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ASTL3 + ASL12 confirmed for 2021

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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2107 Posts
April 23 2021 07:44 GMT
#1


AfreecaTV release youtube video outlining 2021 esports programming.



AfreecaTV have confirmed rumours that their 2021 programming would include two seasons of ASL (AfreecaTV StarLeague) and ASTL (AfreecaTV StarCraft Team League) each. With ASTL2 wrapping up in February and ASL11's round-of-16 starting this coming Sunday the assumption stands ASTL3 should commence come summertime with ASL12 following not long after. The ASTL returns 'by popular request', hinting at an existing demand for professional, team-based Brood War competition.

AfreecaTV run 16 separate leagues across 11 esports titles. The video also suggest the BJ Destruction series will likewise return this year in an updated format, although no concrete info on the StarCraft leg of the exhibition has been divulged just yet.

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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1772 Posts
April 23 2021 07:48 GMT
#2
Youpi
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 23 2021 08:09 GMT
#3
As much as I enjoyed ASTL, I hope I'm not going to wait like half a year for next ASL. It could've been ever better if we got 3 ASLs per year instead of 2 just like GSL.
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-23 08:16:21
April 23 2021 08:16 GMT
#4
Cool, they should have one 2v2 set though included in the ASTL.

Feels strange to not have that in a team league.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4289 Posts
April 23 2021 08:19 GMT
#5
HAPPY DAYS!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4289 Posts
April 23 2021 08:20 GMT
#6
On April 23 2021 17:16 oxKnu wrote:
Cool, they should have one 2v2 set though included in the ASTL.

Feels strange to not have that in a team league.

100% agree.
rtomic
Profile Joined September 2015
40 Posts
April 23 2021 08:29 GMT
#7
ASLenglish patreon counts also for ASL12 and finally english cast of ASTL?
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
April 23 2021 08:59 GMT
#8
What are those 11 titles? That's a lot.

Great to have team leagues hope they can keep them intact from "s2" so we get some continuity.
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9559 Posts
April 23 2021 12:20 GMT
#9
Wohoo! That's a lot of BW in 2021. Hopefully the trend continues in years to come.
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Sokokrey
Profile Joined January 2018
74 Posts
April 23 2021 13:12 GMT
#10
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12057 Posts
April 23 2021 13:40 GMT
#11
On April 23 2021 17:16 oxKnu wrote:
Cool, they should have one 2v2 set though included in the ASTL.

Feels strange to not have that in a team league.


2v2 hasn't been really used in proleague style tournaments since something like 2007 I believe. It's not very well balanced and especially given they always seem to use hunters in Korea it's also very rare the games are even good. I'd rather they didn't add it, but that's just my opinion.
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JohnnyBlaze420
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia820 Posts
April 23 2021 13:41 GMT
#12
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8709 Posts
April 23 2021 16:02 GMT
#13
On April 23 2021 22:40 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2021 17:16 oxKnu wrote:
Cool, they should have one 2v2 set though included in the ASTL.

Feels strange to not have that in a team league.


2v2 hasn't been really used in proleague style tournaments since something like 2007 I believe. It's not very well balanced and especially given they always seem to use hunters in Korea it's also very rare the games are even good. I'd rather they didn't add it, but that's just my opinion.


Didn't they have 2v2 and 3v3 one season and it was utterly boring most of the times?
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
April 23 2021 17:14 GMT
#14
Great news, I just started to follow Broodwar again! But is it just me or has the level of play dropped quite a bit compared to the old Kespa days? Or maybe I have just forgotton how hard it is to play Broodwar...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8709 Posts
April 23 2021 20:12 GMT
#15
On April 24 2021 02:14 marcesr wrote:
Great news, I just started to follow Broodwar again! But is it just me or has the level of play dropped quite a bit compared to the old Kespa days? Or maybe I have just forgotton how hard it is to play Broodwar...


Mechanical level of play has dropped (obviously with much less strict training regime, coaches etc.), stragies, tricks micro etc. have evolved.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
April 23 2021 20:55 GMT
#16
On April 23 2021 17:29 rtomic wrote:
ASLenglish patreon counts also for ASL12 and finally english cast of ASTL?


The stretch goal for ASL12 was reached. They have hinted at doing more stuff than ASL. Pretty sure ASTL is on top of that list.
t2azor
Profile Joined April 2017
32 Posts
April 23 2021 21:31 GMT
#17
They need 4v4 team melee
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 23 2021 23:16 GMT
#18
Great news! More ASL is always a good thing. As for ASTL, I was hoping that they would leave the teams from ASTL1 and have players move around based on whatever metric they could come up with then you would get a nice team league and a feeling of continuity rather than random-ish groups each ASTL.

On April 24 2021 05:12 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2021 02:14 marcesr wrote:
Great news, I just started to follow Broodwar again! But is it just me or has the level of play dropped quite a bit compared to the old Kespa days? Or maybe I have just forgotton how hard it is to play Broodwar...


Mechanical level of play has dropped (obviously with much less strict training regime, coaches etc.), stragies, tricks micro etc. have evolved.

Tbf, there are some exceptions to this like when some players decided to play hardcore like Last during KSL1 where he turned off his stream to practice in secret. Then there was piano who was doing 12+ hour of games when he first started streaming. To add on, I think reaction time was the thing that suffered the most. I recall games in the kespa era where players would almost instantly react to some form of aggression while it varies these days (some are still amazing at it while others aren't). It's an interesting topic to debate and we still get to see games that rival the kespa days. The Flash vs Snow series in ASL5 for example or Snow vs Larva game 2 on Polypoid several ASLs back.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
April 24 2021 06:29 GMT
#19
i echo the sentiment that there needs to be some form of team continuity for ASTL. all the shuffling every league just makes it random and difficult to support.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4289 Posts
April 24 2021 08:50 GMT
#20
On April 24 2021 15:29 ggsimida wrote:
i echo the sentiment that there needs to be some form of team continuity for ASTL. all the shuffling every league just makes it random and difficult to support.

that would be great, yeah
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