe a better trained model can just match things closer to Remastered. It doesn't look great ur right I just saw a bit... Still I'm glad it's not totally forgotten. ^_._^ | ||
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Zergxhx
China222 Posts
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GTR
51698 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20344 Posts
On February 23 2025 09:47 NukeTheStars wrote: Horrible. I noticed them doing this months ago and was deeply disappointed by it. A.I.-upscaling, especially the way OGN has used it, makes the games look like some kind of smeary, strange Freddy Krueger nightmare. It makes me literally physically ill to look at it, and I think anybody who considers this a "remaster" needs to reevaluate their standards. The strange thing is, I'm not even sure why they're doing this. While the quality of recordings for most old games on their YouTube channel isn't great, I know higher quality versions of the recordings must exist, right? There were streams in pretty darn good quality back in the day. I know this because, for a time, I received stream recordings from Baezzi that were very nice, and they still look nice on my channel like 15 years later. Maybe OGN has lost their recorded archive? I don't get it. Yeah can confirm these look awful | ||
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kAra
Germany1465 Posts
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GTR
51698 Posts
On February 23 2025 12:40 Chris_Havoc wrote: I think some will be in for a shock when they release the updated VoDs for the 1999 Tooniverse Open. The "Alien" chairs, the weird costumes & set design, and just how unrefined the meta was. they're already on youtube, check out the amazing vhs quality recordings! | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1776 Posts
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On February 23 2025 18:46 KameZerg wrote: They should just release all the replays so we can look at them in SC:R mode graphics That would require OGN to still have the old replays on file, which I rather doubt they do for the oldest events. | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1605 Posts
On February 23 2025 17:10 GTR wrote: they're already on youtube, check out the amazing vhs quality recordings! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pRiCqMQtnI&list=PLR3ZiNqGs0OTpIWg6Nm1H3dXVsGRAtufy&index=2 Lel... This is way worse than the new upscale. Both for the eyes and ears. ^_._^ | ||
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tankgirl
Canada535 Posts
veto 9/11 veto apple iphone veto covid veto all the wars veto AI life was good | ||
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LML
Germany1794 Posts
Also releasing the replays won't help you much with watching them in SCR, as they won't work. You'd have to switch an old version of BW to the version used in the replay to watch it. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1031 Posts
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_Zephyre_
France16 Posts
The result itself is far from ideal, but it's awesome that OGN shows love for the game, & the idea is awesome. Also, quite frankly, it's perfectly watchable, much more than the old 240p content. Let's just hope we eventually get better upscaling | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1605 Posts
On February 23 2025 22:01 LML wrote: idk what everyone is whining about. it looks a lot better than the other videos of that time on YT. Also releasing the replays won't help you much with watching them in SCR, as they won't work. You'd have to switch an old version of BW to the version used in the replay to watch it. I don't know the extent to which that is actually true. Here is a working replay from 2001 when replays were introduced. (I skipped through another longer replay and there were mine idle workers at the main nexus with minerals still unmined which is a clear sign of a broken/incompatible replay) Maybe some1 with 1.08 or later install up to 1.16.1 can check the replay and see if it matches with the remastered. I also guess there is a way to make a RepFix for remastered if the need arises. https://repmastered.icza.net/?page=6&from=1969-01-23&to=2001-01-23 ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/dJtg2hX5/SCScrn-Shot-022325-160334.png) | ||
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LML
Germany1794 Posts
On February 23 2025 23:12 LUCKY_NOOB wrote: I don't know the extent to which that is actually true. Here is a working replay from 2001 when replays were introduced. (I skipped through another longer replay and there were mine idle workers at the main nexus with minerals still unmined which is a clear sign of a broken/incompatible replay) Maybe some1 with 1.08 or later install up to 1.16.1 can check the replay and see if it matches with the remastered. I also guess there is a way to make a RepFix for remastered if the need arises. https://repmastered.icza.net/?page=6&from=1969-01-23&to=2001-01-23 colour me surprised. I'd have expected it to be pretty broken or incompatible since there was a version changer program back in the day so people could watch replays from older versions without issues. | ||
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Soft_General_5023
152 Posts
On February 23 2025 12:40 Chris_Havoc wrote: I think some will be in for a shock when they release the updated VoDs for the 1999 Tooniverse Open. The "Alien" chairs, the weird costumes & set design, and just how unrefined the meta was. damn ![[image loading]](https://imgur.com/a/zagPzYM) imgur.com | ||
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