• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:22
CEST 05:22
KST 12:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 1 - Final Week6[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall10HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0
Community News
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation17$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced7Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles7[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China10Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL76
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (June 30 - July 6): Classic Doubles Server Blocker RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Script to open stream directly using middle click
Tourneys
2025 ACS Season 2 Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Last Minute Live-Report Thread Resource!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project The PlayStation 5 Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Accidental Video Game Porn Archive Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Men Take Risks, Women Win Ga…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 628 users

How are you watching ASL since the EN streaming changes? -…

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3454 Posts
October 27 2021 01:29 GMT
#41
Mostly Tastosis.
I watch some scan/nyoken too.
All four are awesome.
A build is not a guess, an estimation or a hunch, a feeling, or a foolish intuition. A build is a dependable, unwavering, unarguably accurate, portrayer of your ambition.
washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
October 27 2021 05:32 GMT
#42
I watch tastosis. Come for the Starcraft stay for the dad jokes.
"when life gives Hero lemons he makes carriers" -Artosis
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
October 27 2021 05:57 GMT
#43
I watch Nyocan live, their casting is much more technical when talking about the builds and meta.
✯ [ twitch.tv/MrMineraIs ] ✯ [ Check out my Maps: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/612442-official-maps-by-minerals ] ✯
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States654 Posts
October 27 2021 07:55 GMT
#44
I kind of just stopped, no excitement of live result anymore. staying up to watch the game was something fun to do. Now I occasionally check liquipedia for results.
Mostly a troll, bi-polar by design, occasionally brain malfunction. Please forgive me. xD
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
October 27 2021 08:49 GMT
#45
Nyoken + Scan are phenomenal. It's incredible to have such high level players commentating.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1422 Posts
October 27 2021 09:59 GMT
#46
sea cast
purepat
Profile Joined May 2021
Malta17 Posts
October 27 2021 10:51 GMT
#47
Scan and Nyoken all the way. They are casting usually 12 to 24 hours after ASL - this is acceptable time. Unfortunately Tastosis are way to slow. I understand that production value maybe is better. But from SCBW i only demand Game itself, and insightful commentary - which StarCast TV always delivers. <3
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
October 27 2021 15:30 GMT
#48
On October 26 2021 21:46 Abjurer wrote:
Youtube Scan & Nyoken. Best commentators we have had in a long time i think. I usually watch it a couple of days afterwards and like to read the last pages of the live thread afterwards.

Pretty much the same, if I get to them before they're on StarCastTV's YouTube channel, then I'll watch in on afreecaTV but that doesn't happen too often. Also like to read the end of the LR thread after.

On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

Interesting, I never thought about it, but for people with no knowledge of BW, Scan and Nyoken could be hard to follow immediately alright. I agree Tastosis are probably better at that aspect, though they reference SC2 a bit which I know almost nothing about!

I think it's fantastic we have the options of both and I'm glad people enjoy both so we keep both.
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
October 27 2021 16:02 GMT
#49
YouTube Nyocan.
Calendaraka Foxhan
CadenZie
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)545 Posts
October 27 2021 16:34 GMT
#50
I watch faust cast it on discord
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
October 27 2021 18:32 GMT
#51
Artosis and Tasteless for the entertainment. Though I'd consider Scan and Nyoken if I was primarily watching to get better, to understand the game at depth, or something like that.
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
October 27 2021 18:50 GMT
#52
Scan + Nyoken.
Easy choice.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
October 28 2021 11:10 GMT
#53
Scan and Nyoken for sure.
In terms of game knowledge they are definitely the best English commentators that we've ever had. They have also getting better and better. Mainly improving the entertainment side of things...
BW forever!
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2577 Posts
October 28 2021 12:11 GMT
#54
I was watching Tastosis, and was a Patreon supporter, but it kept irking me when I saw the language on their Patreon page saying that basically there would be no English casting of the ASL without them, when in fact there's a pretty excellent team also providing English-language casting with Afreeca's blessing. I gave Scan and Nyoken a shot to see how their quality was, and honestly they're also just more to my liking. I prefer analytical casting, and after all these years I'm feeling a bit tired of hearing Tastosis make the same points over and over again.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10137 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 12:55:00
October 28 2021 12:51 GMT
#55
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
October 28 2021 15:31 GMT
#56
Scan and Nyoken on Youtube.

Broodwar isn't as important a part of my life as it was 8-10 years ago so watching live is rarely an option, but it's still great to be able to catch up with all the vods at a time convenient for me.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
October 28 2021 16:47 GMT
#57
Scan and Nyoken, their VODs are always up when I check.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 17:15:08
October 28 2021 17:11 GMT
#58
On October 28 2021 01:34 CadenZie wrote:
I watch faust cast it on discord


lol i'm sure ASL staff, who may be checking out this thread, will be curious about that one

my vote goes to nyoken and scan who are knowledge casting for free and doing a community service out of love for the game and scene
https://www.twitch.tv/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://trovo.live/TeamThinkQuickTTV *** https://play.afreecatv.com/axtqttv
quaristice
Profile Joined February 2021
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-28 23:56:44
October 28 2021 18:17 GMT
#59
On October 28 2021 21:51 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?


for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go beyond merely using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention.

not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear.

i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10137 Posts
October 28 2021 20:35 GMT
#60
On October 29 2021 03:17 quaristice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2021 21:51 Jealous wrote:
On October 26 2021 21:58 quaristice wrote:
scan and nyoken are very good. i wish they could have a non-terran perspective sometimes though.

when i watch with my friends who know less about broodwar, i have to explain a lot more to them when we watch scan and nyoken. tastosis are better at explaining stuff to people who are unfamiliar.

but we still choose to groupwatch nyoken and scan over tastosis. me and my friends don't really like how artosis and tasteless talk about so much negative shit about people or the game, or the ableist language. i dunno if they realize how that stuff impacts people but i also dont really care about explaining to folks that dont understand.

Can you give me some examples of their ableist language, please?


for example, they spend a lot of time talking about extended metaphors/jokes about stuff being "insane" / "crazy" / "stupid". like beyond just the casual meaning of "bad". i know those words is just of how everyone talks, but on a several occasions they go merely beyond using the words. i don't feel like digging through their videos for examples but it's there if you pay attention.

not trying to start an argument about it because i know that me saying that much is probably a controversial take, it's just me and my friends' preference. i know a lot of viewers don't notice because it's something they think doesn't affect them. i also know that tastosis are probably not intending any harm by it, but it still sucks for me and my friends to hear.

i also know that scan and nyoken definitely use those words but they are just using it in the casual sense of "bad", which i still dislike, but it's easier to ignore. and they don't linger on it as part of a longer bit

Thanks. I wasn't looking to start an argument either, I was just curious as to what they were saying. My gut instinct when hearing about ableist language is that Tastosis may be saying "retarded" or "autistic" which I would have found very surprising, but hearing the terms "crazy" etc. certainly makes sense.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 216
RuFF_SC2 192
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 117
Noble 24
Icarus 5
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm134
League of Legends
JimRising 1074
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K366
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor190
Other Games
summit1g12706
WinterStarcraft340
ViBE204
Livibee60
Trikslyr57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick48049
BasetradeTV29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH199
• Adnapsc2 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• OhrlRock 0
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki21
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4324
• Jankos2111
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 38m
RSL Revival
6h 38m
Classic vs Clem
FEL
11h 38m
Elazer vs Spirit
Gerald vs MaNa
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14h 38m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
QiaoGege vs Dewalt
Hawk vs Bonyth
Sziky vs Fengzi
Mihu vs Zhanhun
QiaoGege vs Zhanhun
Fengzi vs Mihu
Wardi Open
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
6 days
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
HSC XXVII
NC Random Cup

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
Acropolis #3
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters

Upcoming

CSL Xiamen Invitational
CSL Xiamen Invitational: ShowMatche
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Underdog Cup #2
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.