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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands944 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-07 23:57:19
January 07 2024 23:56 GMT
#81
On January 08 2024 08:35 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2024 02:12 quaristice wrote:
remembering how day[9] said in a video "i hope savior dies"

and then i compare rapid and savior's situations and how the community at large reacted, and so on.

it says a lot about people's priorities and what they find valuable. i don't mean to minimize savior's behavior, i think savior *should* be banned for life. but then you have this situation which is definitely worse by any reasonable metric.


Funny you saying that. What Savior did was ten times worse than what Rapid is accused of. Savior single-handedly destroyed BW scene. If Rapid did what he did at that era no one would give a flying shit about it. Times change.


It wasn't just SaviOr, but he for sure was the biggest name involved. A dozen players were involved. Because a dozen players were directly involved or implicated its scale was much bigger than had it been just Savior. A dozen players meant an organized collective effort to match fix, which put everything at stake.
JDON MY SOUL!
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1167 Posts
January 08 2024 12:39 GMT
#82
There is no room for comparison.

One is the single most influential Zerg of all time, and the other is a no-name noob caster, for whom nobody cares. Just stop the spam and let go.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
January 08 2024 13:19 GMT
#83
Let's enjoy!

25th Anniversary LAN - Day 1 - RO16 Group A - UltrA, OyA, Jumper, iopq - Thailand Phuket StarCraft



and this is my channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvFXl9sXz4mLalvFn0g27Gg
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5092 Posts
January 08 2024 13:35 GMT
#84
Yeah. Nice. Let's enjoy Rapid's casting (again) /s

Also do you think this is the right place to advertise your own channel?


I don't really understand why Rapid is being uploaded on the BSL YT after all this. I would not have, at least not without a note or some kind of short intro addressing it. Even without knowing all this drama: BSL still has Rapid banned.
FBH #1!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1521 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-08 15:00:32
January 08 2024 15:00 GMT
#85
There is a note in the description. Someone in the comment asked about it and I decided to add it.

I was wondering if I should upload those vods, but I decided that StarCraft value of those games and LAN atmosphere would be sad to miss.

https://www.patreon.com/Bombastic || https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague || https://linktr.ee/bombastic
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10175 Posts
January 08 2024 16:11 GMT
#86
The way that other gaming communities approached such issues, historically, was to just mute the voice of the offenders in the VODs. I think that could have been a good option over giving Rapid even more of a platform. Feels very "We're sorry."



If there is no material change, then it can be said that all of this was ultimately of no consequence, which seems pretty convenient for some. Don't think it's worth discussing at length, though; it is what it is.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
January 08 2024 16:19 GMT
#87
On January 08 2024 02:12 quaristice wrote:
remembering how day[9] said in a video "i hope savior dies"

and then i compare rapid and savior's situations and how the community at large reacted, and so on.

it says a lot about people's priorities and what they find valuable. i don't mean to minimize savior's behavior, i think savior *should* be banned for life. but then you have this situation which is definitely worse by any reasonable metric.

Do you have a link to this video?
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada762 Posts
January 08 2024 16:29 GMT
#88
On January 08 2024 22:19 bovienchien wrote:
Let's enjoy!

25th Anniversary LAN - Day 1 - RO16 Group A - UltrA, OyA, Jumper, iopq - Thailand Phuket StarCraft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds_1BRG_67w

and this is my channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvFXl9sXz4mLalvFn0g27Gg


That’s crazy that you thought it was appropriate to post and promote new Rapid videos and your own channel in this thread.

I understand Zeros point of view where he doesn’t want the content to go to waste but I would of muted the sound (I know it’s a shitty solution) or muted the sound and tried to get the games recasted by someone else.
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16765 Posts
January 08 2024 19:50 GMT
#89
On January 08 2024 21:39 BlueStar wrote:
There is no room for comparison.
One is the single most influential Zerg of all time, and the other is a no-name noob caster, for whom nobody cares. Just stop the spam and let go.

noob?
nah, his analysis is not noob level. when criticizing you should use more well defined terms though.

nobody? don't try to speak for everyone. as far as being , "no-name" , who the hell wants to be famous these days? with all the doxxing and swatting going on.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1521 Posts
January 08 2024 20:30 GMT
#90
On January 09 2024 01:11 Jealous wrote:
If there is no material change, then it can be said that all of this was ultimately of no consequence, which seems pretty convenient for some. Don't think it's worth discussing at length, though; it is what it is.


OH REALLY ?

What would you say about the fact, that I had a multiple days after the event ruined because members of the community I work my ass off for, decided to make a coalition against me and to ask people to stop supporting me and my projects ?

What would you say about them going towards reddit, twitter and anywhere they could think of to post this, but when I added a statement and told the truth, they didn't even bother to make another topic with their statement, but added their "position" in the edited post which no one reads ?

How would you feel if you would work your ass off for 10 hours a day for four days straight without even time to eat, and see posts like this as a thank you ? When none of the signed people who made this coalition didn't even bothered to PM me and ask what happened ?

What about the fact that your actions caused me to lose $200/mo+ on the Patreon and who knows how many potential viewers ?

Not to mention that no one gives a shit about the event, production and the games, but everyone is focused on this shitstorm.

Sorry man, but I guess I had enough consequences for one misjudgement.



Regarding uploading the vods on YT, I added info in the description of eac hvideo, I will pin each video with the comment and make post on YT community:
"Nothing changed in the topic of Rapid and he is still banned from casting BSL, he was casting only during the first day of the LAN as a misstake. There is a thread on tl.net where I explain how it happened. I was wondering if I should upload those vods, but I decided that StarCraft value of those games and LAN atmosphere would be sad to miss. Also it would be unfair towards the players who came to Thailand on their own expense, to cut their games out."
https://www.patreon.com/Bombastic || https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Bombastic_StarLeague || https://linktr.ee/bombastic
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1167 Posts
January 08 2024 21:35 GMT
#91
On January 09 2024 04:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2024 21:39 BlueStar wrote:
There is no room for comparison.
One is the single most influential Zerg of all time, and the other is a no-name noob caster, for whom nobody cares. Just stop the spam and let go.

noob?
nah, his analysis is not noob level. when criticizing you should use more well defined terms though.

nobody? don't try to speak for everyone. as far as being , "no-name" , who the hell wants to be famous these days? with all the doxxing and swatting going on.

are you his gf?
what's wrong with you?
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
January 08 2024 21:50 GMT
#92
I feel like people want to milk this thread until the last ounce of drama is sucked out of it. So I'm just gonna lock it. If you have any new information, or want to discuss something that wasn't already discussed to death, please open a new thread.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
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