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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
October 27 2021 01:29 GMT
#41
Mostly Tastosis.
I watch some scan/nyoken too.
All four are awesome.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
October 27 2021 05:32 GMT
#42
I watch tastosis. Come for the Starcraft stay for the dad jokes.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
October 27 2021 05:57 GMT
#43
I watch Nyocan live, their casting is much more technical when talking about the builds and meta.
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PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States680 Posts
October 27 2021 07:55 GMT
#44
I kind of just stopped, no excitement of live result anymore. staying up to watch the game was something fun to do. Now I occasionally check liquipedia for results.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
October 27 2021 08:49 GMT
#45
Nyoken + Scan are phenomenal. It's incredible to have such high level players commentating.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1469 Posts
October 27 2021 09:59 GMT
#46
sea cast
purepat
Profile Joined May 2021
Malta17 Posts
October 27 2021 10:51 GMT
#47
Scan and Nyoken all the way. They are casting usually 12 to 24 hours after ASL - this is acceptable time. Unfortunately Tastosis are way to slow. I understand that production value maybe is better. But from SCBW i only demand Game itself, and insightful commentary - which StarCast TV always delivers. <3
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
October 27 2021 15:30 GMT
#48
On October 26 2021 21:46 Abjurer wrote:
Youtube Scan & Nyoken. Best commentators we have had in a long time i think. I usually watch it a couple of days afterwards and like to read the last pages of the live thread afterwards.

Pretty much the same, if I get to them before they're on StarCastTV's YouTube channel, then I'll watch in on afreecaTV but that doesn't happen too often. Also like to read the end of the LR thread after.

On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

Interesting, I never thought about it, but for people with no knowledge of BW, Scan and Nyoken could be hard to follow immediately alright. I agree Tastosis are probably better at that aspect, though they reference SC2 a bit which I know almost nothing about!

I think it's fantastic we have the options of both and I'm glad people enjoy both so we keep both.
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
October 27 2021 16:02 GMT
#49
YouTube Nyocan.
Calendaraka Foxhan
CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
October 27 2021 16:34 GMT
#50
I watch faust cast it on discord
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6994 Posts
October 27 2021 18:32 GMT
#51
Artosis and Tasteless for the entertainment. Though I'd consider Scan and Nyoken if I was primarily watching to get better, to understand the game at depth, or something like that.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland738 Posts
October 27 2021 18:50 GMT
#52
Scan + Nyoken.
Easy choice.
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HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1075 Posts
October 28 2021 11:10 GMT
#53
Scan and Nyoken for sure.
In terms of game knowledge they are definitely the best English commentators that we've ever had. They have also getting better and better. Mainly improving the entertainment side of things...
BW forever!
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2588 Posts
October 28 2021 12:11 GMT
#54
I was watching Tastosis, and was a Patreon supporter, but it kept irking me when I saw the language on their Patreon page saying that basically there would be no English casting of the ASL without them, when in fact there's a pretty excellent team also providing English-language casting with Afreeca's blessing. I gave Scan and Nyoken a shot to see how their quality was, and honestly they're also just more to my liking. I prefer analytical casting, and after all these years I'm feeling a bit tired of hearing Tastosis make the same points over and over again.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10256 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 12:55:00
October 28 2021 12:51 GMT
#55
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
October 28 2021 15:31 GMT
#56
Scan and Nyoken on Youtube.

Broodwar isn't as important a part of my life as it was 8-10 years ago so watching live is rarely an option, but it's still great to be able to catch up with all the vods at a time convenient for me.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6181 Posts
October 28 2021 16:47 GMT
#57
Scan and Nyoken, their VODs are always up when I check.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 17:15:08
October 28 2021 17:11 GMT
#58
On October 28 2021 01:34 CadenZie wrote:
I watch faust cast it on discord


lol i'm sure ASL staff, who may be checking out this thread, will be curious about that one

my vote goes to nyoken and scan who are knowledge casting for free and doing a community service out of love for the game and scene
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quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
114 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 23:56:44
October 28 2021 18:17 GMT
#59
On October 28 2021 21:51 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?


for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go beyond merely using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention.

not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear.

i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10256 Posts
October 28 2021 20:35 GMT
#60
On October 29 2021 03:17 quaristice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2021 21:51 Jealous wrote:
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?


for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go merely beyond using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention.

not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear.

i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit

Thanks. I wasn't looking to start an argument either, I was just curious as to what they were saying. My gut instinct when hearing about ableist language is that Tastosis may be saying "retarded" or "autistic" which I would have found very surprising, but hearing the terms "crazy" etc. certainly makes sense.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
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