EPTBut also really looks bad for ASL when one of the best players in the world feels like they can make more money by not participating in the tournament :\ . Definitely not a good sign for the healthiness of the scene when one of the best players thinks/knows they will lose money by only making the Ro8 of the biggest possible tournament that there is.
Soulkey's Situation + ASL nonparticipation - Page 3
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Ideas
United States8114 Posts
But also really looks bad for ASL when one of the best players in the world feels like they can make more money by not participating in the tournament :\ . Definitely not a good sign for the healthiness of the scene when one of the best players thinks/knows they will lose money by only making the Ro8 of the biggest possible tournament that there is. | ||
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Jealous
10168 Posts
On March 20 2021 02:19 Ideas wrote: Really shitty situation for SK obviously, hopefully he can find relief soon. But also really looks bad for ASL when one of the best players in the world feels like they can make more money by not participating in the tournament :\ . Definitely not a good sign for the healthiness of the scene when one of the best players thinks/knows they will lose money by only making the Ro8 of the biggest possible tournament that there is. It's more a statement on the success they have while streaming and the losses they incur when they have to prepare for said tournament, than it is about the payout for a Ro8 placement. How many other videogame tournaments pay out $2000 for an 8th place finish? Maybe like 10% of them at most? Not many, either way. Most tournaments are very top-heavy in their prize distribution and I don't think that is necessarily wrong. On top of that, would you rather play two Bo3s against someone who is most likely a stone's throw away from your skill, and only if you win both do you get $2000, or would you prefer to stream 8 hours a day/participate in sponmatches for 2 weeks and make $2000 guaranteed? As the saying goes, bird in hand vs. two in the bush. As such, I also think it's more a reflection of SK having to be responsible and not gamble with his ROI in terms of time in his current predicament. Really don't think Afreeca is to blame for anything here. | ||
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
On March 19 2021 13:33 GTR wrote: for whatever reason a lot of korean pros get blindsided by financial fraud (primarily because they let their parents handle their finances and they fall into traps). there was another notable pro who's parents got caught in a financial scam and lost all of their son's earnings but i forgot who it was. edit: it was nada who lost 700k in the stock market https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/503190-nada-reveals-his-5-yr-old-daughter https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/511860-light-interview-translation Or do you mean Light who was scammed by his mother... | ||
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IntoTheStorm
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staatbauhaus
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A scammer would come along donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to gain the trust of Bj's while selling the illusion of being a mega wealthy individual. After time passes building a relationship with the bj's, the scammer would approach with a way to make money and the bj would trust the scammer seeing how they would donate six figures like it's nothing. And boom scammer takes everyone's money and disappears. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3424 Posts
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marwin
Ukraine110 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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GTR
51475 Posts
On March 20 2021 03:59 whaski wrote: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/511860-light-interview-translation Or do you mean Light who was scammed by his mother... that was the one i was initially thinking of actually. but yeah, initial point stands - korean's love getting scammed. | ||
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MinixTheNerd
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ZAWGURN
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RowdierBob
Australia13038 Posts
On March 19 2021 22:29 Chosi wrote: I am pretty sure the signature is NOT the piece that was forged, otherwise Soulkey would not be invovled in all of this. Assume that he signed a contract for a very good deal with some fine print that says in case the dealer goes bankrupt you are second in line to pay the bills, probably concealed in legal mumbo jumbo. Maybe that language was not even in the contract but is implicit by Korean law. Also the guesstimated amount could be one big ass car plus legal fees? There are plenty of very plausible scenarios in which all Soulkey did "wrong" was doing business with shady people and not being on the side of caution with a "too good" deal. Or they simply missed something in the fine print that we all may have missed. This is what I think may have happened. I suspect SK was coerced into signing something and he didn't fully understand the terms of the contract meaning when it went belly up, he was the one left holding the bag. | ||
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keaneu
Korea (South)65 Posts
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itsdaniel
Austria334 Posts
On March 19 2021 13:33 GTR wrote: for whatever reason a lot of korean pros get blindsided by financial fraud (primarily because they let their parents handle their finances and they fall into traps). there was another notable pro who's parents got caught in a financial scam and lost all of their son's earnings but i forgot who it was. edit: it was nada who lost 700k in the stock market https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/503190-nada-reveals-his-5-yr-old-daughter afaik Stork got also scammed for a large amount of cash, it was so bad at one point he was suicidal.... | ||
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Xeln4g4
Italy1209 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4200 Posts
what a terrible situation to be in ;/ | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
It must work like this over there also. If not suicide rates must be skyhigh. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On March 21 2021 03:33 M3t4PhYzX wrote: go the DSP's route and go for bankruptcy at this point.. what a terrible situation to be in ;/ This crossed my mind too. Maybe bankruptcies are not allowed under these circumstances. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
On March 19 2021 08:51 Jealous wrote: Jesus, what is it with streamers always getting scammed or scamming? Is this common in Korea, or are they just particularly easy targets given the nature of their job, or possibly upbringing (proteam houses, have to play BW all day, etc.)? I think we know the answer. Streaming/progaming is not a stable career, plus we all know money can swing wildly in streaming. There's the feeling to "get on top while you can" that lets people fall for scams. It happens in every industry where young people quickly get into some amount of money (even if it is not much money), korean programers maybe even more as most of them werent rich by any means but had a teamhouse of some sort without much living expenses, so if they made even a little bit of money it felt like a lot more than they actually had. | ||
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