• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:01
CEST 07:01
KST 14:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202578RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder0EWC 2025 - Replay Pack1Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced26BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 EWC 2025 - Replay Pack Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 I offer completely free coaching services
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Dewalt's Show Matches in China BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 589 users

WCG2007 Pj vs ipxzerg 3 game - Page 4

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
October 15 2007 10:07 GMT
#61
If I didn't see these games on youtube already I would've thought these replays were fake. Savior really played horribly
denyo77
Profile Joined August 2005
Barbados220 Posts
October 15 2007 10:16 GMT
#62
wufan
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
October 15 2007 10:21 GMT
#63
On October 15 2007 14:00 LoveandPeace wrote:
i don't understand why Savior lost so bad. He did say he wanted to win WCG. I assumed that the reason why he wasn't playing like his old self all year is because he was too preoccupied with WCG practicing. Now this, and not only did he play poorly, but he seriously played like he didn't care.

Why did he lose so badly? It wasn't even close.



they came from korea,

maybe he wasnt feeling well or something. Im sure he cared, not caring is a load of bullshit. Theres 15k to win
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 10:43:31
October 15 2007 10:43 GMT
#64
I always wondered, does JetLag ruin their game? Like what if theyre playing at times when theyre sleepy??

thanks for the replays!!
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 15 2007 10:46 GMT
#65
Jetlag for both players? China and Korea have similiar time zones. It's either that Pj arrived early and rested well or Savior drunk himself silly before the match. Either way it's his fault.
Rillanon.au
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
October 15 2007 10:54 GMT
#66
On October 15 2007 19:46 haduken wrote:
Jetlag for both players? China and Korea have similiar time zones. It's either that Pj arrived early and rested well or Savior drunk himself silly before the match. Either way it's his fault.



im just saying he could have not felt well from traveling aside from the jet lag + that place looks noisy as hell.

Normally I wouldnt make excuses for the korean players, but if you watch the replays he doesnt look very crisp at all, his multitask and control seem off.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
October 15 2007 11:08 GMT
#67
woot pj owns, really nice games all 3.
imo savior played well, but pj was just on fire in these games, perfect pvz.
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
October 15 2007 11:10 GMT
#68
On October 15 2007 20:08 kroko wrote:
woot pj owns, really nice games all 3.
imo savior played well, but pj was just on fire in these games, perfect pvz.
PJ may have played well, but I don't see how you can possibly say Savior played well (compared to Savior when he was actually playing well a while ago). Obviously he was really good, but he looked extremely sloppy compared to the fearsome undefeatable ZvP of the savior days.
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 11:13:49
October 15 2007 11:11 GMT
#69
On October 15 2007 18:25 HiTexas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2007 18:06 BlueStar wrote:
Direct DL link from me ^^
http://impulsive.host-bg.info/index.php?site=demos&action=showdemo&demoID=21
gg no re


"To download this demo you have to be registered and logged in!"

and Pj is from China, not Canada : p

the reg is in this way:
reg from here: http://impulsive.host-bg.info/index.php?site=register
nick: ****
username: ****
pass: ****
repeat pass: ****
mail: ****
code: ****
u can use random mail as aspkljda@alksjd.tt
:D
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
October 15 2007 11:17 GMT
#70
On October 15 2007 20:10 HnR)Insane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2007 20:08 kroko wrote:
woot pj owns, really nice games all 3.
imo savior played well, but pj was just on fire in these games, perfect pvz.
PJ may have played well, but I don't see how you can possibly say Savior played well (compared to Savior when he was actually playing well a while ago). Obviously he was really good, but he looked extremely sloppy compared to the fearsome undefeatable ZvP of the savior days.

I didnt see anything that sloppy what costed these games for him, imho PJ just played better. + its hard to keep same level for big tournament what elapses days(u get tired) then for a TV game.
Thats skill too..
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 15 2007 12:36 GMT
#71
kroko, i think WCG would be considered more of a b reak compaired to there usual 14 hour/day practice hours, so i have to disagree wtih you on that. No clue why he played sloppy, but conrgats to PJ in any case.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7227 Posts
October 15 2007 12:54 GMT
#72
On October 15 2007 20:17 kroko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2007 20:10 HnR)Insane wrote:
On October 15 2007 20:08 kroko wrote:
woot pj owns, really nice games all 3.
imo savior played well, but pj was just on fire in these games, perfect pvz.
PJ may have played well, but I don't see how you can possibly say Savior played well (compared to Savior when he was actually playing well a while ago). Obviously he was really good, but he looked extremely sloppy compared to the fearsome undefeatable ZvP of the savior days.

I didnt see anything that sloppy what costed these games for him, imho PJ just played better. + its hard to keep same level for big tournament what elapses days(u get tired) then for a TV game.
Thats skill too..



imo his decision making wasnt as good as its usual self, but thats not what cost him the games (except maybe the paranoid game) he was put into really bad positions by his unit control and weak multitask, he reacted very slow to attacks and such, not his usual savior self.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 15 2007 13:02 GMT
#73
Thanks for the reps, really looking forward into watching them.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 15 2007 14:48 GMT
#74
pj played well, I thought savior threw those games but they were good
~Legit~
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States408 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 15:21:28
October 15 2007 15:18 GMT
#75
edit: whops sadist said the same thing already~~

bad multitasking and some bad decisions~~ paranoid android with the goons and the reaver etc~~
LegitMatthew
SeBASTa
Profile Joined September 2003
China1147 Posts
October 15 2007 15:35 GMT
#76
On October 15 2007 23:48 zulu_nation8 wrote:
pj played well, I thought savior threw those games but they were good

what do you mean by throw?
En Taro Terran
morfyy
Profile Joined May 2007
Romania593 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-15 16:19:42
October 15 2007 16:18 GMT
#77
Thnx for the replay . I can w8 to watch them
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
October 15 2007 16:22 GMT
#78
Players might not care enough to put in hard practice, but once anyone joins a game and I can speak for myself and any other competitive person on this planet, THEY FUCKING CARE. He might have been in bad shape, but once the game starts he will try to win 100%.

"didn't bother replacing his pool" what are you retarded?
Administrator
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
October 15 2007 16:54 GMT
#79
Do not forget the replay effect too, I think watching progamers on TV from obs view plus all the commentator and fan hypes make them look much godlier than when we see them with reps.
BoxerForever.com - the one and only international Boxer fansite since 2006 :)
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
October 15 2007 17:08 GMT
#80
the replays are up on gg.net if anyone prefers that media
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 240
ProTech58
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4148
Zeus 1244
Leta 456
zelot 121
Sacsri 55
Noble 24
HiyA 21
Bale 18
Icarus 10
NotJumperer 5
League of Legends
JimRising 1009
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K410
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox2465
Other Games
summit1g15065
Maynarde178
ROOTCatZ158
RuFF_SC2136
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1600
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta74
• practicex 62
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity5
• iopq 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift6041
• Rush1831
• Lourlo1040
Other Games
• Scarra2061
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
WardiTV European League
1d 11h
Online Event
1d 12h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.