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`Myst
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/AIsV5Zx.png) This will be his first live broadcast since 2021-05-05. Sunday, Oct 20 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) Ladder statistics Original announcement (translated by jinjin): Full playlist of Flash's 2024 ladder games since announcement (casting by namkraft): Flash's channel [edit] since this post was featured in community news I decided to improve it somewhat. 
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
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GTR
51432 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3677 Posts
It's been way too long  | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6769 Posts
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On October 19 2024 19:30 GTR wrote: would be funny if he just said "hello" and turned off the stream immediately afterwards not impossible, this post says nothing about a comeback. of course, just "hello" is extremely unlikely, but it may or may not be related to gaming, right? | ||
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`Myst
16 Posts
On October 19 2024 19:51 HolydaKing wrote: but it may or may not be related to gaming, right? he's been #1 on the ladder for like 3 months bro | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25013 Posts
On October 19 2024 19:30 GTR wrote: would be funny if he just said "hello" and turned off the stream immediately afterwards I’d be absolutely here for that I wouldn’t rule out him addressing recent controversies, comboed with some announcement of a return to streaming/competing Another classic in the ‘announcement of an announcement genre’ anyway | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
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TMNT
2649 Posts
But to be honest I feel like Flash is such a coward in this whole situation. First he tried to shift the responsibility to his mother. Then he already had the military time to soften the blow. But it still takes him almost another 2 years with god know how many streamers already paving the way for him to come back. Among the ones caught, Sea should be commended for bravely starting the comeback series and providing a template for them all by himself lmao. | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
I did the math and it's tomorrow at 12 PM here , in Romania! PERFECT !!!!! | ||
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CicadaSC
United States1595 Posts
Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! Let's look at this comparatively: Life, lost games on purpose, took money from sport betters and fans who believed in him. Shunned. Flash, promoted a shitcoin, took money from fans who listened to him and invested into the coin. YAY HE'S BACK! (If there is anything I'm getting wrong I'm open to my opinion being changed as long as there are sources. But to me it really seems the foreign community has no moral standards because the scamming didn't effect them therefore they are able to look past it. If you lost $500, $1k, $5k would your opinion be different?) | ||
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kogeT
Poland2037 Posts
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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Holint_Casazr
Germany72 Posts
On October 19 2024 22:42 CicadaSC wrote: Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! I can only speak for myself of course: I'm a big FlaSh fan for 15 years now, but in the end, all korean players are not 'real people' to me in the sense that I do not know them at all, can't speak their language, have no connection to them whatsoever due to that barrier etc. The only thing I know about them is them playing BW. So when they do something outside of the game, I have no opinion about that since I can't check anything about their character, what they were doing and so on. The only exception I can make is when they do something truely horrific and they get sentenced for that (be it match fixing or other stuff that actually gets you in trouble with the authorities). Because there I have at least some objective measurement to go by. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4126 Posts
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Simplistik
2003 Posts
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Nirli
Bulgaria365 Posts
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iFU.spx
Russian Federation368 Posts
On October 19 2024 22:42 CicadaSC wrote: Let's see how the Korean community responds, and what he has to say. He definitely needs to apologize and explain the situation in a favorable light. Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! Let's look at this comparatively: Life, lost games on purpose, took money from sport betters and fans who believed in him. Shunned. Flash, promoted a shitcoin, took money from fans who listened to him and invested into the coin. YAY HE'S BACK! (If there is anything I'm getting wrong I'm open to my opinion being changed as long as there are sources. But to me it really seems the foreign community has no moral standards because the scamming didn't effect them therefore they are able to look past it. If you lost $500, $1k, $5k would your opinion be different?) You have no idea what are you talking about. Do not try to be moral camerеtone, please. Thank you. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3677 Posts
On October 19 2024 22:42 CicadaSC wrote: Let's see how the Korean community responds, and what he has to say. He definitely needs to apologize and explain the situation in a favorable light. Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! Let's look at this comparatively: Life, lost games on purpose, took money from sport betters and fans who believed in him. Shunned. Flash, promoted a shitcoin, took money from fans who listened to him and invested into the coin. YAY HE'S BACK! (If there is anything I'm getting wrong I'm open to my opinion being changed as long as there are sources. But to me it really seems the foreign community has no moral standards because the scamming didn't effect them therefore they are able to look past it. If you lost $500, $1k, $5k would your opinion be different?) The coin never went live, everyone who invested got their money back. Nobody lost a single cent from this whole thing. The comparison with Life is also pretty weak. Life is banned from all and any SC2 competition. It does not matter if people would want him back or not, there is no come back path for him. Flash didn't get banned from anything. Life was also legally prosecuted, Flash was not. 10 minute video is all you had to watch before posting, funny how you are asking for sources while providing none: | ||
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cheesehuehue
Vatican City State90 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 20 2024 02:34 cheesehuehue wrote: Every thread about Flash ends up being about the coin scandal. Can you create a megathread or something that talks specifically about that, so that every other thread can focus on gaming? Do you think Flash will participate in /win the next SSL? Do you think he will go back to peak form? Who would win, Flash or peak Snow (January 2024), etc ? Peak crypto would win | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4173 Posts
On October 19 2024 23:43 Simplistik wrote: It's time for Flash to prove the doubters wrong and to win ASL as Protoss. I would love to see that, actually. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25013 Posts
On October 19 2024 23:43 Simplistik wrote: It's time for Flash to prove the doubters wrong and to win ASL as Protoss. Who’s doubting his skill at the game? | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey726 Posts
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TMNT
2649 Posts
On October 19 2024 23:43 Simplistik wrote: It's time for Flash to prove the doubters wrong and to win ASL as Protoss. Technically he has to win as Protoss three times in a row, playing against a clone of himself playing Terran, to convince me Protoss is as strong as Terran. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35136 Posts
On October 19 2024 22:42 CicadaSC wrote: Let's see how the Korean community responds, and what he has to say. He definitely needs to apologize and explain the situation in a favorable light. Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! Let's look at this comparatively: Life, lost games on purpose, took money from sport betters and fans who believed in him. Shunned. Flash, promoted a shitcoin, took money from fans who listened to him and invested into the coin. YAY HE'S BACK! (If there is anything I'm getting wrong I'm open to my opinion being changed as long as there are sources. But to me it really seems the foreign community has no moral standards because the scamming didn't effect them therefore they are able to look past it. If you lost $500, $1k, $5k would your opinion be different?) I mean, seems pretty obvious to me. Life compromised the integrity of the game. That's the inherent difference. I don't know how it works in Europe, but at least here people really only hold out of competition infraction grudges against players unless they involve serious physical harm against people or animals. | ||
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zelevin
United States253 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25013 Posts
On October 20 2024 08:41 zelevin wrote: If i was mod, i would ban all talk of crypto. Not 1 person using TL bought into flash's crypto scam, this is just a bunch of unaffected people circle jerking their moral compass like it means something. If we restricted discussions solely to what personally affected us, well it wouldn’t be much of an active forum | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8637 Posts
On October 19 2024 22:42 CicadaSC wrote: Let's see how the Korean community responds, and what he has to say. He definitely needs to apologize and explain the situation in a favorable light. Also weird to see the foreign community cheering on someone who essentially scammed their fans. I.e., promoting a crypto without revealing you had ties to it. Greedy and deceitful but i guess if u weren't the ones to lose money it's okay! Let's look at this comparatively: Life, lost games on purpose, took money from sport betters and fans who believed in him. Shunned. Flash, promoted a shitcoin, took money from fans who listened to him and invested into the coin. YAY HE'S BACK! (If there is anything I'm getting wrong I'm open to my opinion being changed as long as there are sources. But to me it really seems the foreign community has no moral standards because the scamming didn't effect them therefore they are able to look past it. If you lost $500, $1k, $5k would your opinion be different?) seems like youre getting everything wrong mate. be quicker to post your own sources so we can laugh at how bad they were | ||
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kAra
Germany1358 Posts
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TMNT
2649 Posts
On October 20 2024 08:41 zelevin wrote: If i was mod, i would ban all talk of crypto. Not 1 person using TL bought into flash's crypto scam, this is just a bunch of unaffected people circle jerking their moral compass like it means something. I'm not fond of the crypto talk either, it's been discussed to death here, but if we use this standard it'd mean we shouldn't have said anything about Rapid at BSL too. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
On October 20 2024 05:33 TMNT wrote: Technically he has to win as Protoss three times in a row, playing against a clone of himself playing Terran, to convince me Protoss is as strong as Terran. lol funny comment thank you for the laugh Super glad Flash is coming back. Looking forward to the statement. | ||
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Simplistik
2003 Posts
On October 20 2024 05:33 TMNT wrote: Technically he has to win as Protoss three times in a row, playing against a clone of himself playing Terran, to convince me Protoss is as strong as Terran. That is excellent. | ||
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Li_Xin
51 Posts
On October 19 2024 19:30 GTR wrote: would be funny if he just said "hello" and turned off the stream immediately afterwards Imagine if the announcement was just him shilling a different investment opportunity lol | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
On October 20 2024 17:31 Li_Xin wrote: Imagine if the announcement was just him shilling a different investment opportunity lol hahahahha ))best comment !!  | ||
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ronibez
Hungary182 Posts
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GTR
51432 Posts
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
On October 20 2024 18:05 llIH wrote: Screen is just black yeah... and he receives donations from fans ! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
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ronibez
Hungary182 Posts
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
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`Myst
16 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/1cg0oei.png) | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
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Zergxhx
China145 Posts
Some explanations about virtual currency The mysterious Terran on the ladder before was Flash, His StarCraft level has dropped a lot Apology He will start live streaming tomorrow I think flash will watch SSL smiefinal，happy to see him return | ||
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Holint_Casazr
Germany72 Posts
"His StarCraft level has dropped a lot" --> N°1 on ladder; might be time to resurrect that beaten to death bored flash meme thread. | ||
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Moonsalt
267 Posts
On October 20 2024 18:25 prosatan wrote: that was all ? What did you expect, a showmatch vs. Jaedong or something? (I did) | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
On October 20 2024 18:30 Moonsalt wrote: What did you expect, a showmatch vs. Jaedong or something? (I did) Haaa ! It would have been nice | ||
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TMNT
2649 Posts
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`Myst
16 Posts
On October 20 2024 18:49 TMNT wrote: he's kind of a coward. Hid for so long, played a 10 min pre-recorded video which wasn't even recorded recently, then tomorrow he'll go on as business as usual. i disagree. i think it is not cowardice but a very deep and profound shame that explains his behavior. can you not see it in his eye? other streamers involved in coin returned months/years ago...he waited so long...he loves starcraft so much... it is rumoured he abandoned his self care...i was not surprised to see that in the pre-recorded apology video he looks like he aged 10 years. there will be two types of responses: 1. sympathy from those who also have committed a great misdeed and repented 2. stones from those who have not | ||
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okso
Korea (South)101 Posts
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Moonsalt
267 Posts
On October 20 2024 18:49 TMNT wrote: That was lame. Wasn't wrong when I said he's kind of a coward. Hid for so long, played a 10 min pre-recorded video which wasn't even recorded recently, then tomorrow he'll go on as business as usual. You are vile. What else do you want from this man? Personally kneel down before you and give you pleasure? Seriously... why can't people accept him back and just watch him play Starcraft... | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 20 2024 19:14 okso wrote: Well that was kinda lame yes it was I will translate the apology video I guess | ||
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Jumperer
5 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 20 2024 20:41 Jumperer wrote: how are the korean netizens responding to his apology video? badly he never addressed core issue | ||
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TMNT
2649 Posts
On October 20 2024 19:24 outscar wrote: He should've done this a year ago. I was afraid he was never coming back but we got FlaSh back. And these comments lol... Pathetic. Why out of all streamers/players FlaSh needs to be most responsible for coin scandal meanwhile Bisu, Sea and rest apologized ages ago and they don't even remember or talk about it but you guys still wanna hunt FlaSh down. And it wasn't like FlaSh knew it was going to become a scam. Go touch some grass. Because he was close friend with the owner of the coin, invested first, then invited Bisu Sea etc. into the scheme with them. There's a hierarchy and while we don't know how much each of them was involved or knew if it was a scam, the logical assumption is Flash would know better and would have more responsibility. Don't get me wrong I'm glad all of them came back and we can have more SC and I wouldn't even be against Savior coming back tomorrow lol. But me being okay with that is unrelated to me making a comment on their character, based on what I observed. At least the others just turned on their camera and had a conversation with the fans. But Flash waited for almost 2 years, made his appearance on the ladder a secret to noone, let other streamers pave the way for his comeback numerous times. A that smoothing only to play a 10 min pre recorded video on his first stream. Lame. | ||
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Zealos
United Kingdom3575 Posts
On October 20 2024 19:18 Moonsalt wrote: You are vile. What else do you want from this man? Personally kneel down before you and give you pleasure? Seriously... why can't people accept him back and just watch him play Starcraft... Yeah, I can't imagine any middle ground between his prerecorded video and a blowjob | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 20 2024 21:03 Zealos wrote: Yeah, I can't imagine any middle ground between his prerecorded video and a blowjob LMAO | ||
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SCRVN
65 Posts
On October 20 2024 19:24 outscar wrote: He should've done this a year ago. I was afraid he was never coming back but we got FlaSh back. And these comments lol... Pathetic. Why out of all streamers/players FlaSh needs to be most responsible for coin scandal meanwhile Bisu, Sea and rest apologized ages ago and they don't even remember or talk about it but you guys still wanna hunt FlaSh down. And it wasn't like FlaSh knew it was going to become a scam. Go touch some grass. FlaSh spent his many years to looking for some reasons which he needed to say apology to his fans but unfortunately, he can't find anything to do. He never sees what doesn't exist. In the StarCraft, if you win, you don't have to say apology to your enemy beacause the guy is so dull. It's not your fault! | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
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GTR
51432 Posts
maybe it's a prerecorded fpvod hue | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 20 2024 21:34 GTR wrote: so much for waiting until tomorrow night to start playing games maybe it's a prerecorded fpvod hue Pretty disappointing to say the least. One of worse dealings of controversy I've seen, and he had years to prepare | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4173 Posts
that was very awkward and underwhelming, tbqh.. | ||
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Kespa1988
38 Posts
For me he seems to be bit too proud and litlle bit arrogant to make really good apperance after being in the shadow. As a player he is maybe God, as a person i never was a fan of him. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
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llIH
Norway2143 Posts
On October 20 2024 22:51 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: FlaSh still using a Qsenn :D Where did you see that? | ||
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Moonsalt
267 Posts
On October 20 2024 21:03 Zealos wrote: Yeah, I can't imagine any middle ground between his prerecorded video and a blowjob I think you need to learn how to forgive. That's the middle ground. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
I have the keyboard and know his sound lol | ||
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TMNT
2649 Posts
But that's also why I have an issue with this. He can return this simply because others (Sea, Britney, Guemchi, Bisu...) have already done all the heavy liftings for him years ago. I dont remember exactly but it was probably Sea who started the digging up from the underground for them to return. Maybe a weird take from me but I have respect for Sea because he was the one brave enough to go first. And their apology streams were uncomfortable to watch. In contrast, Flash who started it all, essentially had his time off anyway due to the military service, chilled for another 2 years, then played a video which feels more like a documentary about him overcoming difficulties in life, and hey, it's me again. | ||
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whylessness
United States376 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25013 Posts
On October 20 2024 23:01 Moonsalt wrote: I think you need to learn how to forgive. That's the middle ground. The middle ground is ‘hey I fucked up’, ‘ok it sucked but you are forgiven’ Not dancing around it for literal years at this point | ||
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TornadoSteve
1013 Posts
On October 19 2024 19:30 GTR wrote: would be funny if he just said "hello" and turned off the stream immediately afterwards Haha please | ||
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TornadoSteve
1013 Posts
On October 20 2024 17:31 Li_Xin wrote: Imagine if the announcement was just him shilling a different investment opportunity lol LOL | ||
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Odoakar
Croatia1835 Posts
Let the man play. Worse things have been done than this. I mean, Tom Brady, Steph Curry, Larry David, Matt Damon...all these people took sponsorship from FTX and shilled them hard, and what happened...nothing. | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
On October 20 2024 23:42 WombaT wrote: The middle ground is ‘hey I fucked up’, ‘ok it sucked but you are forgiven’ Not dancing around it for literal years at this point Happy birthday WombaT | ||
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cheesehuehue
Vatican City State90 Posts
https://play.sooplive.co.kr/byflash/277969108 | ||
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TMNT
2649 Posts
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Navane
Netherlands2748 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25013 Posts
Cheers, alas I’m a bit busy to grab a beer, but soon hopefully! | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1417 Posts
On October 21 2024 02:22 TMNT wrote: Talking about universities and stuff, of course he'll join one soon. It's also the easiest to way to streamline your return smoothly. seems like terror's uni | ||
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machinus
United States290 Posts
Let him play. | ||
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End1ess
Canada73 Posts
If is smart he wouldn’t want to join terror along with Bisu there remind people them two. Most like he will join K uni along with good boy image JD. | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium4751 Posts
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Highgamer
1404 Posts
Never seen this big a donation before, lol: ![[image loading]](https://i.ibb.co/MBGC1fc/124124124.jpg) | ||
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prosatan
Romania7965 Posts
On October 21 2024 06:51 End1ess wrote: If is smart he wouldn’t want to join terror along with Bisu there remind people them two. Most like he will join K uni along with good boy image JD. K uni is perfect ! With JD and Stork !  | ||
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Souden
36 Posts
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ggsimida
1148 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4126 Posts
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
TvT vs Sea @Radeon W TvT vs Leta @Radeon L TvP vs Horang2 @Radeon W TvP vs Horang2 @Minstrel W TvP vs Best @Radeon L TvP vs Best @Pantheon L TvT vs 1888 @Radeon W TvT vs ---- @Dominator W TvT vs ---- @Dominator W TvT vs 2008 @DejaVu W TvP vs 2037 @DejaVu W TvT vs 2094 @FS W TvZ vs 2088 @Pantheon W TvZ vs 2169 @FS W TvP vs 2032 @Kickback W | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
Flash < Killer (2-0) Flash > Free Flash < Stork Flash > Mini Flash > Calm | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On October 21 2024 21:18 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Flash still in love with his Qsenn DT35 ps2 ready to dominate everyone again :D Is that really good keyboard or it's just what they used to since I heard every PC cafe had them. I might end up shipping a one to see it myself. | ||
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Glioburd
France1911 Posts
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`Myst
16 Posts
On October 21 2024 21:54 outscar wrote: Is that really good keyboard or it's just what they used to since I heard every PC cafe had them. I might end up shipping a one to see it myself. Its a $10 dollar rubber dome. Be ready to pay 10 times the price that it retails for in Korea. P.S. it wont make you as fast as Bisu/FlaSh sorry | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6548 Posts
On October 22 2024 01:44 `Myst wrote: Its a $10 dollar rubber dome. Be ready to pay 10 times the price that it retails for in Korea. Not worth. It is a membrana Keyboard so for the long term is already a bad buy. FlaSh and effort were the only progamers using this keyboard as far as i know. My recommendation for a nice keyboard is a mechanical keyboard with cherry silent switches. It is up to you to pick it TKL or not. | ||
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Expensive-Law-9830
129 Posts
On October 21 2024 22:18 Glioburd wrote: 25k viewers for FlaSh! Thats almost twenty times more than the entire sc2 scene on average | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7882 Posts
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TMNT
2649 Posts
On October 22 2024 04:47 Biff The Understudy wrote: Is it me or the money those guys can make off tournaments is probably peanuts compared to their streaming revenues? I guess winning ASLs boosts your viewership though. If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts. | ||
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fsdrewfsdgh
3 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On October 22 2024 05:10 TMNT wrote: If you won every ASL then it's not peanuts. But yeah, for most of them, peanuts. First is like 21k over the course of many years and ASLs that is like 340k if my numbers are right. Over that length of time it is peanuts though the total sum is a pretty nice stack. I'm not sure how much revenue Korean streamers generate nor how effective their money is, but that does seem like peanuts when compared to what very popular twitch streamers make per year, some of who beat that total sum many times over in just one year. Totally doubling down on my ignorance on how much streams make over there or how far money goes. | ||
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Expensive-Law-9830
129 Posts
On October 22 2024 12:33 NoobSkills wrote: First is like 21k over the course of many years and ASLs that is like 340k if my numbers are right. Over that length of time it is peanuts though the total sum is a pretty nice stack. I'm not sure how much revenue Korean streamers generate nor how effective their money is, but that does seem like peanuts when compared to what very popular twitch streamers make per year, some of who beat that total sum many times over in just one year. Totally doubling down on my ignorance on how much streams make over there or how far money goes. Daily proleague so far is 4.3 million and not even 2 years has passed.... And the crazy thing is the prize money keeps on increasing. 10k a day is low these days. And even that is low compared to the annual 8 million in donations cumulative to streamers. Even only a top 100 streamer can earn close to 100k these days, which only S class pros could have done during Kespa. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On October 22 2024 14:30 Expensive-Law-9830 wrote: Daily proleague so far is 4.3 million and not even 2 years has passed.... And the crazy thing is the prize money keeps on increasing. 10k a day is low these days. And even that is low compared to the annual 8 million in donations cumulative to streamers. Even only a top 100 streamer can earn close to 100k these days, which only S class pros could have done during Kespa. I tried to google it but I cannot find info on the proleague and prize pool. Someone said in another thread that the most recent match had a 10,000,000 KRW or like 7,000. I'm not sure of the prize pool split or whatever. So overall I'm not sure it speaks to how much or little money is made when compared to just streaming. This isn't me saying that is bad money for sort of a non-big-production proleague, just that it isn't anything that says that proleague or ASL or other small events is any better or worse than streaming. Obviously the very best of players probably win in both areas, but there are probably niche areas where some people do really well in one place or the other and make more money for themselves. Edit your last line, top 100 streaming earn 100k. Is this factual? That seems pretty good? Top 100 is people who can't even qualify for an ASL. Though I think streaming is random and it isn't always about who is best, can lean on personality and content. Still if the top 100 can earn 100k that leads me to think that flat out streaming is most profitable, but perhaps competition dives viewership as well. I'm sure if like stork or like speed went to the finals it would certainly drive their viewership higher. | ||
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