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ASL11 Playoffs Bracket Set

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
May 04 2021 13:40 GMT
#1
AfreecaTV StarLeague Season 11 headed into playoffs


Post KeSPA's wonderkid and last season's runner-up Soma is out of action as the Ro16 of AfreecaTV StarLeague Season 11 concludes. With fan-favourite Bisu likewise put out of the running and a close shave for reigning champion ZerO, a shake-up in Korean Brood War's pecking order is likely on the cards. ASL11 is the second out of four premier StarCraft events planned by AfreecaTV for 2021.


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Tournament play resumes this Sunday at 1900KST with the first quarterfinal best-of-5 between Mini and Best. With Flash departing for his mandatory military service sometime this month and JaeDong only being released towards the end of 2021, this is the second time in ASL's history not one member of TBLS made it to the round-of-8



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mSj[uRound]
Profile Joined May 2010
Latvia75 Posts
May 04 2021 13:50 GMT
#2
WOW! Spoilers in the title! Seriously?
TehRei
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden261 Posts
May 04 2021 14:24 GMT
#3
While spoilers don't ruin the entire experience for me, I do think keeping them out of titles is a good idea. Remember that lots of people are following the Tastosis casts (roughly 50k viewers per video), which obviously lag behind the live broadcasts.
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
May 04 2021 14:44 GMT
#4
Why would you do that ??
Please remove it before spoiling more people..
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 04 2021 14:49 GMT
#5
Yep, we shouldn't talk about any ASL results before Christmas when all of the Tastosis VODs will be out.
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
May 04 2021 14:52 GMT
#6
On May 04 2021 23:49 oxKnu wrote:
Yep, we shouldn't talk about any ASL results before Christmas when all of the Tastosis VODs will be out.

Don't you think there is difference between talking about it and putting a giant spoiler in the title of a post ?
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-04 15:12:16
May 04 2021 15:11 GMT
#7
If you don't want to get spoiled, don't browse the place that is incredibly likely to be talking about it right after the event.
mSj[uRound]
Profile Joined May 2010
Latvia75 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-04 15:37:31
May 04 2021 15:36 GMT
#8
On May 05 2021 00:11 oxKnu wrote:
If you don't want to get spoiled, don't browse the place that is incredibly likely to be talking about it right after the event.

You can talk about it wherever you want, but I don't think it is acceptable to put any results in the TITLE of the news ''article'' which is in the main page. It isn't necessary and only frustrates people. Not like it is some major spoiler, but it just removes some flavor from watching the games, when you wanted to do that at weekend, but already know the results at wednesday.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 04 2021 15:59 GMT
#9
On May 05 2021 00:36 mSj[uRound] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2021 00:11 oxKnu wrote:
If you don't want to get spoiled, don't browse the place that is incredibly likely to be talking about it right after the event.

You can talk about it wherever you want, but I don't think it is acceptable to put any results in the TITLE of the news ''article'' which is in the main page. It isn't necessary and only frustrates people. Not like it is some major spoiler, but it just removes some flavor from watching the games, when you wanted to do that at weekend, but already know the results at wednesday.


Didn't know it was featured on the main page. Yes, that is done in poor taste I agree.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50747 Posts
May 04 2021 16:24 GMT
#10
It was not when it was posted.

Spoilers were removed from the title when it got news'd.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 04 2021 16:53 GMT
#11
On May 05 2021 01:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
It was not when it was posted.

Spoilers were removed from the title when it got news'd.




Totally fine then.
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
May 04 2021 17:19 GMT
#12
While I don't follow Brood War nearly as much as I follow SC2, what was the original title that included the spoiler(s)? Feel free to bracket spoiler my reply. Thanks.

Looks to be an interesting set of Elite Eight matchups.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 04 2021 17:45 GMT
#13
On May 05 2021 02:19 tommey.liang wrote:
While I don't follow Brood War nearly as much as I follow SC2, what was the original title that included the spoiler(s)? Feel free to bracket spoiler my reply. Thanks.

Looks to be an interesting set of Elite Eight matchups.


It mentioned some of the tournament favorites being taken out already.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 04 2021 20:42 GMT
#14
Wow Mini has a 14-3 record vs. best over the last 5 months on Sponbbang. I don't think this was the bracket Best was hoping for.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 04 2021 21:36 GMT
#15
On May 05 2021 05:42 Alur wrote:
Wow Mini has a 14-3 record vs. best over the last 5 months on Sponbbang. I don't think this was the bracket Best was hoping for.


Not surprising, Best is a tier below in PvP compared to Bisu, Mini and Snow.

Definitely an underdog in this series.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
May 04 2021 23:53 GMT
#16
With Bisu out I think Larva is my favorite out of the remaining players

After watching the last Ro16 group what I really want out of the rest of the tournament is more cheese
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StaticNine
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
31 Posts
May 05 2021 00:27 GMT
#17
zero has a great chance of taking it all
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-05 01:06:05
May 05 2021 00:35 GMT
#18
Mini should wreck Best.
JyJ has been super impressive so far; Queen hasn't. While I'd still say Queen is favored, it should be an interesting series.
Not a great draw for Snow, but he does have a decent record against hero of late. Probably going to come down to his ability to block early aggression.
Rush should be able to take down Larva, though they play together a fair amount so there might be some weird mindgames.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4144 Posts
May 05 2021 06:58 GMT
#19
Mini, JyJ, Hero and Rush imo
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Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
May 05 2021 07:38 GMT
#20
This has to be the best bracket possible for Zero, he basically just won another ASL. The people that could challenge him are likely to not even make it far enough to face him -- Larva is going to lose to Rush, Rush is going to lose to Snow, Best probably loses to Mini. Seems super likely Zero is just going to stomp Snow in a 45 min final.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4244 Posts
May 05 2021 07:54 GMT
#21
Pretty interesting brackets. Hope for some awesome games and for protoss to reach the final.

BW forever!
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 05 2021 08:44 GMT
#22
Must be nice being Zero. Having 25K guaranteed every 4 months.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1246 Posts
May 06 2021 09:38 GMT
#23
Huge test for Snow here.

Hero, although obviously a competent ZvP-er is nowhere near the level of Soma and Zero in this matchup. If he can get past this hurdle and somehow Zero stumbles in his bracket he has a real chance to take it all.

His PvP is probably the best right now, PvT has always been great and on these maps where the early game is pretty much unexplored he has all the tools to frustrate an inexperienced Terran (relatively speaking ofc) like JyJ or Rush.

My wishlist Ro4:

Mini - Zero
Snow - Rush
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China191 Posts
May 06 2021 10:05 GMT
#24
RO4:Mini,Zero,Hero,Larva
Final:Larva vs Zero
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1110 Posts
May 06 2021 11:18 GMT
#25
On May 05 2021 09:35 QOGQOG wrote:
Mini should wreck Best.
JyJ has been super impressive so far; Queen hasn't. While I'd still say Queen is favored, it should be an interesting series.
Not a great draw for Snow, but he does have a decent record against hero of late. Probably going to come down to his ability to block early aggression.
Rush should be able to take down Larva, though they play together a fair amount so there might be some weird mindgames.


great post
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 06 2021 12:37 GMT
#26
Hero will win
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8584 Posts
May 06 2021 12:43 GMT
#27
On May 06 2021 19:05 Zergxhx wrote:
RO4:Mini,Zero,Hero,Larva
Final:Larva vs Zero

This is my LB too! But it is too early for me to think about the finals
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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
May 07 2021 01:48 GMT
#28
Mini > Best, Queen > Jyj, Snow > Hero, Rush > Larva,
Mini < Queen, Snow > Rush
Queen > Snow

3 times champ.
vespene_geyser
Profile Joined February 2021
4 Posts
May 07 2021 02:01 GMT
#29
Hoping to see another Mini's victory over Queen
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
May 07 2021 02:11 GMT
#30
I want to see Mini and Queen play a best of 5
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1110 Posts
May 07 2021 02:33 GMT
#31
Unfortunately JyJ isnt a walk in the park no more
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
May 07 2021 03:20 GMT
#32
I still think Queen will win. Won't be easy, but after a relatively weak performance in ro16 he will be fired up.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-05-07 05:37:32
May 07 2021 05:30 GMT
#33
herO: His match against Snow is pretty much a coin toss. Aggressive herO can definitely take the win. After that though I see no way forward. He'll almost certainly lose against either Rush or Larva. I wish I could give his fans more hope, but I don't think he can reach the finals.

Snow: If he beats herO, he can also very realistically take down Rush in what would likely be a very tough match for both. But against Larva I consider Snow to be the clear underdog because PvZ is his weakest matchup afaik. I'm giving him a small but decent chance at reaching the finals, but - due to the chance of facing either Larva or Queen - virtually no chance at getting 1st. He's up against at least one zerg, possibly three. The odds are heavily stacked against him.

Larva: I'd consider him to be the wild card. Since his skill in every matchup is fairly even and he's had the occasional winning streak against some of the best players, he's always a contender for 1st place. Despite being the obvious underdog, he has a chance at beating Rush. From that point onward anything could happen. He'd almost certainly beat either herO or Snow and then it'd be pretty much a matter of luck in the finals, almost regardless of who he faces.

Rush: Not much to say about him except he's one of the top two favorites to get into the finals. He has a good shot at getting 1st, but if he faces Snow and then either Queen or Best, he'll be in for a hell of a fight. That particular draw would be the worst for him. Anyone can beat him, but he'd be an underdog to no one.

Mini: tbh I haven't seen much of him lately. To me he seems strong at times and shaky at other times. I think against Best it's pretty much a coin toss, and then he'll have to hope JyJ beats Queen or he's pretty much out of the tournament. If he somehow makes it into the finals against all odds, he'll likely have to defeat Rush, which isn't likely but could happen. Against Larva he'd be in for a painful beating, too. Only against herO or Snow do I see him having a good shot at the title. Either way, his biggest hurdle will likely be Queen. To conclude, I think Mini is one of the underdogs of this tournament, but I wouldn't put his chances at the absolute bottom.

Best: If he beats Mini, he'll also likely face Queen. I see him doing a little better than Mini would, but still as the underdog. Otherwise I think he's pretty much in the same shoes as Mini.

JyJ: Underdog to Queen, but can make it into the semis. I'd certainly advise people not to underestimate him, he's shown surprisingly good results. We'll see if he can utilize his skills well in his toughest match yet. If he does move on to the semis, he can also make it into the finals, and then again I don't see why he can't win the whole thing. He's a bit like Larva in that regard, he can defeat anyone. But who knows what his nerves will do to him.

Queen: The other favorite to make it into the finals. If he beats JyJ, I'd put his chances of beating Best or Mini at over 80%. I can't say whether he'd prefer to go up against Rush or rather Larva, but I think those two are his main foes.

What I think the chances at getting 1st are, from most to least likely:
1: Queen/Rush
2: JyJ/Larva
3: Snow
4: Best/Mini
5: herO
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
May 07 2021 23:02 GMT
#34
I would favour Mini over Best against Queen.

Mini has beaten Queen in a best of 5 in the past (long time ago though), and did beat him in a best of 3 in the group stage. I think he has always been fairly good at pvz, whereas Best is more noted more pvt.

Also, apparently Mini is 14-3 or something against Best in recent sponmatch stuff.
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
May 08 2021 22:07 GMT
#35
On May 05 2021 00:11 oxKnu wrote:
If you don't want to get spoiled, don't browse the place that is incredibly likely to be talking about it right after the event.

This post came straight to me on twitter with the spoilers
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
May 09 2021 04:37 GMT
#36
Best > Mini
Best > Zero
Best > The Finals

Go Best!
May the BeSt man win.
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