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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
Watching "ASL English" afreeca stream / vod exclusively since they started as it currently fits my preferences best, but I can see myself bouncing back and forth, or even watching the same games multiple times on each option. In fact I recall watching both the Korean stream and the Tastosis stream during a previous ASL. | ||
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Just_a_Moth
Canada1947 Posts
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End1esss
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outscar
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HOLYBATS
Turkey705 Posts
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1391 Posts
Skyoken cuz I need the live. ^_._^ | ||
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JoinTheRain
Bulgaria408 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway643 Posts
Not because I find it much better, it's just out much faster and since I don't have an opinion on who's "best" I just whatever comes first. | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1162 Posts
Too much fine starcraft knowledge to pass on this one. | ||
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prosatan
Romania7724 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3090 Posts
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prosatan
Romania7724 Posts
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earob84
Germany175 Posts
Sometimes Youtube VOD wirh artosis and tasteless but not really because i know alrdy the results then. | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4804 Posts
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KwarK
United States42223 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands4804 Posts
On October 26 2021 19:10 KwarK wrote: Youtube Scan Nyoken. Why not watch live now if you're up anyway? ^^ https://tl.net/video/streams/StarCastTV_EN | ||
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ajmbek
Italy460 Posts
On October 26 2021 17:51 JoinTheRain wrote: I tend to watch on youtube's starcast channel, usually a few days after the event, depending on when my schedule allows for it. i do the same | ||
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oxKnu
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Return
Ivory Coast856 Posts
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oxKnu
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Abjurer
Sweden207 Posts
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quaristice
112 Posts
when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar. but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand. | ||
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SpaNiarD
Spain343 Posts
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krooked
376 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Jubinell
333 Posts
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCosTSEA-WW78UjktiJttX_g I hope sharing his profile here doesn't get his channel banned. | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
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psyCrowe
Scotland195 Posts
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tankgirl
352 Posts
On October 26 2021 21:46 Abjurer wrote: Afreeca Scan & Nyoken. Best commentators we have had in a long time i think. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4164 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On October 26 2021 23:24 Jubinell wrote: Uh this guy??? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCosTSEA-WW78UjktiJttX_g I hope sharing his profile here doesn't get his channel banned. That guy who uploads matches so fast is MVP, I hate looking for VODs on Afreeca, its often so laggy. | ||
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Szinkler
Hungary394 Posts
edit: oh and I definitely watch all the subbed interviews in the Tastosis VOD, it's great! | ||
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hALLE
Sweden19 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
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Lorch
Germany3671 Posts
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zelevin
United States247 Posts
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SirGlinG
Sweden933 Posts
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Levque
88 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3341 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3454 Posts
I watch some scan/nyoken too. All four are awesome. | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
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MineraIs
United States845 Posts
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
United States642 Posts
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darktreb
United States3016 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1397 Posts
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purepat
Malta17 Posts
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moktira
Ireland1542 Posts
On October 26 2021 21:46 Abjurer wrote: Youtube Scan & Nyoken. Best commentators we have had in a long time i think. I usually watch it a couple of days afterwards and like to read the last pages of the live thread afterwards. Pretty much the same, if I get to them before they're on StarCastTV's YouTube channel, then I'll watch in on afreecaTV but that doesn't happen too often. Also like to read the end of the LR thread after. On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote: scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though. when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar. Interesting, I never thought about it, but for people with no knowledge of BW, Scan and Nyoken could be hard to follow immediately alright. I agree Tastosis are probably better at that aspect, though they reference SC2 a bit which I know almost nothing about! I think it's fantastic we have the options of both and I'm glad people enjoy both so we keep both. | ||
HaN-
France1919 Posts
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CadenZie
Korea (South)545 Posts
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Puosu
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Ikirouta
Finland727 Posts
Easy choice. | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1073 Posts
In terms of game knowledge they are definitely the best English commentators that we've ever had. They have also getting better and better. Mainly improving the entertainment side of things... | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2576 Posts
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Jealous
10107 Posts
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote: scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though. when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar. but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand. Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please? | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
Broodwar isn't as important a part of my life as it was 8-10 years ago so watching live is rarely an option, but it's still great to be able to catch up with all the vods at a time convenient for me. | ||
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Piste
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ox.tQ
794 Posts
On October 28 2021 01:34 CadenZie wrote: I watch faust cast it on discord lol i'm sure ASL staff, who may be checking out this thread, will be curious about that one my vote goes to nyoken and scan who are knowledge casting for free and doing a community service out of love for the game and scene | ||
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quaristice
112 Posts
On October 28 2021 21:51 Jealous wrote: Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please? for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go beyond merely using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention. not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear. i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit | ||
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Jealous
10107 Posts
On October 29 2021 03:17 quaristice wrote: for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go merely beyond using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention. not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear. i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit Thanks. I wasn't looking to start an argument either, I was just curious as to what they were saying. My gut instinct when hearing about ableist language is that Tastosis may be saying "retarded" or "autistic" which I would have found very surprising, but hearing the terms "crazy" etc. certainly makes sense. | ||
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quaristice
112 Posts
On October 29 2021 05:35 Jealous wrote: Thanks. I wasn't looking to start an argument either, I was just curious as to what they were saying. My gut instinct when hearing about ableist language is that Tastosis may be saying "retarded" or "autistic" which I would have found very surprising, but hearing the terms "crazy" etc. certainly makes sense. i know theres quite a few people in the community that do say that stuff, but as far as i know tasteless and artosis don't say that in their commentary. at least not these days. i dont remember that well back to when tasteless was doing GOMTV or whatever, he might've back then. but i also would like to think we've all grown a lot since that era, i know i have. i wouldn't hold things he said in that time against him. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32269 Posts
On October 26 2021 19:10 KwarK wrote: Youtube Scan Nyoken. | ||
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superovermind
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
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ThunderJunk
United States669 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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NotoriousSCV
27 Posts
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ZakRoM
Costa Rica54 Posts
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angry_maia
301 Posts
On October 30 2021 01:51 superovermind wrote: All artosis does is complain about protoss, scan/nyoken aren't good at casting. I just started watching the korean casters instead. No clue what they're saying yet but it's much nicer i mean while he streams sure. But i've almost NEVER found him to complain much during casts. Even for Mini vs Rush which involved multiple cross spawn nexus first he didn't try to detract from minis victories. | ||
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Patasti
Romania15 Posts
On the other hand, Tasteless and Artosis are more fun sometimes. All four of them could do a joint collab and do live comment, like the guys from back2warcraft do (e.g. 2 or 3 of them could comment live, even up to 4 people). Anyway, it's very good we have live EN option as well. I would like to see this for KCM Race, Showmatches(Ultimate Battle) and ASTL. There is a solid non-korean watchers base that would love this. Again, back2warcraft is a good example on how coverage is done, they try to cover most important wc3 competitions, and they have more members and collaborators, relying a lot on donations. | ||
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JAG.war
United States76 Posts
I’m also happy to support their Patreon because of all the free entertainment I’ve enjoyed over the years. | ||
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jorumba
Germany7 Posts
Whenever I've time I like to watch vod of Tastosis. | ||
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bracala
95 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11042 Posts
Tastosis have presentation value. They’re still the gold standard to just have on and I lean to them for finals. They’re great if I’m working and want something there while I work. Either way I enjoy both and it feels like a golden age for content. People should check out he staarcast grudge matches. Great players. | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
Then I will watch either. | ||
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