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KoveN-
Profile Joined October 2004
Australia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-16 06:18:24
November 16 2007 06:17 GMT
#141
Flash will be the new prodigy
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 16 2007 08:53 GMT
#142
On November 16 2007 15:02 GTR-2-Go wrote:
I reckon also players need to have played for atleast 2 years before they are capable of being bonjwa.

Bisu had his first 1v1 in SKY 2005 PL R2
Savior had his first 1v1 in a MBC Teamleague in 2004 (I think?)
Oov has his first 1v1 in the KTF Ever Cup in 2003 (I think)
Nada had his first 1v1 somewhere in 2002.

So the next Bonjwa will have to be debuted in 2006.


Hmm, Nada did play his first official 1v1 in 2002 but the first MSL he won started 2 months later. Same for Oov who had his first 1v1 in 2003. UZOO started started 5 months later. Both Savior and Bisu had been around for about one year and a half though.

So I don't think it's a 'constant', but if there's gonna be a new one it's indeed not impossible that we already know him.
Administrator
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
November 16 2007 08:56 GMT
#143
Bisu will win MSL and OSL and 3 times more in a row ;-)
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
November 16 2007 09:17 GMT
#144
Also, to be bonjwa, you need at least as many vowels as consonants in your name

Nada (2 vowels, 2 consonants)
Iloveoov (5 vowels, 3 consonants)
Savior (3 vowels, 3 consonants)
Bisu (2 vowels, 2 consonants)

In fact, when Savior was named IPXZERG (2 vowels, 5 consonants) he wasn't bonjwa, but once he changed his name he became bonjwa

So according to this, Flash has no chance. Jaedong misses by 1 letter.

Free, though, is a candidate, so is Anytime, so is Sea.
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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-16 09:38:17
November 16 2007 09:37 GMT
#145
Your theory fails, HB. Bisu[Shield], aka Bisu's real nickname, has four vowels for a whopping six consonants.

And don't argue that clan names don't count.
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Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
November 16 2007 09:38 GMT
#146
Sea... when was he born?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 16 2007 09:48 GMT
#147
On November 16 2007 14:55 SeBASTa wrote:
here's my opinion:

Nada is the first Bonjwa and he got 3 MSL and ended up with 3 OSL
Oov owns Nada and he's got 2 OSL titles
Savior owns oov and he has 1 OSL title
Bisu owns Savior and so...
I think Bisu really is gonna win his third MSL but he will never achieve the victory at OSL...

I hope I am right


You are not.

First bonjwa? Grrr, perhaps (though debatable). Boxer was definitely bonjwa and he came before Nada.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-16 09:59:41
November 16 2007 09:58 GMT
#148
On November 16 2007 18:48 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2007 14:55 SeBASTa wrote:
here's my opinion:

Nada is the first Bonjwa and he got 3 MSL and ended up with 3 OSL
Oov owns Nada and he's got 2 OSL titles
Savior owns oov and he has 1 OSL title
Bisu owns Savior and so...
I think Bisu really is gonna win his third MSL but he will never achieve the victory at OSL...

I hope I am right


You are not.

First bonjwa? Grrr, perhaps (though debatable). Boxer was definitely bonjwa and he came before Nada.

oh no, the only word that can describe SlayerS_'BoxeR' is HIM. Because he didn't get jinxed by any of the Bonjwas
Grrrr...? lol?
En Taro Terran
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
November 16 2007 10:11 GMT
#149
On November 16 2007 18:48 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2007 14:55 SeBASTa wrote:
here's my opinion:

Nada is the first Bonjwa and he got 3 MSL and ended up with 3 OSL
Oov owns Nada and he's got 2 OSL titles
Savior owns oov and he has 1 OSL title
Bisu owns Savior and so...
I think Bisu really is gonna win his third MSL but he will never achieve the victory at OSL...

I hope I am right


You are not.

First bonjwa? Grrr, perhaps (though debatable). Boxer was definitely bonjwa and he came before Nada.
i think you need to win 3 msls in a row? unless im mistaken
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-11-16 10:14:28
November 16 2007 10:14 GMT
#150
On November 16 2007 19:11 We Are Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2007 18:48 mensrea wrote:
On November 16 2007 14:55 SeBASTa wrote:
here's my opinion:

Nada is the first Bonjwa and he got 3 MSL and ended up with 3 OSL
Oov owns Nada and he's got 2 OSL titles
Savior owns oov and he has 1 OSL title
Bisu owns Savior and so...
I think Bisu really is gonna win his third MSL but he will never achieve the victory at OSL...

I hope I am right


You are not.

First bonjwa? Grrr, perhaps (though debatable). Boxer was definitely bonjwa and he came before Nada.
i think you need to win 3 msls in a row? unless im mistaken


not absolutely, savior 3 out of 4 MSL, he lost to Chojja in his second shot

En Taro Terran
aeronexus
Profile Joined June 2007
United States392 Posts
November 16 2007 10:20 GMT
#151
lol this is cool

boxer was taken down by oov though, yeah? (I should read up on my StarLeague history >.<)
10 points!
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
November 16 2007 10:21 GMT
#152
yea i remember that osl, oov looked sad to have won it. i think he had even said that he wanted his 'master' to win it, and that marine rush was crazy :O
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 16 2007 11:21 GMT
#153
On November 16 2007 18:58 SeBASTa wrote:

Grrrr...? lol?



Until you can demonstrate to me in-depth knowledge of the history of the pro scene in Korea beyond the ability to regurgitate some superficial factoids that you happened across while surfing for vods, I suggest you keep your hopelessly sophomoric opinions to yourself.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 16 2007 11:25 GMT
#154
mensrea is completely right

there was a period of like two years where grrrr was pretty much untouchable
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
November 16 2007 12:01 GMT
#155
On November 16 2007 20:21 mensrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2007 18:58 SeBASTa wrote:

Grrrr...? lol?



Until you can demonstrate to me in-depth knowledge of the history of the pro scene in Korea beyond the ability to regurgitate some superficial factoids that you happened across while surfing for vods, I suggest you keep your hopelessly sophomoric opinions to yourself.


I might not be capable of debating with you, but i wont take your advice
En Taro Terran
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
November 16 2007 12:01 GMT
#156
Not sure if he followed progaming during grr's time. I know i didnt but i know he was really good in his prime. Even my friends who casually or dont follow progaming when they think of foreign progamers only one names sticks out. Guillaume(think thats how you spell his name right?)
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
November 16 2007 12:18 GMT
#157
he's good
he was probably the best back then. but I doubt his qualification for being consider as a bonjwa.

But, the only reason I lol@him is, he seemed not concerned when he was going downwards. He fell, not because of his capability, but he did not pay much attention to this game any more. In this regards, Guillaume Patry is not in the same calibre with Lim yo-hwan or any successors
En Taro Terran
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
November 16 2007 13:04 GMT
#158
What exactly is your definition of "bonjwa"?
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
November 16 2007 13:11 GMT
#159
dominating everyone else and never losing when it matters over a certain span of time
I think it's hard to find a accurate definition for a figure like this

bonjwa is bonjwa only because most of the people recognize him/her as a bonjwa

I just doubt most of the people will recognize Grrrr... as one
En Taro Terran
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
November 16 2007 13:16 GMT
#160
On November 16 2007 21:18 SeBASTa wrote:
he's good
he was probably the best back then. but I doubt his qualification for being consider as a bonjwa.

But, the only reason I lol@him is, he seemed not concerned when he was going downwards. He fell, not because of his capability, but he did not pay much attention to this game any more. In this regards, Guillaume Patry is not in the same calibre with Lim yo-hwan or any successors


same with all the other bonjwas they started getting fame and dominating then they started going out way more banging fan girls etc buying luxury items and they all went down hill

look at savior now, he bought a car lOL WHY DOES HE NEED A CAR
why so 진지해?
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