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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
April 18 2021 11:44 GMT
#1
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
April 18 2021 11:53 GMT
#2
Thank you Ziggy ! Zero should make it first and after him Mini or Mong. The rest of the groups are tough to call...
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TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
April 18 2021 11:55 GMT
#3
Groups B through D are really stacked. Hype!
WriterReV hwaiting!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
April 18 2021 12:09 GMT
#4
These are hard to call (for me).

Group A: Zero, Mini
Group B: soma, Best
Group C: Bisu, Snow
Group D: Royal, Light

I think of those two picks at least one should make it out of each group. A lot can happen though, it's nice to have 4 groups without 2 clear favourites this time.
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1087 Posts
April 18 2021 12:09 GMT
#5
ZerO // Mini
soma // Best
SnOw // Larva
sOrry // Rush
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
April 18 2021 12:16 GMT
#6
A: Zero+Shuttle
B: Soma +Jyj
C: Bisu + Effort
D: Light + Hero
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Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland734 Posts
April 18 2021 12:17 GMT
#7
A: Zero Mini
B: soma Best
C: Larva Effort
D: Rush Light
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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 12:21:40
April 18 2021 12:21 GMT
#8
A: Queen, Mini
B: Soma, Best
C: Bisu, Larva
D: Rush, Light

These were quite easy actually.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
April 18 2021 12:54 GMT
#9
D is pretty hard, I think sorry has great TvT
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
April 18 2021 13:36 GMT
#10
It will be nice to see an upset on group D and hero to qualify

He only has one match to prepare - versus terran !
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
April 18 2021 14:05 GMT
#11
group C is absolutely nuts.. geez.. hope for some awesome games!

HYPE
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 18 2021 14:09 GMT
#12
Group A: Mong, Mini
Group B: soma, Best
Group C: Bisu, effort
Group D: Rush, Light
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-18 14:21:35
April 18 2021 14:21 GMT
#13
Group C group of death!!!

Hope bisu survives...

Too bad flash won't be around
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Sonic_md
Profile Joined March 2020
Moldova275 Posts
April 18 2021 15:15 GMT
#14
Queen/Mong
Sharp/Best
Larva/Snow
Rush/Royal
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earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
April 18 2021 15:53 GMT
#15
damn Group C is so legend! really looking forward to see the matches
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10233 Posts
April 18 2021 16:00 GMT
#16
What the group C holy shit.

Zero/Mini
Soma/Best
Snow/Bisu
Rush/Sorry
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andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
April 18 2021 16:32 GMT
#17
What map will be first?
Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
April 18 2021 16:55 GMT
#18
Group A: Queen Shuttle
Group B: Soma Sharp
Group C: Bisu Snow
Group D: Rush Light
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
April 18 2021 17:24 GMT
#19
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
April 18 2021 17:33 GMT
#20
Group C is going to be fire. can't wait
blabberrrrr
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 18 2021 17:52 GMT
#21
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
April 18 2021 18:30 GMT
#22
Group C is especially brutal, but these are all honestly really difficult groups. Even Group A will likely be tough—Mong is really solid and Mini and Shuttle are inconsistent but sometimes brilliant. While it's hard to see Queen not getting out, the battle for second should be intense.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
April 18 2021 19:23 GMT
#23
On April 19 2021 02:52 oEkY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?

if he's from Romania, then I think he's Eastern Orthodox. They have a different calendar from Roman Catholics and Protestants. I think that's why
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
April 18 2021 19:48 GMT
#24
On April 19 2021 04:23 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 02:52 oEkY wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?

if he's from Romania, then I think he's Eastern Orthodox. They have a different calendar from Roman Catholics and Protestants. I think that's why

Yes,correct! The Orthodox Easter is on 2 may !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4225 Posts
April 18 2021 19:55 GMT
#25
On April 19 2021 04:48 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 04:23 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:52 oEkY wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?

if he's from Romania, then I think he's Eastern Orthodox. They have a different calendar from Roman Catholics and Protestants. I think that's why

Yes,correct! The Orthodox Easter is on 2 may !

Cheers!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
April 18 2021 20:09 GMT
#26
On April 19 2021 04:23 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 02:52 oEkY wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?

if he's from Romania, then I think he's Eastern Orthodox. They have a different calendar from Roman Catholics and Protestants. I think that's why


Wow, thx for the info, i guess im pretty ignorant, never heard of this difference tbh :O
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain351 Posts
April 18 2021 20:20 GMT
#27
Group A: Queen, Mini
Group B: soma, Best
Group C: Larva, SnOw
Group D: Rush, Light
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8493 Posts
April 18 2021 20:31 GMT
#28
On April 19 2021 04:55 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2021 04:48 prosatan wrote:
On April 19 2021 04:23 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:52 oEkY wrote:
On April 19 2021 02:24 prosatan wrote:
Just noticed that group C (the group of death!) is on Easter Day
Go go Bisu !


What the...? Easter was 2 weeks ago (at least in germany)?! Do u have some special kind of easter day in your country?

if he's from Romania, then I think he's Eastern Orthodox. They have a different calendar from Roman Catholics and Protestants. I think that's why

Yes,correct! The Orthodox Easter is on 2 may !

Cheers!

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
April 18 2021 21:04 GMT
#29
A Queen+Mini
B Soma+Best
C Effort+Bisu
D Light+herO
Improvement
Profile Joined March 2003
203 Posts
April 18 2021 21:22 GMT
#30
Group A: Queen Mini
Group B: Soma Best
Group C: Bisu effOrt
Group D: Rush Light
Hmm
lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
April 18 2021 21:26 GMT
#31
anyone watched it live? why did Hero chose light, i wonder... Protoss would make his life much easier, i think. Is he that great with ZvT atm? does not look like. Is he having a grudge against light? :D
So... BW is back
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 18 2021 22:11 GMT
#32
IMO Group C beats all of them and most hyped. Bisu should get out if he wants to prove he isn't washed up yet.
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Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
April 18 2021 22:28 GMT
#33
On April 19 2021 06:26 lamarine wrote:
anyone watched it live? why did Hero chose light, i wonder... Protoss would make his life much easier, i think. Is he that great with ZvT atm? does not look like. Is he having a grudge against light? :D


Light is usually susceptible to cheese/tournament builds. Here's to hoping he, Bisu, and Mini can avoid choking this time.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
April 19 2021 03:49 GMT
#34
C is for Death
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
April 19 2021 05:32 GMT
#35
Ye... Might actually tune in for some Z/P action with such a stacked group.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
April 19 2021 07:31 GMT
#36
That's about the worst draw Snow could've hoped for. Don't like his chances of advancing. Conversely, Best has to be pretty pleased with only 1 Zerg.

A: Queen/Shuttle
B: Soma/Best
C: Larva/Effort
D: Light and Royal
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden531 Posts
April 19 2021 07:40 GMT
#37
A: Queen & Mini
B: Best & Sharp
C: Effort & Snow
D: Light & herO
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-19 08:13:26
April 19 2021 08:12 GMT
#38
On April 18 2021 20:55 TaardadAiel wrote:
Groups B through D are really stacked. Hype!

I find that a really strange thing to say considering group C is the most insane of all imo. If you're going to say group B and D are stacked then how is A not as stacked?
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1087 Posts
April 19 2021 08:23 GMT
#39
On April 19 2021 17:12 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2021 20:55 TaardadAiel wrote:
Groups B through D are really stacked. Hype!

I find that a really strange thing to say considering group C is the most insane of all imo. If you're going to say group B and D are stacked then how is A not as stacked?


I got this one guys
It is because A is not as stacked
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LfunkGG
Profile Joined February 2019
78 Posts
April 19 2021 08:30 GMT
#40
b should have cool games
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1240 Posts
April 19 2021 09:59 GMT
#41
People are way over-hyping this group C.

Bisu eats Zerg for breakfast, especially Larva and Effort.

Snow is imo at his lowest when it comes to form that I've ever seen him. Plus he still remains very vulnerable against Zerg in tournament settings, even more so than Best.

Effort has been in dire form ever since he came back from military and to be honest he hasn't shown any significant signs of returning to form anything soon. At times he has looked worse than Jaedong did in the first couple of years of Remastered.

Larva is probably the only one that has been playing consistently well out of anyone here but tbh all of the machups are bad for him. (ZvZ is volatile. while he has always done extremely poorly against Bisu, no matter his form).

B and D are definitely more balanced than this group.
andertalets77
Profile Joined February 2019
143 Posts
April 19 2021 16:37 GMT
#42
What map will be first ro16?
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
April 19 2021 17:29 GMT
#43
Mini//Zero
Best//JyJ
Larva//Snow
Rush//Light
:-)
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic937 Posts
April 20 2021 12:49 GMT
#44
On April 19 2021 06:26 lamarine wrote:
anyone watched it live? why did Hero chose light, i wonder... Protoss would make his life much easier, i think. Is he that great with ZvT atm? does not look like. Is he having a grudge against light? :D


Light was the last player left and D was last place he could go. So it was actually Effort who dediced that, because he has to choose either Light or Snow and leaving one to go against Hero.
never too old for starcraft :)
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