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Is Starcraft Remastered a waste of time ? - Page 2

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Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
April 13 2023 17:15 GMT
#21
Like Hawk said it is fun, just like watching a movie or any other leisurely activity that doesn't improve you. Another thing not mentioned is community, SCBW has an awesome community from CPL to BSL, hell look at this forum that we are on
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
526 Posts
April 13 2023 18:04 GMT
#22
Gaming is a waste of time!
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
April 13 2023 18:05 GMT
#23
On April 14 2023 03:04 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Gaming is a waste of time!


Not if you earn a living off of it. Like Artosis.
-.-
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10010 Posts
April 13 2023 18:54 GMT
#24
like Hawk2 said, it's as simple as that
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4197 Posts
April 13 2023 19:20 GMT
#25
Not really, if you're enjoying yourself and have your priorities straight .
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1922 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-13 19:29:42
April 13 2023 19:29 GMT
#26
On April 14 2023 03:04 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
Gaming is a waste of time!


This is a great philosophical topic! It depends on where you want to sink in your hours, and we do have a choice! Activities a lot of people spend a LOT of time on in a similar category to gaming include:
-Watching series and movies
-Watching sports
-Reading entertainment litterature
-Browsing social media, follow influencers

Some are more serious about gaming, and have it as a hobby, and might even have important social relations in gaming. Then, it would be closer to activities like:
-Organized sports
-Excercise, beyond what your body needs.
-Studying something for your own enjoyment
-Hunting, collecting, clubbing, crafting, refurbishing or any other hobby people have for mostly selfish reasons.

So, what is a "waste of time", really? If playing a game adds enough to your life according to your personal preferences, then why not go for it? Especially sinking mindless hours into the 4 first categories can arguably be WORSE than playing an demnding, competetive RTS.
Buff the siegetank
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 13 2023 20:06 GMT
#27
Not in Korea! So move to Korea.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland264 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-13 20:31:43
April 13 2023 20:29 GMT
#28
Any game is a waste of time if you don't do it professionally or treat it as a form of entertainment. Playing games should be treated like reading a book, watching a movie or series or something like that, it's just another form of entertainment in the modern world. If you treat the game differently, or if you don't enjoy the game but just tryhard under heavy stress, then you need to change your attitude or your game, because you are actually wasting your time. For me, Starcraft was great until I had a lot of time, playing regularly allowed me to keep some level close to my "max", but as soon as I stopped playing regularly, after a month's break, I felt like I missed a year of training, went back a year in skills. It was very frustrating, and I have to admit that the gameplay itself also stressed me out, especially 1v1, and since there was no 2v2 ladder in the remaster, it was the final nail in the coffin. Ultimately, for these reasons, after 20 years of playing SC, I started playing something else where a month break doesn't make me feel like I'm a newbie again, every game doesn't stress me out, and I feel like I'm just having a good time, what after years of playing SC was impossible.
Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19246 Posts
April 13 2023 21:43 GMT
#29
You play the game so you can understand why Bisu is a handsome god and appreciate him more when he plays.

“Play unto thyself so he can play unto you” ~ Church of BSports 4:13
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Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 13 2023 22:01 GMT
#30
On April 13 2023 23:17 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2023 22:30 Jubinell wrote:
On April 13 2023 18:45 Peeano wrote:
There are tons of better single player games, but BW is the best multiplayer game. The best RTS by far. Chess is boring since it comes with it's own permanent maphack and you'll always have to wait your opponent's next move. You may as well play HoMM 3 if you enjoy waiting for your opponent to make his moves.

Moving units, micro, in BW requires skill, moving a chess piece doesn't. BW has sound, chess doesn't. In BW you can always play better, in chess you cannot. Remastered added more colours to embrace gender-/sexuality positivity. Meanwhile chess is still racist, black vs white. Chess only seems sophisticated because there is checkers. BW is sophiscated regardless whether SC2 is there or not. I could continue, but you should have caught my drift by now.


Chess is a 2 Billion USD Market . Starcraft? Maybe 2 billion wons?


Are you playing chess professionally? If not, the money in it is irrelevant, a lot of us play football or other sports, it s so many billions dollars worldwide but it doesnt matter because we re not making any money of it, if anything we re losing money by paying for season fees etc.

Leonix it comes down to what you like to do, if you enjoy the game at times (any game) then i d argue it s worth it for you, personally.
It could be chess, playing an instrument, having a drink, whatever, that s your life. Not anything has to be money making or grand standing.
Sure if you could cure cancer or play bw, perhaps cancer research should come first but otherwise do what you want with your time. There is no meaning to existence but what we make of it

This. With most hobbies (including competition or not), you just end up spending more and more money on equipment etc. until you go pro.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5028 Posts
April 13 2023 22:27 GMT
#31
On April 14 2023 06:43 BisuDagger wrote:
You play the game so you can understand why Bisu is a handsome god and appreciate him more when he plays.

“Play unto thyself so he can play unto you” ~ Church of BSports 4:13

Which psalm is the one where a man offers his daughter to the handsome god as soon as she reached legal age?
FBH #1!
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
April 14 2023 00:01 GMT
#32
SC is still a really good game as long as you're enjoying yourself, its worth it. Its the last of its breed, when games actually required skill and difficulty levels weren't catered to a group of people. I understand from developers perspective but theres very few things more satisfying then improving at something that is super hard to master. Sc, just has layers and layers of complexity despite the limited and simplicity of the units.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey736 Posts
April 14 2023 04:26 GMT
#33
For professional purposes yes otherwise no.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-14 05:44:17
April 14 2023 05:43 GMT
#34
On April 13 2023 22:30 Jubinell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2023 18:45 Peeano wrote:
There are tons of better single player games, but BW is the best multiplayer game. The best RTS by far. Chess is boring since it comes with it's own permanent maphack and you'll always have to wait your opponent's next move. You may as well play HoMM 3 if you enjoy waiting for your opponent to make his moves.

Moving units, micro, in BW requires skill, moving a chess piece doesn't. BW has sound, chess doesn't. In BW you can always play better, in chess you cannot. Remastered added more colours to embrace gender-/sexuality positivity. Meanwhile chess is still racist, black vs white. Chess only seems sophisticated because there is checkers. BW is sophiscated regardless whether SC2 is there or not. I could continue, but you should have caught my drift by now.


Chess is a 2 Billion USD Market . Starcraft? Maybe 2 billion wons?

lmao yeah this is why i play basketball in the park, because one day, i will make the NBA

edit: golden state warriors are worth 7 billion
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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-14 06:13:14
April 14 2023 06:13 GMT
#35
I have given this a lot of thought, and my conclusion is that yes, BW is a waste of time. But! It is a waste of my time, which I wasn't doing anything better with anyway.
The frumious Bandersnatch
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1572 Posts
April 14 2023 08:25 GMT
#36
On April 13 2023 19:19 iFU.spx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2023 18:45 Peeano wrote:
Remastered added more colours to embrace gender-/sexuality positivity. Meanwhile chess is still racist, black vs white.


Excuse me, was it a joke or you seriously called chess racist?


First time I hear this as well. Hilarious. Must be Woke level thought process.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5028 Posts
April 14 2023 09:20 GMT
#37
You monkeys. It's obvious af.

I really shouldn't have to explain what is and isn't sarcasm to long time TL members. Perhaps to a new member and/or snowflake I would have to, then I will.
FBH #1!
ash.]Rancor[
Profile Joined December 2020
Germany29 Posts
April 14 2023 09:34 GMT
#38
No. Starcraft can teach you a lot:
self control
discipline
creativity
motivation
multitasking
logical connections
cognitive abillities
hand eye coordination
better eyesight
improve ability to make precide decisions in a short amount of time
learn to lose
memory training
reaction speed
etc.


Hatred outlives the hateful.
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
April 14 2023 10:13 GMT
#39
On April 14 2023 18:34 ash.]Rancor[ wrote:
No. Starcraft can teach you a lot:
self control
discipline
creativity
motivation
multitasking
logical connections
cognitive abillities
hand eye coordination
better eyesight
improve ability to make precide decisions in a short amount of time
learn to lose
memory training
reaction speed
etc.




i learned a lot of insults in foreign languages.
sex dog pussy hair
Lavalisk
Profile Joined July 2020
Argentina47 Posts
April 14 2023 12:47 GMT
#40
On April 13 2023 18:45 Peeano wrote:
Remastered added more colours to embrace gender-/sexuality positivity.

Extremely unlikely assumption.

On April 13 2023 18:45 Peeano wrote:
Meanwhile chess is still racist, black vs white.

Fallacious assumption about the creator's intentions. Even if true (which is impossible to tell), chess was racist.

Back on topic. I play StarCraft and occasionally chess, and I still have time to finish my PhD. The issue is when you invest excessive time on a game.
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