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Pros React To Sea's Legendary ASL S17 Run

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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 16:43:24
March 01 2024 15:42 GMT
#1


Sea's wall vs correct one
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Sea's party after ASL
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
March 01 2024 16:15 GMT
#2
Thank you Jinjin!

But please take a listen to what Artosis has to say about Sea's wall.... when every pro and even Sea himself laughs about it, Artosis says the wall is amazing etc...

Man, so many hours playing and comentating about BW and still ...
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7764 Posts
March 01 2024 16:16 GMT
#3
I'll even copy a very good comment from the video!

"That is a fascinating wall in"

"I'm actually getting shivers right now"

"A wall that might be fantastic to use"

"I'm actually gettin' chills"

"He might have solved the best way to wall in a position like that.""

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
March 01 2024 17:13 GMT
#4
Lol is that for real? Gameplay wise Tastosis commentary is embarassing compared to Nyoken + whoever at this point. Regularly missing important things on the screen like scouting pattern or build oder.

Like a couple of seasons ago they failed to spot Snow skipping goon range vs Light (the deciding factor of that game) despite the Korean observer repeatedly clicking on Snow's core.

But nothing can top last season Mini vs Sharp game when the observer desync happened and a tons of unit just appeared out of thin air for Mini yet both of them had no idea.
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic613 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 17:16:33
March 01 2024 17:14 GMT
#5
......
How may help u?
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
March 01 2024 17:19 GMT
#6
Anyway the video is hilarious.

Pusan's "it's totally different from playing at home in your underwear while scratching your balls" had me cracking
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10095 Posts
March 01 2024 17:58 GMT
#7
Having not been in the scene for a couple years now, when I first saw that wall, I was trying to find some reason to it. In my mind, Sea is a pro and I shouldn't question him too much, must just be 200 IQ wall. But yeah, it's terrible. Literally blocks nothing lol.
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Holint_Casazr
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Germany72 Posts
March 01 2024 18:30 GMT
#8
And I was thinking Gypsy was maybe a bit harsh on Sea during the cast (language wise), hilarious to see that the pros are even more direct/outspoken.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3344 Posts
March 01 2024 18:51 GMT
#9
On March 02 2024 02:19 TMNT wrote:
Anyway the video is hilarious.

Pusan's "it's totally different from playing at home in your underwear while scratching your balls" had me cracking


that followed by "even my mom would not lose from there" (for the game vs bisu) was hilarious, gotta watch him more often
Horang2 fan
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
March 01 2024 20:17 GMT
#10
On March 02 2024 02:58 FlaShFTW wrote:
Having not been in the scene for a couple years now, when I first saw that wall, I was trying to find some reason to it. In my mind, Sea is a pro and I shouldn't question him too much, must just be 200 IQ wall. But yeah, it's terrible. Literally blocks nothing lol.

That was a flex play and he was trying to be intimidating to Zelot like he knew he would win
Flash should fear Sacsri
gingerfluffmuffnr2
Profile Joined February 2024
107 Posts
March 01 2024 20:22 GMT
#11
On March 02 2024 02:13 TMNT wrote:
Lol is that for real? Gameplay wise Tastosis commentary is embarassing compared to Nyoken + whoever at this point. Regularly missing important things on the screen like scouting pattern or build oder.

Like a couple of seasons ago they failed to spot Snow skipping goon range vs Light (the deciding factor of that game) despite the Korean observer repeatedly clicking on Snow's core.

But nothing can top last season Mini vs Sharp game when the observer desync happened and a tons of unit just appeared out of thin air for Mini yet both of them had no idea.


Yeah, almost unwatchable. Nyoken and Gypsie and the rest drops so many knowledge bombs and general strat infos.

Damn good casting!
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-01 21:25:37
March 01 2024 21:03 GMT
#12
On March 02 2024 03:30 Holint_Casazr wrote:
And I was thinking Gypsy was maybe a bit harsh on Sea during the cast (language wise), hilarious to see that the pros are even more direct/outspoken.


lol not gonna lie having a balance of one caster being blunt AF and another one being more mild is the perfect combo

like Artosis and Tasteless are super hesitant to call out bad plays, but knowing Gypsy's personality from his gongshow F to S series, I knew he was going to bring the hot takes


Man, disappointed in Sea though
He has so much talent and was a beast in the Kespa days, and in the first couple of seasons of ASL he was beating Bisu, Best, and Hero

If someone locked him in a room with just SC he'd probably be crazy good
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1542 Posts
March 01 2024 21:31 GMT
#13
Pusan is hilarious, would love to hear him commentating games.

Thanks for the translation jinjin.
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jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
March 01 2024 22:46 GMT
#14
On March 02 2024 06:03 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2024 03:30 Holint_Casazr wrote:
And I was thinking Gypsy was maybe a bit harsh on Sea during the cast (language wise), hilarious to see that the pros are even more direct/outspoken.


lol not gonna lie having a balance of one caster being blunt AF and another one being more mild is the perfect combo

like Artosis and Tasteless are super hesitant to call out bad plays, but knowing Gypsy's personality from his gongshow F to S series, I knew he was going to bring the hot takes


Man, disappointed in Sea though
He has so much talent and was a beast in the Kespa days, and in the first couple of seasons of ASL he was beating Bisu, Best, and Hero

If someone locked him in a room with just SC he'd probably be crazy good


he would probably find way to install league


On March 02 2024 06:31 moktira wrote:
Pusan is hilarious, would love to hear him commentating games.

Thanks for the translation jinjin.


A lot of reaction videos from pros have pusan there ha
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3710 Posts
March 01 2024 22:51 GMT
#15
Oh wow, that's a brutal beating.
The banter is hilarious. They're all giving Sea a bashing, but I think they do it in a respectful manner considering how badly he messed up those games. If they wanted to be mean they could bury him lol

On a side note, I wasn't aware that Light went on a 16-0 TvT murder spree in February. Has he been carrying the terran flag all by himself?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
March 01 2024 23:10 GMT
#16
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States339 Posts
March 02 2024 00:06 GMT
#17
LMAO the after party celebration is so funny, thanks for the compilation jinjin!
MeIIOw
Profile Joined April 2020
United States76 Posts
March 02 2024 00:35 GMT
#18
Remember when sea punched that girl on stream and got canceled for a few days
remember that time idra was winning and he rage quit?
itsdaniel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Austria332 Posts
March 02 2024 02:57 GMT
#19
thank you ^^
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dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-02 03:43:54
March 02 2024 03:41 GMT
#20
On February 27 2024 07:24 FriedrichNietzsche wrote:
what a weird take

he qualified
What else really is there to it?




On February 27 2024 09:44 TMNT wrote:
so those 1000-hour-per-month players can only blame themselves for not beating those part time BW players full time variety streamers. And Zelot, who made it to the finals, lost fair and square to Sea as well.

Note that Sea played macro in all 3 games and Zelot was actually the one who cheesed in both of his games so I'm not sure why Sea is criticized for his body language. Personally I find his expressions funny tbh.




On February 27 2024 09:53 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Sea only deserves criticism for his lack of practice. But even his lack of practice is understandable. He's legitimately running a business. I expected Horang2 to qualify over Sea because Horang2 practiced like 5 times as much as Sea did. They only have themselves to blame for losing to Sea.



Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1010 Posts
March 02 2024 08:54 GMT
#21
Sea's last two seasons have been the worst showing in ASL history. It is embarassing to watch, but at least he seems to have the base skill to beat low tier progamers despite not practicing anything which is pretty impressive.
psd
Profile Joined February 2016
France91 Posts
March 02 2024 09:17 GMT
#22
Jeadong seems so polite x)
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey710 Posts
March 02 2024 10:54 GMT
#23
Thanks for the video pretty entertaining.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria358 Posts
March 02 2024 11:19 GMT
#24
Thanks jinjin, top entertainment, better than all 3 groups combined.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands739 Posts
March 02 2024 11:28 GMT
#25
On March 02 2024 17:54 Freezard wrote:
Sea's last two seasons have been the worst showing in ASL history. It is embarassing to watch, but at least he seems to have the base skill to beat low tier progamers despite not practicing anything which is pretty impressive.

its weird because Sea practiced quite a good amount back in october to january and then just stopped lol.
JDON MY SOUL!
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
March 02 2024 12:38 GMT
#26
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol
BW forever!
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2221 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-03 05:46:39
March 03 2024 05:46 GMT
#27
PuSan is me watching Tech play his BSL games.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-04 02:35:53
March 04 2024 02:35 GMT
#28
On March 02 2024 02:13 TMNT wrote:
Lol is that for real? Gameplay wise Tastosis commentary is embarassing compared to Nyoken + whoever at this point. Regularly missing important things on the screen like scouting pattern or build oder.

Like a couple of seasons ago they failed to spot Snow skipping goon range vs Light (the deciding factor of that game) despite the Korean observer repeatedly clicking on Snow's core.

But nothing can top last season Mini vs Sharp game when the observer desync happened and a tons of unit just appeared out of thin air for Mini yet both of them had no idea.


meanwhile in Tastosis' cast this game
Artosis "that is a fascinating wall, I'm actually getting shivers right now.
I literally never seen that.... like a wall that might be fantastic to use in certain positions like this that is super super super cool."
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
March 04 2024 11:32 GMT
#29
Ty for the translation jinjin, what a great video.
wat
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
March 04 2024 21:06 GMT
#30
On March 02 2024 21:38 HaFnium wrote:
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol


Pusan's mainstay in these type of videos, always good reactoins
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-05 01:21:24
March 04 2024 21:24 GMT
#31
On March 05 2024 06:06 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2024 21:38 HaFnium wrote:
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol


Pusan's mainstay in these type of videos, always good reactoins

Hey jinjinn + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong did a vod after being eliminated from ASL. Maybe there is something worth translating ? I think he mention something about not being used about playing offline so much anymore since they do it so little compared to Kespa days.
ASL SPOILERS
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-04 22:10:35
March 04 2024 22:08 GMT
#32
yo EonZerg maybe put a spoiler on that lol

definitely ruined it for me :\
I like starcraft
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
March 05 2024 00:24 GMT
#33
Mark the spoiler too for what it's about, definitely didn't expect spoilers about that here. ugh
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-05 02:42:33
March 05 2024 02:25 GMT
#34
On March 05 2024 06:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 06:06 jinjin5000 wrote:
On March 02 2024 21:38 HaFnium wrote:
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol


Pusan's mainstay in these type of videos, always good reactoins

Hey jinjinn + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong did a vod after being eliminated from ASL. Maybe there is something worth translating ? I think he mention something about not being used about playing offline so much anymore since they do it so little compared to Kespa days.
ASL SPOILERS


ASL Group D spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
It was more of him talking about how his gamestyle doesn't have his own identity anymore with it becoming less and less like him, with him trying to constantly catch-up to others, and he had a set plan to execute on Blitz but he kept having doubts and being afraid about it thinking as if he should just play as he should do in regular game. He said he became too scared with his own plays. He has too many self-doubts, whereas before in his hayday, he just disregarded those and just went in headfirst without any fear.

He admitted that he wasn't meticulous or huge on details back when he was a progamer, nor did he abuse mindgames that hard and he just went with the flow. But as he aged, he can no longer keep up with that. He says his gamestyle and preferences overall actually didn't change that much but it just doesn't work as well nowadays

He is trying to fix his style but he admits that it's hard as it's bit ingrained into him.

vs shuttle, it was all but won game but he forgot +1 attack when doing 5h hydra

he honestly felt like he was playing lot better than he did 6 month ago but he lost so it's a shame
ruhtraeel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada115 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-05 05:38:08
March 05 2024 05:36 GMT
#35
On March 05 2024 11:25 jinjin5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 06:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:06 jinjin5000 wrote:
On March 02 2024 21:38 HaFnium wrote:
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol


Pusan's mainstay in these type of videos, always good reactoins

Hey jinjinn + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong did a vod after being eliminated from ASL. Maybe there is something worth translating ? I think he mention something about not being used about playing offline so much anymore since they do it so little compared to Kespa days.
ASL SPOILERS


ASL Group D spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
It was more of him talking about how his gamestyle doesn't have his own identity anymore with it becoming less and less like him, with him trying to constantly catch-up to others, and he had a set plan to execute on Blitz but he kept having doubts and being afraid about it thinking as if he should just play as he should do in regular game. He said he became too scared with his own plays. He has too many self-doubts, whereas before in his hayday, he just disregarded those and just went in headfirst without any fear.

He admitted that he wasn't meticulous or huge on details back when he was a progamer, nor did he abuse mindgames that hard and he just went with the flow. But as he aged, he can no longer keep up with that. He says his gamestyle and preferences overall actually didn't change that much but it just doesn't work as well nowadays

He is trying to fix his style but he admits that it's hard as it's bit ingrained into him.

vs shuttle, it was all but won game but he forgot +1 attack when doing 5h hydra

he honestly felt like he was playing lot better than he did 6 month ago but he lost so it's a shame



+ Show Spoiler +
I'm hoping he doesn't get too discouraged and keeps trying, even though his effort hasn't panned out just yet. He's basically relied on the same aggressive style for the past 20 years, and it's gonna take a lot of work to make the switch to adaptability and macro play, but it can definitely be done (ex. Light was terrible at everything except for TvZ for like 15 years, but he finally rounded himself out and became one of the best players right now)

Ever since KSL season 1, I feel like his usual style has been completely figured out now by other players
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
March 06 2024 19:59 GMT
#36
On March 05 2024 14:36 ruhtraeel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2024 11:25 jinjin5000 wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On March 05 2024 06:06 jinjin5000 wrote:
On March 02 2024 21:38 HaFnium wrote:
Thanks jinjin

Love Pusan's reactions!

Nyoken and Gypsy's cast is also really good at one stage Gypsy was saying are we wathching bsl or asl lol


Pusan's mainstay in these type of videos, always good reactoins

Hey jinjinn + Show Spoiler +
Jaedong did a vod after being eliminated from ASL. Maybe there is something worth translating ? I think he mention something about not being used about playing offline so much anymore since they do it so little compared to Kespa days.
ASL SPOILERS


ASL Group D spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
It was more of him talking about how his gamestyle doesn't have his own identity anymore with it becoming less and less like him, with him trying to constantly catch-up to others, and he had a set plan to execute on Blitz but he kept having doubts and being afraid about it thinking as if he should just play as he should do in regular game. He said he became too scared with his own plays. He has too many self-doubts, whereas before in his hayday, he just disregarded those and just went in headfirst without any fear.

He admitted that he wasn't meticulous or huge on details back when he was a progamer, nor did he abuse mindgames that hard and he just went with the flow. But as he aged, he can no longer keep up with that. He says his gamestyle and preferences overall actually didn't change that much but it just doesn't work as well nowadays

He is trying to fix his style but he admits that it's hard as it's bit ingrained into him.

vs shuttle, it was all but won game but he forgot +1 attack when doing 5h hydra

he honestly felt like he was playing lot better than he did 6 month ago but he lost so it's a shame



+ Show Spoiler +
I'm hoping he doesn't get too discouraged and keeps trying, even though his effort hasn't panned out just yet. He's basically relied on the same aggressive style for the past 20 years, and it's gonna take a lot of work to make the switch to adaptability and macro play, but it can definitely be done (ex. Light was terrible at everything except for TvZ for like 15 years, but he finally rounded himself out and became one of the best players right now)

Ever since KSL season 1, I feel like his usual style has been completely figured out now by other players



+ Show Spoiler +
no worries, he said he will try harder next asl
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