EPTI would still encourage the Starcraft community to email wcg if they disagree with this decision. My own words have not been enough. Sorry again everyone.
No Tasteless casting at WCG USA FInals
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
I would still encourage the Starcraft community to email wcg if they disagree with this decision. My own words have not been enough. Sorry again everyone. | ||
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Superiorwolf
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Its a shame you cant cast, are they retarted? without you there wont be a "point" at all, besides the good games you were the soul of the party if you get my drift.. Now it will be just plain and boring  i seriously hope they change their mind or something. | ||
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NiceGuy(i2)
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oshibori_probe
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Kennigit
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CharlieMurphy
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Please provide me with WCG emails? | ||
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NeO)MasCoT
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NeO)MasCoT
United States212 Posts
wcgusa@icm2k.com Take from this page (http://ems.esportsea.com/portal/wcgusa/faq.php) Please keep in mind to NOT use profanity and be mannered in asking WCG to send Nick "Tasteless" to WCG USA 2007 Finals to shoutcast StarCraft USA. Thank you. | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
IF YOU ARE WRITING AN EMAIL - In short. Don't be a nub. You can suck Tasteless's epeen all you like on this one but if you are going to show these people why they should change their mind, try be respectful and not retarded. There is no way this is going unchecked. | ||
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houseurmusic
United States544 Posts
I'm guessing your still going to do the finals though right? If you are still doing the finals can you please shoutcast with someone who just semi knows what he is talking about, last year that other guy was pretty annoying and said some really stupid things. You made up for it ofcourse  | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Just a few hours ago I already wrote an angry email to WCG Netherlands because they dropped real competitive games like Starcraft and Counter Strike because of pressure from EA and Microsoft. On their site they admit that EA and Microsoft force WCG on national and international levels to include C&C3 and Gears of War. Also, they say on their site that S-Korea ruins competition because they win every time because of Starcraft, Warcraft and 'that crazy golf game'. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
On September 01 2007 08:19 houseurmusic wrote: That sux I'm guessing your still going to do the finals though right? If you are still doing the finals can you please shoutcast with someone who just semi knows what he is talking about, last year that other guy was pretty annoying and said some really stupid things. You made up for it ofcourse no, i couldn't compete this year. I had to attend blizzcon and goto korea during the times that the usa regionals were going on. So i wont be there unless i'm sent by wcg. thanks everyone for your support <3 | ||
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NeO)MasCoT
United States212 Posts
WCGUSA@ICM2K.COM Be mannered in your e-mail! | ||
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houseurmusic
United States544 Posts
Is this post reguarding the USA wcg finals or the world wcg finals? If it is just the USA finals that you won't be shoutcasting are you saying there is a chance they won't support you to shoutcast the world finals? THAT WOULD REALLY SUCK TT | ||
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NeO)MasCoT
United States212 Posts
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
On September 01 2007 08:36 NeO)MasCoT wrote: WCG USA Finals; not the Grand Finals. Where are the USA finals being held? Seattle also? Where is your current home Tasteless? Maybe we can send you over there and do some commentary exclusively for TL. Lets convince Mani to go instead  | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
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houseurmusic
United States544 Posts
On September 01 2007 09:05 oshibori_probe wrote: Yeah, I would gladly donate $$ to send tastless to cast wcg usa finals. sign me up | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Ok, update. So i just spoke with DjWheat @ GGL. You probably remember him from casting w/ Tasteless at WCG Monza last year and other places i cant remember right now. Anyways, i was asking him for an email address and he laid it all out to me. GGL and WCG kind of work in a partnership to send ITG casters to the events. Because of cut funding i assume on both sides Wheat had to make an executive decision as to whether a) Send Tasteless to WCG USA Finals b) Send Tasteless to WCG Grand Finals So obviously it was a pretty easy choice. What this means - There isn't a caster for WCG USA Finals that we know of unless as was the case with Tasteless years ago, a player says "hey give me a shot" (cough nony, cough inc). ----- Where we (the community) come in If you want to vent your frustrations on DjWheat, watch www.epilepticgaming.com every night @ 7pm EST 5pm PST. You can call in live and tell him. I completely support him in this decision. In a half hour or so i should have the email address for the/a WCG USA Rep who we can spam with emails. Now i'm not going to get my hopes up but if we can show them how imperative it is that Tasteless not be replaced with some nub in Florida then who knows. Email Address to come here: -> | ||
Manifesto7
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Do they realize that Starcraft is the most popular to be watched sport out of all those games? I mean, it is, right? | ||
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IntoTheWow
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On September 01 2007 09:20 Manifesto7 wrote: If we have to choose though, I would much rather have casting at the grand finals 100%. Of course. I can't wait for english commentary on korean games. | ||
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
<3 tasteless i'll email the new email as well :S | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
My fear is that there will be too many people that send this guy garbage so that he gets fed up and wont even release replays. By the way, for the WCG USA finals I would like to see 3 good commentators covering it in english, similar to the korean method. I think that Tasteless, Day, and Bunny (with some more experience) would be awesome. Too my knowledge (please correct if wrong) the korean commentators all have assigned rolls. 1 is the 'announcer', the other gives 'insight', and I dont know what the other one does. This is basically just what I have been able to glean from random posts from tl.net. When you watch the vods you always get the feeling that what they are doing is 'professional'. They seem to have set up when to look where, and basically how to make it as fun too watch as possible. If you want too see what I mean about the professional feel of casting, watch any recent vod from OGN/MBC then watch any Kespa Cup vod. There is a huge difference. | ||
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20143 Posts
On September 01 2007 10:27 MarklarMarklar wrote: screw wcg Screw you, faggot. and so tasteless will still be going to grand finals right? | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
On September 01 2007 10:27 MarklarMarklar wrote: screw wcg My thoughts after learning that Azalea, Gaia, and PA would be used for yet another year. However its basically all that we have, the only way to make it better is for fans to collaborate and put the pressure on the top dogs for a overall better experience. And this could be something like protests if they want to use GIGA tv, or something. | ||
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mnm
United States4493 Posts
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Jyvblamo
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
That would be a compromise. | ||
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mnm
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NonY
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
Maybe work together with Blizzard when SCII comes out. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
btw, thanks everyone for your support! <3 | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On September 01 2007 10:58 BlackStar wrote: TL.net and Kespa and some others should work together to get an alternative to WCG, then boycott them. Maybe work together with Blizzard when SCII comes out. Kespa already has OSL/MSL/Proleague. As far as they're concerned, South Korea is all that matters. TL.net has no money. | ||
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mnm
United States4493 Posts
pls do me a favor guys and dont act like immature complaining little kids when you're dealing with wcg officials. it doesn't help at all. it wont make them wanna help me either. | ||
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NeO)MasCoT
United States212 Posts
http://sc.gosugamers.net/thread/148343 GL with that MnM. <3 Nick :D | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 01 2007 08:24 BlackStar wrote: OMG, WCG failing again... Just a few hours ago I already wrote an angry email to WCG Netherlands because they dropped real competitive games like Starcraft and Counter Strike because of pressure from EA and Microsoft. On their site they admit that EA and Microsoft force WCG on national and international levels to include C&C3 and Gears of War. Also, they say on their site that S-Korea ruins competition because they win every time because of Starcraft, Warcraft and 'that crazy golf game'. What kind of biased shit is that? they make themselves out to be like the e sports gaming olympics. You don't see the real olympics cutting out basketball because Americans dominate them, etc. | ||
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philsa
United States196 Posts
On September 01 2007 08:24 BlackStar wrote: OMG, WCG failing again... Just a few hours ago I already wrote an angry email to WCG Netherlands because they dropped real competitive games like Starcraft and Counter Strike because of pressure from EA and Microsoft. On their site they admit that EA and Microsoft force WCG on national and international levels to include C&C3 and Gears of War. Also, they say on their site that S-Korea ruins competition because they win every time because of Starcraft, Warcraft and 'that crazy golf game'. Ruins competition? This maybe a stretch, but let me try: ex. Tracks: Blacks dominate the sprint events, thus, do they ruin the competition? ex. Tennis: Roger Federer dominates the men's tennis, does he ruin the competition? ex Historically, USA and Russia(USSR), dominated the olympics. Did these two countries' dominance ruined the competition? I don't think so, if anything, it enhanced it. Tell that Netherland site to shove it and reinstate Starcraft into their WCG competition. | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2934 Posts
On September 01 2007 12:09 NeO)MasCoT wrote: Nick, is it alright I posted this on GG.net ? The people there understand to e-mail WCG in a mannered fashion http://sc.gosugamers.net/thread/148343 GL with that MnM. <3 Nick :D GG.net ppl will just send flames, nothing constructive. | ||
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philsa
United States196 Posts
On September 01 2007 11:45 Jyvblamo wrote: Kespa already has OSL/MSL/Proleague. As far as they're concerned, South Korea is all that matters. TL.net has no money. Not entirely true, I think Kespa and other Korean starcraft community ultimately would like to expand into the golbal market. It might be possible to get some funding from Korean side if one can talk to the right channel/people. | ||
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sohee_pink
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Day[9]
United States7366 Posts
and i immediately thought "there NEEDS to be more tasteless..." gogo nicki, hope it all works out for you | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
On September 01 2007 12:19 philsa wrote: Tell that Netherland site to shove it and reinstate Starcraft into their WCG competition. Like I said, I already send them an 'angry' email. It's the official Dutch WCG site. | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On September 01 2007 10:24 oshibori_probe wrote: Should we base our point on how propper coverage is the only way to promote gaming into a mainstream spectator sport? Absolutely. Look at China and South Korea. Their games are cast the same as mainstream sporting events. Whether it's a caused of the popularity of e-sports in their countries or a result of it, the high quality commentary is there because e-sports is taken far more seriously in those countries than it is in the US, and realy the rest of the world. If WCG can't do it they can't do it, but I would hope they took the decision to only send Tasteless to one event seriously. Tasteless's commentary has been directly responsible for generating interest in the events he casts. You would hope WCG had a damned good reason for turning down the publicity and credibility he adds to their events. As for the general hate towards WCG, don't get too carried away. Even though they sometimes drop the ball they manage to host what right now is the de facto Olympics of video gaming. Plus the various local organizations seem to be dealing with budget cuts. What goes on behind the scenes of WCG seems to be almost completely unknown, which doesn't help when trying to make judgment calls on how they run their events. Not to say WCG hasn't completely dropped the ball in the past. I have nothing against Whacksteven but he simply wasn't qualified to cast StarCraft games. A few years ago they decided that local WCG's couldn't send unsponsored players. All this managed to do was allow less people to go and thus dull the excitement. The players who could pay their own way were no longer able to attend. WCG gained no legitimacy or increased ability to do business. At best it was an ill-conceived attempt to help its players, at worst it was WCG trying to act bigger than it was, with negative results. Plus, this is really disappointing: On September 01 2007 08:24 BlackStar wrote: OMG, WCG failing again... Just a few hours ago I already wrote an angry email to WCG Netherlands because they dropped real competitive games like Starcraft and Counter Strike because of pressure from EA and Microsoft. On their site they admit that EA and Microsoft force WCG on national and international levels to include C&C3 and Gears of War. Also, they say on their site that S-Korea ruins competition because they win every time because of Starcraft, Warcraft and 'that crazy golf game'. I'll admit straight up that following professional StarCraft for like four years has made me biased. But WCG can't forget the fact that without StarCraft, no one gives a shit about them. They could try to establish a business model that doesn't rely on StarCraft, but then they would be betting their chips on games that either don't have a strong player base, or games that are better handled by other competitive gaming organizations. It doesn't matter that it's mostly contained to South Korea, StarCraft is the biggest competitive video game in the world; so much so that it's legitimately become a part of the country's pop culture. StarCraft's relatively lesser popularity in America and Europe does not change this. WCG could be short sighted and allow EA and Microsoft to influence their game selection. Or, they could make the correct decision; use their monopoly on international competition for the biggest competitive game in the world to build a true Olmypics for competitive gaming. Just because I'm sure this will come up, or at very least it's relevant: using the coming of StarCraft 2 to justify lesser attention to Brood War is a mistake. StarCraft 2 will be popular because Brood War is popular. The less popular WCG allows Brood War to be, the less they will stand to gain when SC2 comes out. Unless of course, they want to make building a brand for that game's competition unnecessarily resource consuming. I like how I went to "don't get too carried away" to writing three paragraphs on things WCG isn't good at. I guess I felt like venting. On the other hand I didn't talk about how we should "boycott" their "shitty" events. Because we all know that's the best way to make companies care about what you have to say. | ||
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oshibori_probe
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EGMachine
United States1643 Posts
WCG wont be the same w/o tasteless TT | ||
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mnm
United States4493 Posts
seriously though they have been helpful whenever ive asked nicely.. and you guys can do the same thing i can.. just.. seriously.. be more mature in handling things.. | ||
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Trev
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On September 01 2007 14:38 [X]Ken~D wrote: .. or people can each donate 5$ to send him to the event especially with the amount of traffic that this site gets. I'm not sure why this isn't being more actively considered. The only thing I can think of is that right now people getting the WCG to make things right and take action is the primary concern. Which isn't a bad thing but at some point, getting Tasteless to WCG USA is most important. | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 01 2007 08:30 NeO)MasCoT wrote: I posted on GG.net Nick. WCGUSA@ICM2K.COM Be mannered in your e-mail! That email is basically a dead one, nobody answers it. The one that is being used is <b>wcgplayers@icm2k.com</b>, but that's still not going to help Nicks situation, since the people who are answering WCG emails aren't the ones who pay for his trip, it's GGL Wire, formerly iTG (new name same people). | ||
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Seku
United States313 Posts
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rushz0rz
Canada5300 Posts
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DeadVessel
United States6269 Posts
On September 01 2007 10:57 NonY[rC] wrote: If Tasteless can't show, I'm sure some BW player at hand would be willing to cast a match if WCG would let them... but still I hope we can get Tasteless there one way or another :o hopefully mnm is on to something. Nick you can sleep in my room as long as you don't wear anything more than some boxers as we share a bed. So kinky. | ||
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Schiller
Germany308 Posts
I hope it will help gl tasteless | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11591 Posts
On September 01 2007 14:54 rushz0rz wrote: you will be casting at grand finals right? | ||
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DTDominion
United States2148 Posts
On September 01 2007 11:29 MyLostTemple wrote: for clarification i WILL be casting at the world finals in Seattle. btw, thanks everyone for your support! <3 Come on guys. | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
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houseurmusic
United States544 Posts
On September 01 2007 11:29 MyLostTemple wrote: for clarification i WILL be casting at the world finals in Seattle. btw, thanks everyone for your support! <3 Thank god | ||
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Musli
Poland5130 Posts
2nd that ! GOGO Nick ! Make it an unforgetable event ! :> | ||
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CharlieMurphy
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KH1031
United States862 Posts
My spirit is with you. | ||
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LordofAscension
United States589 Posts
On September 02 2007 08:06 CharlieMurphy wrote: Hes trying to figure out the USA Finals, but he IS casting for the Grand Finals. Don't get confused. I was confused. I <3 you Tasteless. Make us proud as always. ~LoA | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
NO! This is ife scarring. I suddenly don't really care about wcg. | ||
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BrutalMenace
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pop.helo
United States5 Posts
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United States2 Posts
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thoraxe
United States1449 Posts
out of topic: Does Klazart have an account here on TL? | ||
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nofAcedAgent
United States952 Posts
On September 10 2007 13:54 thoraxe wrote: So this means that he IS going after all? out of topic: Does Klazart have an account here on TL? http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=7&topic_id=54316 Yes sir, "Klaz" Cheers - | ||
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MyLostTemple
United States2921 Posts
I'm sorry everyone, i was unable to find a sponsor so i can't get sent. Thanks everyone who's supported me | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
. Oh well we'll just have to wait till Grand Finals.... unless a certain someone decides to replace you.+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/4429/vlcsnap243105zj9.png) | ||
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NonY
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
On September 11 2007 04:53 Kennigit wrote: Thats too bad . Oh well we'll just have to wait till Grand Finals.... unless a certain someone decides to replace you.+ Show Spoiler + Nooooooooooooooooooo On September 11 2007 04:55 NonY[rC] wrote: im gonna jump up on stage whether they let me or not !! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaay | ||
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Famehunter
Canada586 Posts
On September 11 2007 04:46 MyLostTemple wrote: I am officially not going to blizzcon. I'm sorry everyone, i was unable to find a sponsor so i can't get sent. Thanks everyone who's supported me Blizzcon? | ||
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NerO
United States2071 Posts
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NerO
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Xeofreestyler
Belgium6774 Posts
On September 11 2007 04:53 Kennigit wrote: Thats too bad . Oh well we'll just have to wait till Grand Finals.... unless a certain someone decides to replace you.+ Show Spoiler + Who is that? | ||
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Aux1
United States780 Posts
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OrderlyChaos
United States1115 Posts
That looks like Mahk! And sad news =/ Oh well, at least we get to see Tasteless at the Grand Finals! | ||
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feijls1
United States118 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Then Tasteless at grand final | ||
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