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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 15 2007 17:16 GMT
#81
i knew you did it wufan! ^^
GJ
And all is illuminated.
wcg2007pj
Profile Joined October 2007
32 Posts
October 15 2007 17:21 GMT
#82
sktelecom t1 is good at countering savior-alike progamers.
well played by pj! goodgame!!
sktelecom t1!!! SAVIOR IS A MAP SPECIALIST.
sztuczyn
Profile Joined October 2003
Poland694 Posts
October 15 2007 17:41 GMT
#83
Yeah, especially iloveoov ^^
:(
Darki[Per]
Profile Joined November 2005
Peru689 Posts
October 15 2007 18:08 GMT
#84
really well played by pj he played a straight game and win vs a progamer really nice
El Papitoss
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 15 2007 18:14 GMT
#85
Pj played very good. Even in the game he lost.

And savior was horrible. Just horrible.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Hwasingodly
Profile Joined October 2007
Peru4 Posts
October 15 2007 18:23 GMT
#86
These are wonder games. Thanks to korean expert players we continue to be entertained... Hope that the companies support korea gamers by giving replays soon :D
Respect the unrespected for truly are their failures the burden of your success
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
October 15 2007 18:36 GMT
#87
On October 16 2007 03:23 Hwasingodly wrote:
These are wonder games. Thanks to korean expert players we continue to be entertained... Hope that the companies support korea gamers by giving replays soon :D
ç

Carlodajin?
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
wcg2007pj
Profile Joined October 2007
32 Posts
October 15 2007 18:42 GMT
#88
On October 16 2007 03:36 skindzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2007 03:23 Hwasingodly wrote:
These are wonder games. Thanks to korean expert players we continue to be entertained... Hope that the companies support korea gamers by giving replays soon :D
ç

Carlodajin?

why? care to explain?
sktelecom t1!!! SAVIOR IS A MAP SPECIALIST.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
October 15 2007 18:48 GMT
#89
So WCG2007 replays will not be released except for these leaked ones (thx Wufan)? Why????
too easy
Red_Dragon
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Croatia2862 Posts
October 15 2007 18:50 GMT
#90
Outstanding play by PJ, very good BO, decision making and control of the game. I see he took notes from Bisu Savior in my opinion played well to some level, but PJ simply came better prepared.
Climbing walls of an endless circle
PissedOffEmo
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada777 Posts
October 15 2007 18:53 GMT
#91
Pj and sav should have a rematch on the same maps, because clearly nobody is giving pj credit for playing better its because saviour played bad..lol
Shit happens and then you die
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
October 15 2007 19:00 GMT
#92
On October 16 2007 03:53 PissedOffEmo wrote:
Pj and sav should have a rematch on the same maps, because clearly nobody is giving pj credit for playing better its because saviour played bad..lol

I also hate this attitude, everytime non-korean wins vs pro, its cause the pro played bad, didnt give a flying fuck, is in bad shape etc...
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
October 15 2007 19:09 GMT
#93
thank you wufan!
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5421 Posts
October 15 2007 19:24 GMT
#94
On October 16 2007 03:48 exalted wrote:
So WCG2007 replays will not be released except for these leaked ones (thx Wufan)? Why????


Why do you think that? These just got leaked early.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
October 15 2007 20:46 GMT
#95
On October 16 2007 03:53 PissedOffEmo wrote:
Pj and sav should have a rematch on the same maps, because clearly nobody is giving pj credit for playing better its because saviour played bad..lol


http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games/vs-P

PJ must be the PvZ god then.
The_Marine
Profile Joined March 2005
Malta46 Posts
October 15 2007 21:34 GMT
#96
On October 15 2007 18:59 .dragoon wrote:
I dunno what you guys are talking about.

Game 2 savior did not bother to replace his pool after losing it, instead he went pure hydra mid-game and lost. Game 3 savior had half the supply of troops of P the whole game. He was severely out-macroed and the P played cautious or he'd have cut the time down by half.

Games 2 and 3 are some of the worst savior games I've ever seen. I'm not even sure he knows the maps very well.


in game 2 if you watch closely his economy is fucked up, he can't replace the pool right away
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 22:19:29
October 15 2007 22:15 GMT
#97
I just finished watching them. Only watched with savior's vision, so I can only comment on PJ's play to the extent that savior scouted.

+ Show Spoiler +

Game1 Savior really hurt PJ with that smart move to weaken and then take out PJ's nat nexus. Seemed like savior took his sweet time after that, though credit should be given to PJ for that. PJ defended his expos really well considering the use of mass plague, imo.

Game2 PJ just outplayed savior, imo. The fast drop was very smart and devastating. PJ sealed the deal when he started using reavers at savior's nat. PJ gave savior a little too much credit in this game, imo... he could've ended it quite a bit sooner than he did. Still, it was a nice performance by PJ.

Game3 I'm sorry, I know PJ fans are pissed at people saying savior didn't care, but this almost looks like a thrown game. Just watch savior. He opens 9 pool speedling 13 hat expo on gaia, then while his lings fail to do anything he sets up a contain and masses creeps. Then when the contain fails he masses sunkens like crazy-- I don't know korean, so I can't say for sure, but the sunken formations almost look like writing. By the time he's done making sunkens he's unrecognizable as savior, imo. Meanwhile, none of savior's super defensive plays seem necessary. Just watching savior's side of things, I can't see why he went berserk with static defense. PJ's play did not, to me, seem to require such an enormous turtle. Savior's opening hurt his own economy enough, I'm not sure 2341234 sunkens is the best way to recover your economy. If savior was playing seriously, he severely underestimated PJ.


Thanks for sharing the replays ^^
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
October 16 2007 03:47 GMT
#98
Game 2 he didnt rebuild his spawning pool quickly because he didnt need it. mass hydra is the better counter to goon/reaver
#1 Terran hater
Darki[Per]
Profile Joined November 2005
Peru689 Posts
October 16 2007 03:54 GMT
#99
yeah well savior played kinda bad (bad for a pro) but anyways pj won playing really good and with all the stress of playing such an important event i think you guys dont have the right to even consider "pj won just because savior played sucky"
El Papitoss
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 16 2007 03:59 GMT
#100
On October 16 2007 07:15 Tadzio00 wrote:
I just finished watching them. Only watched with savior's vision, so I can only comment on PJ's play to the extent that savior scouted.

+ Show Spoiler +

Game1 Savior really hurt PJ with that smart move to weaken and then take out PJ's nat nexus. Seemed like savior took his sweet time after that, though credit should be given to PJ for that. PJ defended his expos really well considering the use of mass plague, imo.

Game2 PJ just outplayed savior, imo. The fast drop was very smart and devastating. PJ sealed the deal when he started using reavers at savior's nat. PJ gave savior a little too much credit in this game, imo... he could've ended it quite a bit sooner than he did. Still, it was a nice performance by PJ.

Game3 I'm sorry, I know PJ fans are pissed at people saying savior didn't care, but this almost looks like a thrown game. Just watch savior. He opens 9 pool speedling 13 hat expo on gaia, then while his lings fail to do anything he sets up a contain and masses creeps. Then when the contain fails he masses sunkens like crazy-- I don't know korean, so I can't say for sure, but the sunken formations almost look like writing. By the time he's done making sunkens he's unrecognizable as savior, imo. Meanwhile, none of savior's super defensive plays seem necessary. Just watching savior's side of things, I can't see why he went berserk with static defense. PJ's play did not, to me, seem to require such an enormous turtle. Savior's opening hurt his own economy enough, I'm not sure 2341234 sunkens is the best way to recover your economy. If savior was playing seriously, he severely underestimated PJ.


Thanks for sharing the replays ^^


game 3 was fixed
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
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